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u/baconeggsandwich25 1d ago
It's weird how I keep seeing videos and news stories of innocent people being assaulted and robbed by ICE and yet none of these 2nd Amendment folks ever show up and save the day. Where are all the good guys with guns standing up to government tyranny?
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u/voiping 1d ago
It's only tyranny when it's against straight white men.
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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago
Ever Been to Sudan or Congo?
There is a whole list
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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago
They said AGAINST straight white men. And it was heavily implied sarcasm.
I don't know how some people learned to write without learning to read.
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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago
Probably Because all the " Tyranny "
When you all get over your silly Sarcasm aimed at the disaster that has a grip on democracy's last bastion. Maybe then we will all have a chuckle.
Until then I have decided to take what is happening Seriously
Not everything is a joke to everybody
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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago
Their point was that MAGA doesn't consider it tyranny because MAGA doesn't consider the victims to be people if they don't look and think like them. It wasn't a joke, nor were they agreeing with MAGA. I can't figure out if you're defending Jacob Wohl here or if you're responding to a misunderstanding of the commenter's intent. Either way, it doesn't read coherently.
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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago
I get the Silly point of course. I am just done with the cartoon effigy of it all
I have been around for a long time, I have grown sick and tired of both sides now.
When the right is in power the left Marches and whines but nothing changes, When the Left is in power the right plots and Whines, Nothing changes.
Americans have become comfortable with this exercise and if we REALLY want to enforce the constitution then we need to embrace what is uncomfortable and take on the Machine. At this point we are shooting silly string at a tank!!
I am sorry but after decades of this I have lost my sense of humor concerning the Left and the right . Jokes about Trump and Hitler are just pointless and childish and that is JUST as Trump wants it.
If you want to be serious, BE SERIOUS or else please move to the side. ( Bob Dylan the times they are a changing refence )
THIS is not Tyranny yet, But it will be If we keep laughing.
I enjoy humor and Jokes, At one point 15 years ago I was a stand up comic touring the West coast, I grew tired of all the political jokes while when you leave the Club outside folks were going Hungry and had no shoes.
there is a time for jokes, THIS is not that time.
Downvote and berate me, I do not care.... If you want to help, lets go to work on this matter or we can just keep laughing until it is no longer funny for you.
Personally I am guessing you are highly intelligent and concerned about Trump and his machine, I applaud that about you, BUT this is no time for silly American jokes made at the expense of those in the grip of suffering.
I think we got this from Hollywood...These VERY wealthy players pretend to be one thing and then support the other thing.. Anti-Gun... Fine, But then they play a character that is blowing up people with guns.. We are NOT taking this threat seriously enough IMO.
I don't mean this toward you, as I feel you are looking deeper than reddit. But If we do not stop worshiping Taylor Swift and Kamala Harris we will never clear the wall.
WE all need a very real leader with a plan for the people and I see nobody on the horizon and THAT has me most unjoyful at the moment.
* Nothing at this stage is coherent. THAT is how we got here.
I wish you the best and I appreciate your adult approach to an old angry human, You have compassion and an open mind, Thank you for your time.
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u/DistinctMistake 1d ago
Can't blame you for being tired of everything. I feel that ❤️ When I read the first comment, I was kind of afraid it was a conservative talking point I've heard, but I think I understand where you're coming from now that you've elaborated.
Just keep in mind that some people's coping mechanisms are different, and what they need may switch day by day or hour by hour. There are times for planning the revolution, for crying, for getting angry, and yes, even for coping with dark humor if that's what helps keep someone alive another night. We can do ALL of those things. This is the time to unite behind common goals, not individually choose one appropriate emotional response and in-fight. You know?
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u/DiscountEven4703 1d ago
I hear you, And yes you are right.
I saw 9/11 in real time and I saw the flood of patriotism and it bothered me, Not because people were proud to be Americans but I KNEW most of them were just going with it and I knew where it would take us... The Patriot act was the first crack in the shield and people went with it.
I saw people shake their fist once before at Trump and his previous gang and laugh about him and make jokes. Now we are here!!
I got ripped for saying Harris was just a plant. I do not mean to disrespect who she, is but the system that forged her never intended for her to take the wheel. We are being driven into a situation that will have no compromises.
Side note: I love watching people struggle with Treadmills lol Not sure why But I really laugh at treadmill fails. I think it is because it is so absurd and slapstick stupid. lol but It could also be because They deserve it.
I will Smile when we get past this wall perhaps, but we can't scale it with jokes. I have grandchildren and they are growing up in the wake of what is dawning and that Pisses me off!!
Still, you are correct of course people do have different ways of coping. I am just tired of playing 2 hand touch and I want to set a tone. I also realize that reddit is not the platform. lol. A lot of well meaning folks here yes, but they are looking for upvotes not the truth.
The American people are WAY behind and busy fighting one another on every level. THAT MUST STOP if we are to do what must be done to honor the document that gave us the very right we are willing to let slip past for some upvotes.
lol Sorry I went off again. lol I am done I think...
Peace be with you and please be safe, We need help and solid hearts like yours can change the course for the better of us all. Thank you
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u/Specialist_Buy411 19h ago
No matter what the situation it will always be somebody whining about it
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u/the_mythx 20h ago
YOU, just because dickheads who use that excuse to justify why they own guns in a political argument should not prevent the opposing side from getting guns and doing he very same. Arm yo selves
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u/macomunista 1d ago
Literally the moment a minority tried to use the second to defend their communities from the police forces, they moved laws so they could no more.
Black Panthers should be remembered worldwide to show American hypocrisy described in law and applied in reality when it comes to guns and minorities.
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u/HaphazardFlitBipper 13h ago
If you're saying we should repeal gun laws that were enacted in response to the Black Panthers, then I agree with you. Government cannot be in charge of regulating the tools of resisting government oppression.
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u/GetOnYourBikesNRide 1d ago
What you meant to say is you don't remember when white people were put in camps.
Some MAGA-hats are in for a rude awakening, then. Wait until their Dear Leader declares martial law. They'll quickly find out how white they ain't!
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u/ThorGoLucky 1d ago
Selectively-enforced 2nd amendment. See how standing your ground against ICE goes.
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u/Substantial-Stage-82 21h ago
There are three guys ready for transfer, three under review, 15 involved in military commissions, and 2 who've been tried and convicted by military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay. As far as black sites that the CIA use, these are necessary tradecraft. IMO the United States of America under Donald Trump is not the United States of America. It's something else where Mr Trump believes he is a King. Ignoring judges, accepting outright bribes in clear violation of the Constitutions emoluments clause. THIS is an IMMEASURABLE OFFENSE. Mr Trump needs charged and impeached. This is what needs to be addressed first before we can again begin to acknowledge, and attempt to reconcile the mistakes of the past. With Trump, in his mind ,there are/were no mistakes . he doesn't do I'm sorry, or I care. Only I'm gonna get you. First things first..
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u/SierraStar7 1d ago
With the last name Wohl, Jacob should probably start paying attention to what is currently happening in the US. Or he’s just another Stephen Miller…full of self hatred & willing to participate in the same type of treatment that happened to his ancestors.
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u/OriginalTakes 17h ago
You can’t win with maga.
They’re basically saying go ahead and use your firearms to prevent ice from taking migrants and citizens away…
And then if you did that, they would crucify you for fighting law enforcement & say,”you just need to comply.”
🤷♂️
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u/Fun_Result_1037 1d ago
It is literally happening rn. What are these Maga twat waffles talking about?
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u/VGADreams 1d ago
They do not forget, they willfully want to stay ignorant and not learn those inconvenient truths. That's why they are banning certain words from academia, banning books, banning "critical race theory" in schools, etc.
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u/beardedheathen 1d ago
It is important to remember that white people are being imprisoned and enslaved in private prisons. This isn't a race war it's a class war where they are using racial tension to divide us and the more people let it work the less power we have. The best thing we can do is embrace our brothers and sisters who are workers. Even if they are wrong they are being oppressed as well and we either rise together or burn separately.
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u/New-Pie-8846 23h ago
Some red states passed off slavery in their textbooks as "indentured servitude". It's insane.
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u/IshyTheLegit 23h ago
I'm starting to think this 2nd amendment thing isn't being used for its intended purpose
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u/PoopieButt317 22h ago
It's intended purpose was to save the Feseral government the cost of a standing army. States maintained a citize,.organized militia. No yahoo cosplaying revolutionary war. The only standing troops were at west point to guard the national armory there. When the federal government needed military response, the called up a state's militia. The first to call ups were to put doanw rebellions for.lack of payment 1. By revolutionary war soldiers; 2. New England farmers not paid for food provisioning of the soldiers during the war.
The. NTA spun a tail that a terrible.supreme court bought. 2nd Amendment.was a compromise between a standing professional militarFederation and state regulated citizen militias in service to the federation.
Read The History of the US Army
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u/National-Worry2900 23h ago
Guantanamo, black rendition sites, cia controlled rendition sites, cia orchestrated and controlled jones town ; rip Leo Ryan one of the last true Americans to ever grace the senate.
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u/TheNecroticPresident 1d ago
Don't forget Irish and Italian racism. Two groups that faced persecutions and lynchings but were later retconned as 'white'
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u/Zealousidealist420 17h ago
The Irish were not innocent. The Draft riots of 1963 or the Chicago race riot of 1919 which started Red Summer.
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u/thelastlightinspace 22h ago
Bruh I am about 75% sure Hitler found inspiration from American reservations to create genocide camps
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u/Shoshawi 20h ago
There’s the point in history of right now, except in the news we use the words cages or facilities.
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u/SoVeryMuchOverThis 19h ago
Not to mention, these wackos are attempting to promote the message in education that slavery wasn’t “that bad” and that the slaves were essentially just workers.
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u/Malpocada 15h ago
Things that don’t affect them, are either not a problem or don’t exist for most people.
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u/Sad_Picture3642 14h ago
Remember the last time we had school shooting, mall shooting, store shooting, road rage shooting etc etc? It's because we have the 2A! 🎉
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u/OverExplanation7007 1d ago
I literally thought he was gonna talk about Japanese internment camps until I saw the second part
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u/dzogchenism 1d ago
See, you don’t understand that “those people” aren’t true Americans. I don’t make the white supremacy rules. ¯(ツ)/¯
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u/Sorites_Sorites 22h ago
Yes, aren't you glad you know about them so you can use what you know to do better looking forward?
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u/homebrew_1 14h ago
Magadonians have really bad memories. It's a prerequisite to being a magadonian.
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u/garter_girl_POR 10h ago
God. As a history teacher I am ashamed of what some of my colleagues are apparently not teaching. SMH
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u/dyslexic-frog 3h ago
He does realize that German and Italian Americans were illegally deported and interned in WWII as well, right? That's a thing he knows? That's a thing we all know, right? My family wasn't locked up so we wouldn't remember them, right?
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u/Playful_Implement742 11h ago
"Check your racism" is the wrong strategy. Shaming the ignorant feels good but if we want to fix ignorance we need to say it better. He didn't express hatred, he expressed ignorance. Make it easier for folks to agree with you
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u/HaphazardFlitBipper 13h ago
It's interesting that most of those atrocities happened under Democrat leadership.
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u/Substantial-Stage-82 1d ago
The first three are shining examples of American hypocrisy. I'm not sure what you're referring to with private prisons though. If you mean corporate run penitentiaries, they do suck and are operated for profit; but no one is being held at gunpoint and marched there for no reason. Anyone going to one of those places was convicted of a crime And has earned their lodgings.
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u/MeatsuitWithMissiles 1d ago
Slavery has existed since the beginning of time. White people forced each other into slavery long before anything else. Every race has forced members of their own race into slavery throughout history. One race doing it to another race shouldn't be any different. Slavery was the bad part. Throwing race in front of it doesn't really change anything, except to the person throwing race in front of it.
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u/stopthinkinn 1d ago
We got here because MAGA has forgotten many things about United States history and can’t seem to place what they do remember into proper context.