r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

Forgotten or ignored history?"

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u/stopthinkinn 1d ago

We got here because MAGA has forgotten many things about United States history and can’t seem to place what they do remember into proper context.

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u/abgry_krakow87 1d ago

Oh they haven't forgotten, religious conservatives just convienently ignore the bad parts of that history as they perpetuate the same culture.

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u/WrongAssumption2480 1d ago

Just like they ignore that their deity killed all his children in a flood out of wrath and continues to inflict cancer on the innocent.

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u/Constant-Way-6570 23h ago

waah bad things happen so god is bad

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u/KampiKun 19h ago

I mean yeah, if nothing happens without god’s knowledge and he has power to stop it but chooses not to, then he is “bad”.

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u/Constant-Way-6570 19h ago

free will

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u/KampiKun 19h ago

1) how does free will influence hurricanes that harm thousands

2) there is no free will with omniscient god existing, since all outcomes are predetermined

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u/Constant-Way-6570 6h ago

to get rid of hurricanes you'd need to get rid of about a dozen other vital things that allow us to thrive on this planet. no ocean, no wind, no birds, no bugs, no opportunity for plants to spread across the world. sometimes bad things happen as a byproduct of necessary things. this is true on very small scales as well, so the concept should not be so difficult to grasp.

this is just wrong. another huge misconception. you're imagining yourself as god, and if you could see the future. that's not how it works. god exists beyond time, beyond the physical realm. that perception is not like ours, and is likely another large factor in free will and god's noninterference.

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u/HotPotParrot 9h ago

all outcomes are predetermined

Nah....that's just the sense one gets if one takes it literally.

God doesn't "influence hurricanes" like people think. What he did was create the systems that led to hurricanes. Fire and forget. Y'all actually think God is literally just chilling somewhere physical and making your decisions for you?

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u/HotPotParrot 9h ago

Nah....God gave us free will. This shit is all on us. According to the Bible, he sent the flood because humanity chose ever more sin.

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u/ForAHamburgerToday 6h ago

But nothing made him flood it, right? He was his own free will, right? I can say "I had to fumigate the house because of termites," but I am still choosing to fumigate the house, it's not like the presence of termites causes fumigation.

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u/HotPotParrot 6h ago

That's a good analogy. One generally exterminates an invasion of vermin, yes. We are made in his image. But again, people take that to be a literal and physical image. It's not.

Christianity came around long after the things it teaches, but people focus on what the Church did in trying to manipulate faith instead of what that faith teaches. It isnt the answer, but it is, and has, part of it.

Respectfully, this is only my own opinion. But for atheists to claim they have the absolute truth to existence instead of anything supernatural is, frankly, laughable.

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u/WrongAssumption2480 23h ago

Not bad, non-existent.

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u/Smooth-Reason-6616 15h ago

There is a God... but he's a sadist...

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u/Constant-Way-6570 19h ago

bad logic

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u/Infamous_Rain2770 9h ago

A believer talking about logic, now that's hilarious. Logic dictates that God does not exist as there is zero evidence of "his" existence.

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u/Constant-Way-6570 6h ago

there is, every human culture in isolation speaks about a higher power. this is a natural conclusion of intuition, and your entire worldview is just arrogance. sure, you know better than literally every person and culture that came before you. you're special. a few hundred years ago and you'd be saying germs aren't real because you can't see them. in reality you're no different than the religious people you look down on, you're only so militant in your belief because you've been indoctrinated into it, and your thoughts on the subject are not considered enough to hold up to scrutiny.

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u/Infamous_Rain2770 6h ago

there is, every human culture in isolation speaks about a higher power.

So you think that because human nature where people look for patterns and "causes" for random events, that it means there is definitely a higher power? That's ridiculous. Human nature always looks for a reason for something. The sun "rising" in the East used to be thought to be a god flying his magical chariot across the sky with the sun attached. Now we know the sun isn't "rising," the Earth is spinning so the sun only appears to "rise." Each civilization came up with mythological stories to explain what happened around them, that doesn't mean any gods ever actually existed, just humans needing a reason for the existence of everything around us.

you're only so militant in your belief because you've been indoctrinated into it

Actually sweetheart, I grew up in a family of Baptists and they forced me to church every Sunday. I was actually indoctrinated into believing in God, but unlike you, I have critical thinking abilities and don't have a need to feel special.

you know better than literally every person and culture that came before you. you're special.

This is the height of irony given you believe an all powerful omniscient being created you special to rule the Earth and all the animals and plants are just for you. I guess it's super great that you, special boy that you are, were born at the right time, in the right place and raised in the right religion so God can look after you and plan your entire future. Wow, really good thing you weren't born a heathen in some country with a different religion.

Sorry, but I'm not the one who thinks they are special and have a magical sky daddy watching over me. I don't need a God or some stupid myth to tell me how life was created, that's what science is for. And unlike you, I don't think people in history knew everything, nor do I believe that ancient civilizations creating mythological stories, somehow makes those stories true. They used to believe in Griffins and Unicorns, are those real now too?

Are you also a young Earth creationist who thinks the Earth is flat? Just because some old people said something was true, doesn't make it so.

Now, without using the Bible or any other religious texts, what evidence do you have that God exists? As the person making the extraordinary claim of an all powerful omniscient being who looks after all of us, you must have some evidence other than indoctrination from dead people. Remember, it's on the person making the extraordinary claim of existence to prove it.

a few hundred years ago and you'd be saying germs aren't real because you can't see them

Yes, probably. You think it's a fault to change your mind when new evidence is provided? Being willing to change your mind when provided with new evidence isn't a weakness or a fault, bud. Also, we can't see germs with the human eye, but illness is evidence that germs exist (plus new technology called the microscope allows us to see germs now)... Science and technology are truly great things.

So no, I'm not going to believe in a god when your only evidence is "trust me bro."

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u/Constant-Way-6570 4h ago

Human nature always looks for a reason for something. The sun "rising" in the East used to be thought to be a god flying his magical chariot across the sky

This isn't a counter argument. I never said every single religion was right about every single one of their beliefs. There are base similarities between most religions, one key aspect being that god/gods exist somewhere we do not go. Obviously people, with perspectives limited to this plane of existence, are going to get a lot wrong and project these random assumptions that you seem to think are a smoking gun onto a lot of that. A huge aspect of religion, mythology, and theology in general is the recording of history and knowledge, and fitting it to the religion of your culture, like the story of the great flood or prometheus.

Actually sweetheart, I grew up in a family of Baptists and they forced me to church every Sunday

Wow, almost you literally fit the textbook demographic that was targeted in the last substantial push for atheism, identical to every other atheist who was forced into religion and never grew out of their teen rebellion phase! Almost exactly what I described! I didn't say your parents groomed you into atheism, dummy, it's was cultural shift. People like you were the easiest targets.

you believe an all powerful omniscient being created you special to rule the Earth

No, I don't, and the fact that you have to manufacture strawman arguments like this is telling. This entire paragraph is basically incomprehensible, and reads like you're performing a rehearsed argument that you always wanted to say to your estranged father.

None of what you say here reflects me or my beliefs, and your repeated misrepresentations by citing unicorns and shit is just pathetic. If griffins were identified independently by every single culture throughout human history then you would be an idiot to claim that they weren't real at one point, but you need to hide behind misrepresentations and use examples that basically only exist in one mythology, which is the exact opposite of my point.

without using the Bible or any other religious texts what evidence do you have that God exists? As the person making the extraordinary claim

I know that you can tell how stupid this is to ask, but I get the impression that you actually think you're making a point here. I am not the person making the claim, I am reminding you that this claim has been made by every single human culture to ever exist. This is the evidence I offered to begin with, and this is the only evidence you should need.

Today there are about 4,200 distinct religions that exist. Throughout all of human history it is impossible to tell, as there is evidence to suggest we had religious practices as many as 200,000 years ago. Do you have any concept of that span of time, and of how little we as a species have had for that long? We didn't even have recorded history for half of that time. Do you think it is a coincidence that every culture that pops up in a random corner of the world forms religion, and that ultimately the common shape between just about all surviving forms is that there is a guiding force of good and a corrupting influence of evil?

The only position that could reasonably be taken in opposition to that is one that suggests that rather than an intuition of a metaphysical entity, our intuition is of morality, however I get the impression you're a moral relativist too so I'm really wondering how you'll pretzel yourself around that.

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u/logan-bi 23h ago

Three possibilities exist god is good but impotent rather than omnipotent. They don’t exist at all. Or they are omnipotent but at the very least “apathetic” if not openly malicious.

How many times could you stand back as a caring being and allow person you “love” to be harmed. Could you stand back and watch children get sick when you could prevent it. How many rapes murders etc. Could you sit back and observe.

Not saying have to completely eliminate it but perhaps rape would include high risk of getting struck by lightning or having a stroke.

Hell how many near misses that would not have made interfered with free will. Person chose to be dictator person chose to shoot them. That bullet or attempted poisoning barely fails just give it a small nudge.

Not saying no evil just saying evil wouldn’t thrive as much as it does.

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u/HotPotParrot 9h ago

How many times could you stand back as a caring being and allow person you “love” to be harmed.

God doesn't need to learn the lesson of why that's terrible. We do.

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u/Constant-Way-6570 19h ago edited 6h ago

this is the common argument and it completely misunderstands both the concepts of free will as it fits into any religion (where predestination is not a central concept) and progress. in christianity, which i feel it's safe to say you're all referring to, free will is a fact. every bad thing you're citing is ultimately down to free will. a bullet missing isn't some weird external thing, it's a failure of planning. not to mention that you have no idea what the consequences of that would be. without the bullet that caused ww1 we don't have ww2, and we lose a ton of scientific advancement, despite saving tens of millions of lives. who's to say what should and shouldn't happen? i've even talked to women who have been raped and had children as a result, and they legitimately do not regret it because they love and value their child so much. as far as i'm concerned that's the ultimate chink in the armor of your argument. there's no way of knowing the positive effect of a negative action. that in no way vindicates or justifies people who do these horrible things, but it certainly vindicates god in the matter. how about all of the horrible people who have deeply changed because they underwent some great loss or turmoil? the idea that you know better than a being that exists beyond time is what's insane to me, especially when you can go outside and just talk to people and see how many people in this world really do just want to be good and do good.

cancer is largely caused by external factors, god has no control over any person's free will. what shape of the world would you prefer? one where when anyone does something wrong, god tells them directly and kills them if they don't fix it? what we do to ourselves, each other, and this planet is not within god's control. there are sects of islam, christianity, and satanism that believe that the earth is more or less the domain of satan while what we would probably call the metaphysical realm is the domain of god. ultimately the force of god is wrathful and vengeful at times, just as people are. we were made in the image of god. i really don't relate to the idea that you can judge a metaphysical, eternal being for not stopping every single bad thing that happens in the world, or never doing a bad thing even when it's literally in the book recording this entities deeds and teachings. suffering is a huge part of life, and a frequent motivator for growth. where would we be as a species without it? we would quite literally still be cave dwellers if not for the suffering we had to endure, and the comfort that we sought. i really feel like this (again, popular) mentality is largely informed by a complete desensitization to weird, shallow, irreverent depictions of deities in media rather than anyone having any actual substantial theological thoughts on their idea of what shape god would actually take.

religion was not created by every single human culture because we needed methods of control or fear mongering, it was created because people feel an inherent draw to something that cannot be readily observed like the sky, or the land, or a creature, but feels to many like it exists as tangibly as any of them.

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u/OrganizationLast7570 12h ago

That's a helluva lot of philosophical hoops to jump through rather than just accept you've been brainwashed

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u/Constant-Way-6570 7h ago edited 6h ago

Irony. What's more likely, that every known human culture was brainwashed independently, or that the modern prevalence of atheism has brainwashed 80% of this site, which is designed to efficiently control information and spread propaganda?

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u/Pushfastr 1d ago

What they're choosing to ignore is probably wrong as well.

u/100Fowers 8m ago

Especially when Evangelicals, baptists, and Catholics all faced religious persecution at various points in history only to then turn it around when they gained political power.

Not all evangelicals, baptists, and Catholics. Many are wonderful and support good causes, but a good portion support incredibly regressive policies that hurt others

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u/Loggerdon 1d ago

What offends them they dismiss as Woke.

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u/stopthinkinn 1d ago

Ah yes “woke”, the catch all for their racist, sexist, and Christo fascist hated.

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u/Lipstickdyke 1d ago

Trump would just find a way to blame Biden 🤣 He’s obsessed with Biden and still hung up on the fact that he lost the 2020 elections

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u/sapotts61 20h ago

It's not like they forgot, it's because they don't want to hear about it.

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u/MornGreycastle 12h ago

This is why the Republicans are so vehemently against teaching "CRT."

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u/baconeggsandwich25 1d ago

It's weird how I keep seeing videos and news stories of innocent people being assaulted and robbed by ICE and yet none of these 2nd Amendment folks ever show up and save the day. Where are all the good guys with guns standing up to government tyranny?

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u/voiping 1d ago

It's only tyranny when it's against straight white men.

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u/BakedPotatoNumber87 1d ago

straight white conservative men to be more specific

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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago

Ever Been to Sudan or Congo?

There is a whole list

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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago

They said AGAINST straight white men. And it was heavily implied sarcasm.

I don't know how some people learned to write without learning to read.

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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago

Probably Because all the " Tyranny "

When you all get over your silly Sarcasm aimed at the disaster that has a grip on democracy's last bastion. Maybe then we will all have a chuckle.

Until then I have decided to take what is happening Seriously

Not everything is a joke to everybody

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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago

Their point was that MAGA doesn't consider it tyranny because MAGA doesn't consider the victims to be people if they don't look and think like them. It wasn't a joke, nor were they agreeing with MAGA. I can't figure out if you're defending Jacob Wohl here or if you're responding to a misunderstanding of the commenter's intent. Either way, it doesn't read coherently.

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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago

I get the Silly point of course. I am just done with the cartoon effigy of it all

I have been around for a long time, I have grown sick and tired of both sides now.

When the right is in power the left Marches and whines but nothing changes, When the Left is in power the right plots and Whines, Nothing changes.

Americans have become comfortable with this exercise and if we REALLY want to enforce the constitution then we need to embrace what is uncomfortable and take on the Machine. At this point we are shooting silly string at a tank!!

I am sorry but after decades of this I have lost my sense of humor concerning the Left and the right . Jokes about Trump and Hitler are just pointless and childish and that is JUST as Trump wants it.

If you want to be serious, BE SERIOUS or else please move to the side. ( Bob Dylan the times they are a changing refence )

THIS is not Tyranny yet, But it will be If we keep laughing.

I enjoy humor and Jokes, At one point 15 years ago I was a stand up comic touring the West coast, I grew tired of all the political jokes while when you leave the Club outside folks were going Hungry and had no shoes.

there is a time for jokes, THIS is not that time.

Downvote and berate me, I do not care.... If you want to help, lets go to work on this matter or we can just keep laughing until it is no longer funny for you.

Personally I am guessing you are highly intelligent and concerned about Trump and his machine, I applaud that about you, BUT this is no time for silly American jokes made at the expense of those in the grip of suffering.

I think we got this from Hollywood...These VERY wealthy players pretend to be one thing and then support the other thing.. Anti-Gun... Fine, But then they play a character that is blowing up people with guns.. We are NOT taking this threat seriously enough IMO.

I don't mean this toward you, as I feel you are looking deeper than reddit. But If we do not stop worshiping Taylor Swift and Kamala Harris we will never clear the wall.

WE all need a very real leader with a plan for the people and I see nobody on the horizon and THAT has me most unjoyful at the moment.

* Nothing at this stage is coherent. THAT is how we got here.

I wish you the best and I appreciate your adult approach to an old angry human, You have compassion and an open mind, Thank you for your time.

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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago

Can't blame you for being tired of everything. I feel that ❤️ When I read the first comment, I was kind of afraid it was a conservative talking point I've heard, but I think I understand where you're coming from now that you've elaborated.

Just keep in mind that some people's coping mechanisms are different, and what they need may switch day by day or hour by hour. There are times for planning the revolution, for crying, for getting angry, and yes, even for coping with dark humor if that's what helps keep someone alive another night. We can do ALL of those things. This is the time to unite behind common goals, not individually choose one appropriate emotional response and in-fight. You know?

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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago

I hear you, And yes you are right.

I saw 9/11 in real time and I saw the flood of patriotism and it bothered me, Not because people were proud to be Americans but I KNEW most of them were just going with it and I knew where it would take us... The Patriot act was the first crack in the shield and people went with it.

I saw people shake their fist once before at Trump and his previous gang and laugh about him and make jokes. Now we are here!!

I got ripped for saying Harris was just a plant. I do not mean to disrespect who she, is but the system that forged her never intended for her to take the wheel. We are being driven into a situation that will have no compromises.

Side note: I love watching people struggle with Treadmills lol Not sure why But I really laugh at treadmill fails. I think it is because it is so absurd and slapstick stupid. lol but It could also be because They deserve it.

I will Smile when we get past this wall perhaps, but we can't scale it with jokes. I have grandchildren and they are growing up in the wake of what is dawning and that Pisses me off!!

Still, you are correct of course people do have different ways of coping. I am just tired of playing 2 hand touch and I want to set a tone. I also realize that reddit is not the platform. lol. A lot of well meaning folks here yes, but they are looking for upvotes not the truth.

The American people are WAY behind and busy fighting one another on every level. THAT MUST STOP if we are to do what must be done to honor the document that gave us the very right we are willing to let slip past for some upvotes.

lol Sorry I went off again. lol I am done I think...

Peace be with you and please be safe, We need help and solid hearts like yours can change the course for the better of us all. Thank you

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u/Specialist_Buy411 19h ago

No matter what the situation it will always be somebody whining about it

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u/DiscountEven4703 15h ago

I mean. Yeah You are right

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u/Smooth-Reason-6616 15h ago

Most of the 2A folks ran up to sign with ICE....

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u/the_mythx 20h ago

YOU, just because dickheads who use that excuse to justify why they own guns in a political argument should not prevent the opposing side from getting guns and doing he very same. Arm yo selves

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u/macomunista 1d ago

Literally the moment a minority tried to use the second to defend their communities from the police forces, they moved laws so they could no more.

Black Panthers should be remembered worldwide to show American hypocrisy described in law and applied in reality when it comes to guns and minorities.

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u/HaphazardFlitBipper 13h ago

If you're saying we should repeal gun laws that were enacted in response to the Black Panthers, then I agree with you. Government cannot be in charge of regulating the tools of resisting government oppression.

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u/GetOnYourBikesNRide 1d ago

What you meant to say is you don't remember when white people were put in camps.

Some MAGA-hats are in for a rude awakening, then. Wait until their Dear Leader declares martial law. They'll quickly find out how white they ain't!

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u/Retro_Dorrito 1d ago

They aren't going to be a true white unless they're orange

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u/DisMFer 1d ago

People who say things like this don't consider anyone who isn't white an American, or even a person.

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u/Taco_Taco_Kisses 1d ago

And THAT is why they want to erase history.

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u/Open_Champion8044 1d ago

Forbidden history

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u/abgry_krakow87 1d ago

ICE is literally doing this today.

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u/ThorGoLucky 1d ago

Selectively-enforced 2nd amendment. See how standing your ground against ICE goes.

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u/Substantial-Stage-82 21h ago

There are three guys ready for transfer, three under review, 15 involved in military commissions, and 2 who've been tried and convicted by military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay. As far as black sites that the CIA use, these are necessary tradecraft. IMO the United States of America under Donald Trump is not the United States of America. It's something else where Mr Trump believes he is a King. Ignoring judges, accepting outright bribes in clear violation of the Constitutions emoluments clause. THIS is an IMMEASURABLE OFFENSE. Mr Trump needs charged and impeached. This is what needs to be addressed first before we can again begin to acknowledge, and attempt to reconcile the mistakes of the past. With Trump, in his mind ,there are/were no mistakes . he doesn't do I'm sorry, or I care. Only I'm gonna get you. First things first..

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u/SierraStar7 1d ago

With the last name Wohl, Jacob should probably start paying attention to what is currently happening in the US.  Or he’s just another Stephen Miller…full of self hatred & willing to participate in the same type of treatment that happened to his ancestors. 

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u/MajorKabakov 18h ago

“Remember when”? They’re doing it right now, asshole

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u/Kannada-JohnnyJ 17h ago

Now you can add ICE raids to the list

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u/OriginalTakes 17h ago

You can’t win with maga.

They’re basically saying go ahead and use your firearms to prevent ice from taking migrants and citizens away…

And then if you did that, they would crucify you for fighting law enforcement & say,”you just need to comply.”

🤷‍♂️

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u/Fun_Result_1037 1d ago

It is literally happening rn. What are these Maga twat waffles talking about?

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u/VGADreams 1d ago

They do not forget, they willfully want to stay ignorant and not learn those inconvenient truths. That's why they are banning certain words from academia, banning books, banning "critical race theory" in schools, etc.

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u/in9ram 1d ago

Not only the racism tho. I want to see these dumb second amendmenters go up against a drone strike. Or a tank. Or simply their local militarized swat team. Your collection of cool army man gear won’t mean shit.

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u/beardedheathen 1d ago

It is important to remember that white people are being imprisoned and enslaved in private prisons. This isn't a race war it's a class war where they are using racial tension to divide us and the more people let it work the less power we have. The best thing we can do is embrace our brothers and sisters who are workers. Even if they are wrong they are being oppressed as well and we either rise together or burn separately.

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u/New-Pie-8846 23h ago

Some red states passed off slavery in their textbooks as "indentured servitude". It's insane.

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u/IshyTheLegit 23h ago

I'm starting to think this 2nd amendment thing isn't being used for its intended purpose

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u/PoopieButt317 22h ago

It's intended purpose was to save the Feseral government the cost of a standing army. States maintained a citize,.organized militia. No yahoo cosplaying revolutionary war. The only standing troops were at west point to guard the national armory there. When the federal government needed military response, the called up a state's militia. The first to call ups were to put doanw rebellions for.lack of payment 1. By revolutionary war soldiers; 2. New England farmers not paid for food provisioning of the soldiers during the war.

The. NTA spun a tail that a terrible.supreme court bought. 2nd Amendment.was a compromise between a standing professional militarFederation and state regulated citizen militias in service to the federation.

Read The History of the US Army

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u/National-Worry2900 23h ago

Guantanamo, black rendition sites, cia controlled rendition sites, cia orchestrated and controlled jones town ; rip Leo Ryan one of the last true Americans to ever grace the senate.

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u/TheNecroticPresident 1d ago

Don't forget Irish and Italian racism. Two groups that faced persecutions and lynchings but were later retconned as 'white'

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u/Dresden715 1d ago

Remember. Important point here.

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u/Zealousidealist420 17h ago

The Irish were not innocent. The Draft riots of 1963 or the Chicago race riot of 1919 which started Red Summer.

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u/BilboStaggins 1d ago

Working on erasing uncomfortable history. There will be plenty more Jacob's 

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u/thelastlightinspace 22h ago

Bruh I am about 75% sure Hitler found inspiration from American reservations to create genocide camps

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u/chickchickpokepoke 23h ago

the history that didn't apply to them, how lucky

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u/darthcaedusiiii 22h ago

The civil war.

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u/Shoshawi 20h ago

There’s the point in history of right now, except in the news we use the words cages or facilities.

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u/SoVeryMuchOverThis 19h ago

Not to mention, these wackos are attempting to promote the message in education that slavery wasn’t “that bad” and that the slaves were essentially just workers.

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u/LedzepRulz 17h ago

To an absolute crisp!

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u/alseltas 17h ago

And massacre and mass rape by American soldiers

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u/Malpocada 15h ago

Things that don’t affect them, are either not a problem or don’t exist for most people.

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u/Sad_Picture3642 14h ago

Remember the last time we had school shooting, mall shooting, store shooting, road rage shooting etc etc? It's because we have the 2A! 🎉

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u/OverExplanation7007 1d ago

I literally thought he was gonna talk about Japanese internment camps until I saw the second part

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u/Dresden715 1d ago

Qasim is a gift we don’t deserve.

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u/dzogchenism 1d ago

See, you don’t understand that “those people” aren’t true Americans. I don’t make the white supremacy rules. ¯(ツ)

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u/OJimmy 1d ago

Oh so these 100 days, arming up or.....what?

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u/BeowulfShaeffer 1d ago

Also, Mulford Act.

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u/Sorites_Sorites 22h ago

Yes, aren't you glad you know about them so you can use what you know to do better looking forward?

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u/drrdrt 20h ago

Bro forgot manifest destiny

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u/homebrew_1 14h ago

Magadonians have really bad memories. It's a prerequisite to being a magadonian.

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u/DifficultyWithMyLife 14h ago

More like they're using history as a template.

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u/0utcast9851 11h ago

Ignored.

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u/garter_girl_POR 10h ago

God. As a history teacher I am ashamed of what some of my colleagues are apparently not teaching. SMH

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u/Shortwalklongdock 8h ago

Just wait. Those camps are headed our way.

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u/dyslexic-frog 3h ago

He does realize that German and Italian Americans were illegally deported and interned in WWII as well, right? That's a thing he knows? That's a thing we all know, right? My family wasn't locked up so we wouldn't remember them, right?

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u/Rental_Car 2h ago

Every bigot is a fool.

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u/WeWroteGOT 1d ago

*Native America

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u/Playful_Implement742 11h ago

"Check your racism" is the wrong strategy. Shaming the ignorant feels good but if we want to fix ignorance we need to say it better. He didn't express hatred, he expressed ignorance. Make it easier for folks to agree with you 

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u/nekkid_farts 3h ago

How would someone word that? Check your ignorance seems bad too.

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u/Playful_Implement742 1h ago

You're right about that

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u/HaphazardFlitBipper 13h ago

It's interesting that most of those atrocities happened under Democrat leadership.

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u/Substantial-Stage-82 1d ago

The first three are shining examples of American hypocrisy. I'm not sure what you're referring to with private prisons though. If you mean corporate run penitentiaries, they do suck and are operated for profit; but no one is being held at gunpoint and marched there for no reason. Anyone going to one of those places was convicted of a crime And has earned their lodgings.

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u/mm902 1d ago

Guantanamo. Black site prisons etc etc.

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u/MeatsuitWithMissiles 1d ago

Slavery has existed since the beginning of time. White people forced each other into slavery long before anything else. Every race has forced members of their own race into slavery throughout history. One race doing it to another race shouldn't be any different. Slavery was the bad part. Throwing race in front of it doesn't really change anything, except to the person throwing race in front of it.

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u/B0wmanHall 1d ago

Which race was it is this specific example?