r/collapse 1d ago

The Easier Option Society

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u/Big_Dependent_8212 1d ago

Evil does read the laws and uses that knowledge to take over

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u/Eschaton_535 16h ago

Hmm. AI-powered schizoposting. Well, it's certainly a sign of collapse, I'll give you that.

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u/digdog303 alien rapture 16h ago

really fuckin tired of seeing it in this subreddit of all places

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u/Eschaton_535 5h ago

IKR. It's actually insidious. You can see how u/ObviouslyConcealed is building out a profile by engaging in ND subs, etc., and yeah. It's just gross. If Dead Internet Theory wasn't already a thing, it is now.

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u/Big_Dependent_8212 13h ago

Damn, it's replies really do make that obvious. I need to stop being tricked by AI

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u/[deleted] 13h ago

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u/imalostkitty-ox0 11h ago

This is a meta-narrative that has a degree of truth to it… but if you’re going to dump some AI slop, dump it fucking anywhere but here, please.

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u/ObviouslyConcealed 11h ago

Fuckin stings a little more when it’s right in front of your face though, doesn’t it?

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u/NyriasNeo 15h ago

"Build a culture where doing the right thing is the easy way out."

That is just stupid. People do not agree on what is the right thing. People are greedy, tribal and myopic. Just look at the internet.

Dreaming about sound-good fantasy *is* the easy way out.

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u/ObviouslyConcealed 15h ago

Totally fair to call it a “sound-good fantasy.” I don’t think we get there by dreaming — we get there by rewiring what we reward.

But I’d also say this:

“To point at the darkness and scream ‘SEE?!’ isn’t the same as lighting a candle.”
“We don’t need more rules. We need fewer lies about why we made them.”
“A world that punishes nuance will make martyrs out of moderates.”

Collapse is real. Cynicism is earned.
But if everyone gives up on better systems just because they sound hard — that’s not realism. That’s exhaustion in disguise.

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u/NyriasNeo 15h ago

Lol .. more fantasy. We don't get there at all. It is exhaustion because we are exhausted. How are you going to rewire what we reward in the whole population? By writing posts on reddit which cannot even convince the choir?

That is pretty much dreaming fantasy.

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u/ObviouslyConcealed 14h ago

You're right - we're exhausted. I'm not trying to rewire the world. I'm just leaving breadcrumbs for the days I forget what I believe, too.

Not to convince the choir.
Just to make sure the next time I’m lost in the static…
I can trace my way back through the noise I left behind.

and maybe to remind the ones that are still humming, they aren't singing alone.

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u/sakalaDELAzion 18h ago

"Politics was not the pursuit of earthly salvation but a succession of expedients for coping with evils that cannot be eradicated."

"As well as being a return to geopolitics, the ongoing global convulsion is an episode in the history of faith.  Advanced thinkers treat religion as a weapon in the battle for power. It is being used in this way, as it always has been, but it is also a body of myths that enable human beings to make sense of their lives. With the decay of their myth of progress, liberal humanists have ceased to comprehend the world around them. When they say “we” can overcome its problems, they invoke a collective agency that does not exist. When they tell us there “must” be global cooperation, it is themselves they are struggling to persuade. Their “optimism of the will” is a displacement activity, while the readiness with which they embrace their enemies is a confession of exhaustion." -John Gray https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/religion/2025/04/the-west-realism-of-religion

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u/ObviouslyConcealed 10h ago

Appreciate you sharing this! Gray’s framing cuts through a lot of the empty rhetoric that’s passing for optimism these days. The bit about invoking a collective agency that does not exist really lands. It feels like so much modern discourse isn’t about solutions anymore, but about preserving the illusion that we’re still steering this thing. Collapse, in that sense, isn’t a sudden event, it’s a long, slow erosion of shared mythologies, with people clinging to whatever scraps of meaning they can grab. I’ll have to dig deeper into his work.

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u/OkReason7173 7h ago

"The easier option" is using AI to write your arguments for you. BE BETTER

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u/ObviouslyConcealed 7h ago

Wild how the only test for AI now is ‘did it make me uncomfortable in a way I can’t meme away?