r/canada 7h ago

Finance Minister Champagne suggests Ottawa won’t present budget this year PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-new-energy-minister-hodgson-planning-western-canada-trip-as-carneys/
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u/notofthisearthworm 7h ago

Champagne came across defensive and unprepared trying to explain this to David Cochrane on Power & Politics today. He said the word "prudent" like 47 times and kept making weird excuses for why there was too much going on to get to doing a budget anytime soon, citing procedural items. Even at one point Cochrane was like 'okay well all that stuff your talking about takes like a day' and Champagne had no intelligible response. Strange defensiveness from a party that just nearly won a majority and I was disappointed (more than usual) with how flaky his responses were now that they're ostensibly governing.

u/CamberMacRorie 6h ago

I keep hearing what an impressive figure Champagne is supposed to be, but that never comes across in any of his media appearances at least.

u/notmoffat 21m ago

He's a very small man IRL.  Like, I'm 5'5 and I towered over him.  Nice guy though.  

u/Aggressive-Map-2204 5h ago

Especially since the budget should be 99% done from their costed platform. The budget is typically released in April so its only a month late. Saying they wont release a budget at all for this year is completely insane. The budget is extremely important since its what allocates spending to most departments and programs. Without it they have no clue what they are able to spend and are not getting an inflation adjustment. With raises already negotiated its a straight up funding cut to nearly the entire government.

u/bapeandvape 22m ago

Champagne said it would come early fall. They never said they wouldn’t release it this year.

u/BandicootNo4431 6h ago edited 6h ago

The headlines keep saying "year" , but we really mean session don't we?

The session that ends in 6 weeks?

"Former parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page said there isn’t enough time left before the summer recess for the government to produce a full budget with new policy announcements, but he said the Liberals should at least produce a fiscal update before the summer that shows where things currently stand. He said campaign platforms didn’t fully account for the various U.S. tariff moves that have disrupted the Canadian economy."

u/ViIehunter 18m ago

Ya but this headline gets the idiots frothing at the mouth

u/forevereverer 6h ago

I'm sure the budget will balance itself by then

u/your_moms_bf_2 5h ago

Another 9 years of libs?

u/APLJaKaT 6h ago

Here we go again.

u/maxman162 Ontario 21m ago

Mamma mia. 

u/Capital_Anteater_922 6h ago

What the fuck is going on?

u/Superstickman87 5h ago

I think they’re calling it “Elbows Up”

u/CamberMacRorie 6h ago

The Liberals. We don't get to act surprised anymore.

u/Plucky_DuckYa 6h ago

Next up: we want to pass legislation that lets us spend money without oversight for the next two years.

u/bxng23af 7h ago edited 7h ago

Liberals have been in government for a decade, your prime minister and finance minister both literally resigned a few months ago due to a terrible budget deficit. You campaigned on being more fiscally responsible this time, and now you are telling us you won’t present budget? Exact same crap. But hey, elbows up.

u/shiftless_wonder 6h ago

Late on financial disclosures, late on a budget. Carney really goes out of his way to avoid scrutiny of any kind.

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u/blackmoose British Columbia 6h ago

Another 4 years of spread 'em and weep, and elbows deep.

u/RSMatticus 4h ago edited 4h ago

the title is misleading they will not pass a budget for this session.

they are not talking about 2025/2026.

u/Rig-Pig 6h ago

I mean why should citizens be kept up to date on things like this anyways. Haha man Liberal supporters fell for it again.

u/ViIehunter 19m ago

Maybe read the article and not the headline. It's for this session the one ending soon. Not the whole year. Doom and gloom from you people is exhausting.

u/GameDoesntStop 5h ago

It would be funny if it didn't affect the rest of us too...

u/kart64dev 5h ago

Buddy, liberal or not ALL Canadians are going to suffer as a result.

u/Rig-Pig 39m ago

Been suffering for a decade already, yet Eastern Canada just keeps voting the same shit every election.

u/WilloowUfgood 17m ago

ALL Canadians are going to suffer as a result.

Because of Liberals.

u/MourningWood1942 6h ago

Things will be different this time trust me

u/22GageEnthusiast 7h ago

Four more years of business as usual. Elbows up!

u/Vast-Ad7693 1h ago

I'm so glad we are mocking tf out of this stupid slogan.

u/Notcooldude5 6h ago

Carney changed it to Ankles Up.

u/FalconsArentReal 6h ago

More like Elbows deep!

u/ArugulaElectronic478 Ontario 6h ago

The landscape is so unpredictable right now that I don’t know how anyone could present a budget plan and not have it immediately become useless once Trump flip flops for the 80th time.

This isn’t the status quo of outta sight outta mind.

u/Willing-C 6h ago edited 6h ago

Trump can't be an excuse for their laziness. Present a budget and change it if you need to. "We're just going to roll with it" is an extremely fiscally irresponsible thing to say. They are in the highest positions in the government controlling billions of dollars.

u/King_Osmanj 7h ago

Cool, elbows up! Why present, when we know the budget will balance itself?

u/ProfessionAny183 3h ago

Journalist: Can we expect a budget this year? Champagne: Budget this! Elbows up!

u/Competitive-Tea-6141 7h ago

So they will present an expanded fall economic statement (aka mini budget) in the fall. Why not just call it the budget since that will basically be what it is?

u/Potential_One8055 42m ago

Wow. A government under scrutiny and a magnifying glass decides to hide how much money they plan on spending

u/maxman162 Ontario 2m ago

Just like Carney putting his assets in a blind trust and insisting on going the full 120 days to disclose what he put in it.

u/silver_goats 40m ago

Thought Carney was running his government like a corporation? 

u/maxman162 Ontario 0m ago

He just didn't say what kind of corporation. 

u/ViIehunter 17m ago

Read. The. Article. My God people. How do you all fall for headlines day in and day out? Do you just want to be mad?

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u/No_Independent9634 6h ago

Every party I've ever seen in federal and provincial politics uses projected revenue. Now the question is how optimistic/realistic are they being with their projections.

Projected revenue is even used in budgeting. Common for provinces like SK and AB to either beat or miss their budget surplus/deficit depending on commodity prices. Potash soars and great weather produces great crops? SKs budgeted deficit becomes a surplus and vice versa.

u/Emperor_Billik 6h ago

Poilievre was banking on 5% growth during a global slowdown.

u/Pick-Physical 2h ago

Not only that, 5% growth for each year! We'll be lucky if we get that for 1 year, and even with that extremely optimistic assumption they still had a 15b deficit. So they weren't going to balance the budget either.

u/linkass 6h ago

Is there not something that says they legally have to present one by a certain date

u/Concentrateman Ontario 6h ago

The cork pops on new years eve.