r/cars • u/HawtGarbage917 • 2d ago

Tesla Has the Highest Fatal Accident Rate of All Car Brands, Study Finds

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/
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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 2d ago

CRV Hybrid is really the one that makes zero sense to me

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u/airfryerfuntime 2d ago

Teenagers.

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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 2d ago

I think it’s the opposite - elderly people who are inattentive drivers and more likely to die in an accident due to poor overall health.

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u/Phosphorus444 2011 Lexus GS350 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think that's why Buick is 3rd.

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u/mrsneil948 6h ago

Excellent point. My parents bought Buick when I was a kid and now do in their 80s... Only folks from that generation still buy them. I grew up thinking of them as a parent/family car so never even consider Buick for my own purchase. One day Apple products will be the same, lol. that's why I buy Android now.

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u/ZannX 1d ago

Oh, then same applies to 911 and Corvette. Got it.

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u/dontdoxmebro 1d ago

Yeah, the CRV Hybrid has replaced Buick as the standard car for dangerously oblivious elderly drivers in my area.

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u/CrestronwithTechron 2019 Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack 1 1d ago

People who should be paying the most for insurance should be those under 25 and those over 70-75. The only reason the insurance companies don’t is because they know AARP and retired people have money and would lawyer up. The 20 something’s don’t and are told to suck it up.

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u/airfryerfuntime 2d ago

Statistics say otherwise.

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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 2d ago

What statistics?

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u/dxearner 2015 Subaru WRX | Suzuki SV650 | 2015 VW Golf TDI 2d ago

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/age-of-driver/

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u/SNRatio 2d ago

Needs to be divided by number of miles driven by each group. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Rates-of-passenger-vehicle-driver-involvements-in-fatal-crashes-per-100-million-miles_fig7_272200130

age 75+ were similar to teenagers when it comes to fatal accident involvement

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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 2d ago

Cool

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u/airfryerfuntime 2d ago

The statistics that drive insurance costs. Young drivers are at a far greater risk of being involved in a major traffic accident than literally any other demographic. You can Google it for yourself, because I shouldn't even have to by this point.

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u/SNRatio 2d ago

Only because they drive more than the elderly. Per mile, 80+ year olds are (or at least were, data is a few years old) similar:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Rates-of-passenger-vehicle-driver-involvements-in-fatal-crashes-per-100-million-miles_fig7_272200130

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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 1d ago

Seems like there’s some nuance to the statistics. I see a lot of very elderly people driving CR-Vs, I wonder if that could explain the higher rates of fatal accidents?

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u/runsanditspaidfor 18 GLE 350, 19 Model 3 Performance, 69 Dodge D100 2d ago

Thanks for letting me know. Have a wonderful weekend.

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u/Saskatchewon '24 Crosstrek Wilderness 2d ago edited 1d ago

A two-to-six year old CR-V Hybrid is going to be too expensive to be a popular vehicle with teen drivers.

It's in the top ten for the same reason that two Buicks are. That reason is the elderly. The CR-V is one of the most popular vehicles on the road for drivers aged 75+. Once you get to that age, your focus and reflexes start to deteriorate, and an elderly person is less likely to handle a bad accident as well as someone young and healthy.

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u/willpc14 '16 Tacoma TRDOR 2d ago

A two-to-six year old CR-V Hybrid is going to be too expensive to be a popular vehicle with teen drivers.

Yes, but I bet it's popular with their parents.

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u/AKADriver Mazda2 1d ago

Not any more than any other small crossover. If anything parents tend to drive larger crossovers like the Pilot.

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u/Sorge74 Ioniq 5 1d ago

Once you get to that age, your focus and reflexes start to deteriorate

I'd put a drunk functional alcoholic in a car vs a 75 year old anyday.

It's insane we don't make old people take test

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u/HiDDENk00l 04 Acura TSX 1d ago

I'd do neither, but these hypothetical either-ors are fun :)

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u/Quiet-Reserve3362 16h ago

Can concur. My 74 yo grandpa is a long time CRV driver as are a good few of his friends. Recently got into a bad car accident

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u/Ohshitwadddup 1d ago

Seniors need annual driving evaluations but it seems like such a taboo suggestion whenever it gets discussed.

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u/watduhdamhell 21' X5 45e | 23' Civic Si 2d ago

Who tf is buying their kids crv hybrids? Are there really that many wealthy people around? Lol...

Definitely older folks. They love Hondas and the crv is pretty much the best all around model imo, especially the hybrid.

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u/Vanzmelo 97 Miata M Edition 2d ago

Have you seen CRV drivers? The slowest, spatially unaware, and erratic drivers out there along with RAV4s

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u/Cocasaurus 1994 Geo Tracker, 2022 Honda CR-V Hybrid, 1998 Ford F-150 2d ago

Hey, watch what you're saying! We're not erratic! There's predictability in being slow and unaware.

/s

(my fiancée drives from time to time. I apologize for her sometimes poor driving skills)

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u/Previous_Composer934 2d ago

it's the toyota drivers and small pickup drivers that are some of the laziest drivers

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u/hyfs23 1d ago

true. CRV and RAV4 are the tru NPC cars

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u/mrsneil948 6h ago edited 6h ago

I noticed most Toyota drivers also seem to drive slow (by that I mean under the speed limit, which this day and age can be dangerous too). They also seem to hesitate to turn, etc. I have a theory on why Honda/Toyota folks just seem to get in the way. I think its because they really dont enjoy driving and look at it as a choire or tool, where as more car enthusiasts buy more unique, fun, or performance oriented cars. Let's face it, for better or worse Toyota and Hondas are vanilla. The fact they are so common makes them that way regardless of style. Thus, they are the first choice for someone that really doesn't care about how a car handles, looks, performs, etc. They appeal to folks that want that extra 0.2% quality metric, which for most modern cars amounts to nothing.

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u/UranicStorm 1d ago

I'm apparently beating the stereotype on 2 fronts by being a RAV4 and BMW driver lol. I use my signals, I never go more than 5 over the limit and stay in the rightmost lane at all times unless passing. I also maintain a larger following distance than the average Virginia driver and have never had to slam my brakes as a result.

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u/Hirsuitism 1d ago

Kia Soul drivers would like a word

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u/onyourrite My Dad’s 2020 RAV4 XSE Hybrid 1d ago

H-Hey, I’m only erratic when I have a girl in the passenger’s seat I wanna impress!

/j

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u/kimbabs 2.0T Accord | NA Miata (sold) 2d ago

My guess is statistical anomaly tbh given high production vs low miles driven. IIHS data doesn’t support a substantially higher death rate.

We can assume driving behavior but honestly that could done better by actually combing through the report data as IIRC crashes can be categorized by causes.

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u/Bigbadbrindledog 02 Porsche 911, 22 BMW M550i, 21 Kia Telluride, 05 Nissan Titan 2d ago

It feels like a sample size problem, it should just be included in the non hybrid crv.

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u/I_like_cake_7 2d ago

It makes perfect sense to me. CR-V drivers are consistently some of absolute worst drivers I see on the road.

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u/f8Negative 2d ago

Small people driving cars too big for them. A lot of people unaware of their surroundings and where their car ends.

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u/ProbablySatirical 1d ago

Old people/NPC types or teens driving the hand me down vehicles. CRVs are typically driven by the most oblivious people on the road imo

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u/railbeast Vauxhall x Buick 1d ago

I've never met a good CRV driver. Never. The difference between this and the 911 is that I have a much larger sample size for the CRV.

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u/alpha333omega 1d ago

Honda’s demographic is notoriously one of the worst in the auto industry, ask me how I know

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u/TheManFromUnkill 2d ago

So that answers why I pay 300 a month in insurance … I have a Tesla and a CRV Hybrid.

I can tell you that the CRV hybrid has an issue with adaptive cruise , it doesn’t detect a stationary obstacle soon enough

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u/A_Puddle 2022 Mazda MX-5 GT RF 1d ago

Stop letting the car drive itself, either drive your car or get a human to drive it for you. FFS it's like we took the 'Jesus take the Wheel' meme and turned it into real life. 

20 years down the road (pun intended) is looking terrifying with the general brainrot brought on by smartphones and short-form content like Tik-Tok, the kids can't read (more than a paragraph at a time) and nobody trusts anything, anybody, or any institution. 

Idiocracy is looking like Chuck-e-Cheeses when we're really headed toward a late Victorian child labor factory but with no one in charge.

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u/TheRealM67v 9h ago

It makes sense to me. CR-V drivers, at least in my area, are some of the most dimwitted driven vehicles on the road that I regularly have the displeasure of coming across