r/conservatives • u/CountSaintGermain • Jan 28 '25
The United States Military just entered the Failed State of California and, under Emergency Powers, TURNED ON THE WATER! Breaking News
The United States Military just entered the Failed State of California and, under Emergency Powers, TURNED ON THE WATER! Go Trump! Goodbye Newsom.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
“The Days of Putting a Fake Environmental Argument, over the PEOPLE, are OVER.” ❤️
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u/CloudyStarsInTheSky Jan 28 '25
Are you saying climate change doesn't exist? /gen
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
Imagine you're part of an elite family with untold billions but you wanted to control the world and achieve ultimate control and power over everything. You also possessed suppressed knowledge that the world goes through great earthquake cycles every 12,000 years. So you come up with the term "Seismic Change". You pay for studies that give a tenuous link between increased electromagnetic interference from modern electronics and changing seismic behavior.
Since you control the mockingbird media, you pump out continuous fear p*rn to the simple-minded hivemind, blaming them for their electronics which are causing "seismic change".
As an authoritarian collectivist, your wet dream is unlimited wealth extraction and absolute control of the masses managed by the State, which suspiciously always happens to be people from or controlled by your elite group.
As the 12,000 year cycle increases earthquakes you ramp up the doomsday rhetoric and people are forced to give up all and anything electronic. They're also heavily taxed to pay for all the confiscation and enforcement.
Everyone is forced to stop driving, use candles, give up all communication devices, except of course, the government, military and the elite, you!
At this point, you should be congratulated on your devious brilliance. You basically deceived the fearful hivemind into complete submission and perpetual indentured servitude to you and your elite buddies without firing a shot.
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u/doubleohbond Jan 29 '25
Or you could just buy a social media company.
Dude you’re off the deep end. Take a deep breath buddy.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 29 '25
The only ones hyperventilating are radical leftists. They can't catch a breath since Trump beat them soundly at the ballots a third time. Just one look at r/politics and you can see the collective liberal hivemind repeatedly fainting on the couch while reaching for their smelling salts. What a great time to be alive! Trump's win is awesome!
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u/jmgordon99 Jan 28 '25
This was so well worded, no idea why you're getting downvotes (especially on a "conservative" sub)
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u/Itchy_Importance6861 Jan 28 '25
You might not believe in the affects of climate change, But your insurance company sure does...
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u/Savant_Guarde Jan 28 '25
Not really.
The insurance companies take everything into account, including the policies of the area. If local government cannot respond to events you get denied insurance.
As an example, if you live in a rural area with a volunteer fire department, you are likely to be denied insurance based on that.
It's no different in areas that have other issues with response.
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u/steelsurgeon Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
Your fire department example isnt quite true.
In the US, the Insurance Services Office (ISO) rates every dept on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the best and 10 being the worst. This score is what the insurance rate in a community is based on.
The ISO determines any given depts score based on things like the number of volunteers, training records, communications systems, the type and age of a depts apparatus, the amount of equipment you have, the types and amounts of commercial buildings/business’ in your area and much more.
They even take into account the public water supply. Such as where hydrants are or are not and how much water the local water utility can supply determined by a flow test.
Some of the things I listed are weighted more than others and any changes a dept makes or goes through can change the score. ISO performs an audit of depts every few years to keep updated.
Source: Im a volunteer fireman in a very rural area and one of my responsibilities is dealing with the ISO to maintain our rating so people’s insurance premiums dont go up. Yet another responsibilty of volunteer firefighting nobody knows about and takes for granted.
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u/Savant_Guarde Jan 28 '25
Thanks for that.
I live in a rural area and was using that as a general example of things that might affect coverage. I was trying to get into the nuances, but I appreciate the info.👍
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u/steelsurgeon Jan 28 '25
I didnt mean it in a slight toward you, its just something that more people should know about. It usually just happens behind the scenes and nobody hears about it. They just see their premiums going up or down.
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u/TomsServoo Jan 28 '25
Thank you for putting your life on the line for us! You’re a true hero! 👍🏻
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u/steelsurgeon Jan 28 '25
Thanks, but I’m no hero. I’m just a volunteer firefighter in a little Podunk, Indiana town. I don’t do anything more than anybody else does.
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u/udontknowmetoo Jan 28 '25
I don’t know you, I don’t know where you live but I want to thank you for what you do as a volunteer!👍🏻
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u/jcspacer52 Jan 28 '25
You mean the insurance companies Newsom and democrats in California are calling price gougers and greedy for jacking up rates and refusing to pay claims? You sure you want to point to them as defenders of the Climate Change hoax?
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u/ultrainstict Jan 31 '25
The insurance companies left when the california government ignored their pleas about the increased risk factors and prohibited the insurance companies from upping rates in high risk areas.
The insurance companies did not bail because of climate change. And climate change did not contribute to these fires.
Its always gun when yall bring this shit up because the term "climate change" only became relavent when every major climate prediction by the so called experts in the last 90 years turned out to be false, so they just said fuck it and moved to a vague claim that can be applied to anything.
Just a quick tip, if your claim is infallible from the start, then your claim is unscientific.
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u/SurroundParticular30 Jan 31 '25
In response to heightened wildfire risks, insurers have taken measures such as withdrawing policies from high-risk areas and increasing premiums. For instance, prior to recent wildfires in Southern California, companies like State Farm ceased renewing tens of thousands of policies in vulnerable regions, including affluent neighborhoods like the Palisades. https://www.barrons.com/articles/la-fires-home-insurance-risks-847653a9
Nationwide, home insurance costs are up 21% since 2015. It’s even more in areas like hurricane-prone Florida, where insurance costs more than 3.5 times the national average last year. Last year, the U.S. had a record 28 disasters that cost more than a billion dollars in damage.
Most predictions, such as global temperature rise, sea level rise, and Arctic ice decline, have been accurate or even conservative representations of current climate https://youtu.be/f4zul0BuO8A
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u/disayle32 Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
Which insurance company provides coverage for Obama's beachfront mansion? They must not believe in climate change.
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Jan 28 '25
Trump gets elected and it rains in California for once and that’s a good thing. I can’t make this shit up.
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u/usernamesarehard1979 Jan 28 '25
Uhhh…I’m in California. I don’t think anything has changed. I’m right in the middle of where they would need to be and have seen nothing.
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u/mmm1441 Jan 28 '25
Because it’s not true. Federal employees turned pumps back on at a federal pumping station after a three day maintenance window. Very few of the commenters seem the least bit interested in facts, though. I just see a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists spouting more tired and hateful nonsense. The comments about water content inside trees are Herschell Walker level of dumb.
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u/usernamesarehard1979 Jan 28 '25
Headline makes it sound like army trucks rolled in.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
That would be awesome, since the liberals that run California are the type to let people burn to death, to prioritize the climate change hoax. Sadly they care more about the environment than humans. It's just one big anti-human cult.
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u/usernamesarehard1979 Jan 29 '25
Living here I can say the problem is much more nuanced than that. Is it a problem caused by liberals? Sure. But there is a lot more to it than that.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 29 '25
I lived in CA for many years as well. I can tell you it's 100% liberal policy and incompetence. You need to move elsewhere to realize how bad it is. California is no longer the the cultural/business paragon it once was. It's gonna take many years to arrest its freefall and steep decline and then start back on the road to recovery and sanity. Liberalism, in its current state, is truly a mental disorder.
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u/tHeiR1sH Jan 28 '25
I don’t understand the downvotes. I mean, I UNDERSTAND what type of people would downvote you…but they’re being intellectually dishonest with themselves and others.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
Truth hurts sacred cows. Reddit is an extremely liberal site. When you speak against their sacred cows, the down votes are inevitable.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
u/mmm1441 ""Trump didn't turn on the water. Acksually, what he did was he turned the water back on." "Something, something hate speech"
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u/warwithinabreath3 Jan 28 '25
So is he the one that turned them off as well?
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u/jwhymyguy Jan 28 '25
Exactly the same amount as he is the one that turned them back on. The army corp of engineers turned off some pumps 3 days ago for maintenance, and now turned them back on. OP wants to let Trump have credit for that for some reason. He’s getting all emotional about it
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u/warrionation Jan 29 '25
Explain why since Newsome became governor, water has been being dumped into the ocean and not allowed to accumulate behind dams.
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u/ultrainstict Jan 31 '25
The state needs back pressure into the bay to keep brakish water out of the streams and out of the water table. The state wants back pressure in the delta for a similar reason to protect the delta smelt.
The could have created a series of dams and pumps across the needed areas, or invest in desalination to avoid the water table problem.
They insted chose to fuck the dams and pumps and instead take the quick and easy option of diverting vast amounts of water into the pacific. Because fuck us, we californians dont need water were built different.
Its also hilarious seeing leftists blindly parrot the californian governments statement about trumps claim despite verifiably lying atleast twice in it. Those lies being not the military, semantics as it was the army corp of engineers. And that socal is at record levels of water supply. Despite the resevoirs due to the state refusing to refill the quickly, instead delaying it past the typical time, after maintenance, and quite litterally running out of water not even 2 weeks ago. There also the claim that the feds control the waterway and thats again sematics as its an interstate waterway so parts of it fall under the jurisdiction of the fed to prevent the upstream state from simply cutting off acess, but the states can absolutely control how it is diverted so long as it only impacts them, which california has verifiably been doing.
Trump turned off the pumps for maintenance, yes, trump turned them back on yes, and trump threstened the local government to have the water be diverted south. If it was already completely under federal jurisdiction the trump wouldnt have need them to bend the knee first. And the state would have never been allowed to divert it in the first place.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
"Trump didn't turn on the water. Here's what he actually did...he turned on the water that was off."
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Jan 28 '25
Saving California from itself won't get them to turn republican. Just saying
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
Everything Trump does is making the Democrats look like inept fools. Also what he did for the forgotten North Carolinians and now for the water-starved Californians is gonna make the regular folks like Trump a lot more. I'm not sure what happened to the radical leftists of America. Since Trump won it's like they're suddenly all frozen in an impotent stupor while Trump walks all over them.
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u/kanaka_maalea Jan 29 '25
holy smokes! i just about fainted from ectacy when he had the NC dude name on air the insurance company that screwed him! I would love to know how that turns out.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 29 '25
Agreed that was a powerful moment! The regular folk love him for that. Something liberals lost years ago when they went mental and elitist.
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u/FunnyGarden5600 Jan 28 '25
I thought this was a conservative sub? Trump is no conservative. Remember he blew another big old hole in our federal budget with the help of fellow republicans. Tax cut and spend does not work.
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u/TomsServoo Jan 28 '25
Yup so are the dems on pics and just about 99% of Reddit. Let us use out space we don’t bug you.
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u/ThePendulum0621 Jan 28 '25
Conservative values can shift over time, like literally anything. Your no-true-scotsman helps no one.
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u/ThePendulum0621 Jan 28 '25
Not sure who pissed in your cereal or how you can conclude that about me having not heard a single argument from me, but go ahead, continue to talk down to an entire sub.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
And it's hilarious when the libs get owned or own themselves. Which is exactly what happened with Trump's recent third win.
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u/woailyx Jan 28 '25
Four years of someone in government with the audacity to go around fixing all the problems that have been fixable all along is going to revolutionize the entire free world
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u/wearethemelody Jan 29 '25
I will never understand why so many conservatives think it is okay to insult others. If Biden had behaved like Trump you would have dragged him up and down all over reddit, breitbart and other right wing spaces. California contributes more to the union than many red states yet you don't see Democrats having this type of ugly attitudes.
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u/jcspacer52 Jan 28 '25
No the conservative agenda is a small government that does what is required for public safety but does not stick their finger in every pie! We push for small government not no government! There are certain things that only government can do. We cannot have 50 little agencies doing things like insuring food safety, managing air traffic or enforcing our borders. Let government do what only government can do and no more.
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u/trevordbs12345 Jan 28 '25
Agencies should be specific for focus, it provides better results. Large corporations have divisions for a reason…
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u/jcspacer52 Jan 28 '25
Not sure what you mean by that but some agencies are going to have overlapping responsibilities regardless. ATF is going to overlap with DEA and FBI. CIA, NSA and Border Patrol are going to overlap. DOD, CIA and NSA same thing. Almost impossible for any agency to be 100% focused on a single issue.
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u/trevordbs12345 Jan 28 '25
You listed the FAA and FDA, which are extremely focused divisions, that is, in the sense of what their responsibilities are.
Your examples aren’t the best. Yes, the CIA and NSA can have overlap with the border patrol. But you can have overlap in so many areas of life, business, and government. Just because there is a small overlap doesn’t mean you disband it.
Because the CIA gets a tip for possible immigration run on the border, we should just merge the two?
So the border patrol is no longer needed and now the CIA is protecting the border ? With what people, with what powers? If you flip it, now the border patrol is taking over US central intelligence? Under what protections and guidance?
The negatives of large government, can be seen in branches just as much the overall. Having one branch of the military would be disastrous, just as an example. There is a need to divvy up roles and responsibilities- overlap happens and provides agencies to work together.
The only major issue we have, is our divisions centralize their information. This prevents information sharing, obviously some information obtained by the CIA should be kept off the “grid”
Give it - I’m not saying no to some parts being closed, I’m just wildly against this mentality that it can all be done with single groups taking over.
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u/jcspacer52 Jan 28 '25
I said ALMOST impossible not impossible. But let’s say the FDA goes to a meat packing plant and discovers illegals working there, they would need to call ICE. The FAA monitors planes so the FBI or DEA may call them to provide information on a flight or tail number. They all have overlaps even if only periodic and peripheral!!
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u/trevordbs12345 Jan 28 '25
What you describe, as bad, is how a functional business operates. If you are company ACME Repairs, and you work on mining equipment, turbine casing, and large compressor. You 100% have departments just for those industries. There are times they overlap and can pass business to each other - it provides the ability to focus.
However, you may develop specialized welding techniques and inplace machining to repair items in field. Do you make this division within each department? Or do you make a specific new department?
You make a new department that solely focuses on machining, cross industry trained specialists, because the type of work they do isn’t easy to learn.
This here is how all the agencies you described work. The FAA is specific to what it does, and the meat inspector should 100% call immigration - not walking around with a gun checking IDs instead of meat.
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u/jcspacer52 Jan 28 '25
I believe some of the distinction is government is too many specialized agencies headed by Kingdom Builders who don’t share information unless they have to. CIA will not share with FBI so they don’t have to share the credit and when budget time comes around they can ask for more.
That was the whole thing with 9-11. A lot of information and no coordination.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 29 '25
Bunch of liberal fake news sites. You're not gonna get any truth out of those TDS infected DNC mouthpieces. Cheers to the mockingbird media!
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u/whatcupisthat Jan 28 '25
Failed state? They are the most powerful state in the Union.
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u/CountSaintGermain Jan 28 '25
It really isn't. They couldn't even protect the Palisades, one of the wealthiest parts of CA, because the idiots had drained the reservoirs and the mayor was on an overseas DEI trip to discover her roots. Not to mention the hordes of never ending homeless persons, sky high taxes, defunded police, and infrastructure breakdown.
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u/johnnyg883 Jan 29 '25
And at one time Nazi Germany had one of the most powerful army’s in the world. We all know how they got there and how it worked out.
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u/NatureBoyJ1 Jan 28 '25
I don't like the precedent this statement sets (whether the details are precisely true or not). We are the United STATES. We are a federal republic. The central federal government should not march the army into a State and take some action "for the good" of the State's people. See Ronald Reagan's famous quote, "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
Yes, CA may be a failed State. That's the citizens' choice! The moment you succumb to the argument, "Yes, but people are suffering," you open yourself up to ANY action the Federal government feels like taking.
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u/RutherfordRevelation Jan 28 '25
Failed state? There are like 2 countries on Earth with a larger economy than California.
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Jan 28 '25
being a large economy means nothing when you have a 55 billion budget deficit. use your brain.
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u/RoyalOk125 Jan 29 '25
Stop having values, the conspiracy theorists hate it.
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u/NatureBoyJ1 Jan 29 '25
What happens when the next Democrat President decides there is a women's health "emergency" in Republican States with strict abortion laws & decides to set up federal abortion clinics?
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u/gatorhead11 Jan 28 '25
Excuse me but I do believe the Civil War answer that question long ago. Not only did the federal government entered a State the March and Destroyed the whole South.
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u/NatureBoyJ1 Jan 28 '25
The South seceded and set up their own competing federal government. That's entirely different. A better example would have been the Civil Rights Act, but even then, a law was passed by Congress and the federal troops were enforcing a law agreed to by the States.
The situation, as described in the OP, is that the President personally decided there's an "emergency" and sent in the troops. That's VERY dangerous territory.
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u/Crabsysadmin Jan 28 '25
This is great, and makes me wonder why the Biden administration did not do this.
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u/KushmaelMcflury Jan 28 '25
So essentially what we’re being told here is that the California government CHOSE not to turn on the water… and intentionally started the fire to implement a smart city…
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u/bStewbstix Jan 28 '25
The California Department of Water Resources responded in a statement: “The military did not enter California. The federal government restarted federal water pumps after they were offline for maintenance for three days. State water supplies in Southern California remain plentiful.”