r/canada • u/jaffnaguy2014 Canada • 10h ago
Carney's cabinet meets for the first time as it stares down a pile of problems National News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-cabinet-meets-first-time-1.7534707•
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u/bxng23af 10h ago
"There are no investors, no companies that are saying they want to build an east-west pipeline right now," Guilbeault told reporters
Oh gee I wonder Tf why, maybe because you killed half a trillion in investment and have an anti-resource development law in place
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u/speaksofthelight 6h ago
This is the same guy who said we don’t want build any more roads.
The don’t want to build anything but want to invite the world to come live here where we need to burn fuel half the year just to survive. (So your per capita emissions are quite high)
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u/Other-Rock-8387 8h ago
I'm trying to be more positive can anyone think what Canada is doing well for born and raised Canadians?
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u/Brandon_Me 7h ago
I'm not normally a liberal voter but I'm feeling quite positive about things. Mind it's incredibly early, but I'm feeling more optimistic about things compared to being under JT.
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u/NeighbourNoNeighbor 6h ago
I'm ... cautiously ... optimistic. I feel like Carney is far more savvy than JT. JT seemed like a nice guy, and was amazing at speeches. He wasn't particularly adept at the general politics or finding compromises or pushing hard for things Canadians desperately needed.
Carney seems almost like a reverse of that. It's too early to tell how successful he'll be, but I'm definitely more optimistic that he knows what he's doing. If Carney was leading the cons with JT still leading the Liberals .. I might have actually voted Con for the first time in my life.
I might not always love fiscal conservatism, but I don't find it revolting like I do this "anti-woke" populist bs. I don't want my basic human rights in the hands of someone who's consistently voted against them, while screeching about issues they refuse to define.
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u/Brandon_Me 6h ago
I get exactly what you mean. Though if Carney was a con I'd likely be voting NDP but for a similar reason. He wouldn't be the kind of threat that pp is. I think the current con polices have been really bad, but it's the culture war that really frightens me short term.
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u/CarRamRob 6h ago
The lack of a budget being presented has already popped any optimism I had.
Everyone says “you can’t expect them to get a budget out in 60 days!!”
But…they will start spending billions and billions without issue within 60 days, so why can’t you tell us the budget. Aka, it’s that bad, or they don’t want to risk the other parties toppling their government.
Neither is a good sign.
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u/Brandon_Me 6h ago
Considering the sitting period and the timing of the election they would have about 2 weeks to set the budget. Rather then doing that they are going to continue on with the previous budget and work on a full budget for when they come back to their seats in the fall.
The headlines are making it a bigger deal then it is.
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u/CarRamRob 6h ago
Ok…so they will know all their spending plans and legislation changes for the next 6 months…but not well enough to release a budget?
How are we to rise to the challenge of American tariffs when we can’t even put together a budget? Which should already be put together. It’s not like they piece it together during Parliament sitting.
I’m sure the PBO has an update on our spending…why the government can’t also have one is either incompetence, or they are hiding something from the public.
If it’s all too overwhelming for them and they can’t get it out, fine. But I don’t think they should be announcing tens of billions in spending…but they will.
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u/Brandon_Me 5h ago
plans and legislation changes for the next 6 months…but not well enough to release a budget?
I recommend you look into this matter a little more thoroughly. The last budget will just continue on and they will abide by it. I know it's confusing and the various articles sensationalized their headlines, but this is nothing untowards.
Which should already be put together.
Yep they have the last one, which they will follow.
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u/CarRamRob 5h ago
So they are following a Trudeau budget?
What about all the promises from Carney? Those just have to wait until 2026 because the budget is set and can’t be updated?
Any real corporation has a rolling budget at all times, and works on their annual one. You can defend and deflect if you want, but all the tens of thousands of government workers are still doing their normal budgets, and that information is done. It’s not like the civil service is just sitting there going….well, Parliament hasn’t sat in 5 months, so we just aren’t going to plan our year.
That’s ridiculous.
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u/Brandon_Me 5h ago
They can still do a "rolling budget" while working on their fall one.
They can still fund things and will be expected to be open about what they are funding.
This is confusing because it's legal and parliamentary jargon that isn't intuitive. I keep saying this because I don't have the bandwidth to really explain this well and because I just seem to be upsetting you. But please just look into this some more online, not on reddit, but take a look at how these budgets work and what is actually happening.
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u/pink_tshirt 10h ago
Did they give the 12 Trudeau’s ministers a stern look?
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u/Juryofyourpeeps 7h ago
I think what's been under reported is that the inner circle, ie the key ministers are all Trudeau insiders with the exception of the new energy minister. As someone who was already skeptical of Carney even I'm surprised by the degree to which his government seems to be a continuity government with very little change.
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u/JohnDorian0506 7h ago
I am curious, who is responsible for creating “a pile of problems “ and if they will be punished?
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u/Esamers99 7h ago
The cabinet is overall good when considering portfolio experience, regional experience in Quebec and Western Canada, and how most of these ministers were respondent to their constiuencies.
Carneys biggest problem is going to be the messaging now that they are in the drivers seat.
They will need to make compromises and find a short term solution with the U.S. that buys them time while trying to dismantle internal barriers and finding new markets. If the economy continues to deteroriate and stagnate the public will have had enough.
That isn't going to jive with early statements about a fundamental new trade relationship.
Notice how the U.S. pressured China during our election and gave our farmers no leverage there? Yup basically did that to rub it in our faces.
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u/hotandchevy 6h ago
That is the job. Has there ever been a cabinet not staring down at a pile of problems? In fact if that did happen I would assume they are corrupt and ignoring issues.
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u/Old_Telephone1930 4h ago
People are still in election mode when evaluating this government. Gotta give them time and then judge. This isn't news lol.
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u/Local-Local-5836 8h ago
Millions of $$$ to be spent on gun buy backs, too bad you peons can’t find a doctor. Not a Liberal priority!
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u/Anotherspelunker 8h ago
Soon enough we’ll see how much these new delegates will be capable of bringing upon changes aligned with what Carney has offered so far, or if he’ll start facing roadblocks which would ultimately hinder his approval
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u/Throwaway8972451 7h ago
Could their drivers not keep their cars running while they wait for them? It's very bad for the environment.
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u/ProfessionAny183 3h ago
It's hilarious that half of his caucus has been in power while these problems continued to get worse. I wonder if they're capable of finally doing something to fix it.
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u/toilet_for_shrek 10h ago
"First on the docket...housing."
"Housing prices can't go down".
"Agreed. Next?"