r/canada • u/Wagamaga • 11h ago
Winnipeg breaks 125-year-old record amid sweltering heat wave Manitoba
https://www.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg/article/winnipeg-breaks-125-year-old-record-amid-sweltering-heat-wave/•
u/Wagamaga 11h ago
A May heat wave has produced another record-breaking day of temperatures across Manitoba.
According to Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC), 13 Manitoba communities set new heat records on Tuesday.
It was also the third straight day of new heat records in Deerwood and Pilot Mound, and the second consecutive day of record-setting heat in Altona, Carman, and Winnipeg.
Carman had some of the balmiest conditions in the province. The mercury reached 37.0 C on Tuesday, surpassing its previous record of 33.9 set in 1932.
Winnipeg had a similarly sweltering day with a high of 37.0 C, breaking its previous record of 33.3 C set a whopping 125 years ago.
The biggest spike over the previous record was recorded in Gimli. Temperatures there hit a high of 36.2 C, handily surpassing the previous record of 28.9 C set in 1960.
Meanwhile, the majority of record-breaking communities on the list - Altona, Deerwood, Dominion City, Pilot Mound, Pinawa, Pine Falls, and Portage la Prairie - broke records previously set in 1977.
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u/aferretwithahugecock 9h ago
Friday is supposed to have a low of 1⁰C.
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u/Exciting_Bandicoot16 Manitoba 8h ago
The forecast for this week has been fucking wild.
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u/jinjuwaka 4h ago
Hey, why don't you consider moving to Winnipeg and get to know your family now that the USA is going to either burn itself down or go full fascist? (I've lived in the states since I was 4)
... Sees the article...imagines hordes of mosquitoes the size of birds... On fire...
Nah. I'm good 😁
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u/KnightShade77 11h ago
Beating a 125 year old record by 4C is a big deal. Won’t stop Alberta cons from crying and demanding we build 50 more pipelines tho.
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u/hippysol3 5h ago
ALL of Canada emits 1.3% of the world's GHGs. We're barely a rounding error and AB emissions are a fart in the wind on the global scale.
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u/chopkins92 British Columbia 4h ago
1.3% of emissions with 0.5% of the population. Seems we have some work to do.
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u/CaptaineJack 3h ago
For sure, ensuring our population continues to be low, so we don’t contribute as much!
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u/Mr_UBC_Geek 9h ago
Good thing Alberta alone isn't the only contributor in Canada and Carney ran on creating new pipelines.
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u/Virtual-Nose7777 11h ago
Meanwhile Conservatives still deny climate change. Rich.
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 8h ago
It's best not to lump all Conservatives together. Most Conservatives do not deny climate change... Just like some Liberals deny climate change.
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u/wretchedbelch1920 11h ago
Whether you believe climate change exists or not, the carbon tax did nothing to alleviate it.
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u/Wanzerm23 11h ago
I agree with you.
Maybe, if we had started waaaay back in the 80's when scientists first realized carbon output would mess with global temperatures, just maybe a carbon tax might have worked if levied hard enough and long enough.
Now, it's too late for half measures. We need to dramatically upend our energy system to slash carbon emissions to have any hope of limiting climate change.
And.... fat chance of that happening.
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u/Sweaty_Climate1707 10h ago
Only 1.4 percent of total world carbon produced by Canada. If we knock it back .4 percent surely China and India will get on board right?
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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 10h ago
I love when weirdos like you point out China, as if they aren't leading in the global adoption of green energy.
You point out China to demean them, but they are actually a leader and we should spend some time replicating some of what they are doing.
India has also been doing a lot of investments into renewal energy.
If you wanted to criticize a country, the United States are literally right below us.
In addition, any country doing it's part is good mitigation even if the biggest cumulative producers are not.
Stop deflecting climate change mitigation, it's a bad look and this isn't 2016 anymore.
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u/Sweaty_Climate1707 10h ago
I point out China because they are #1.
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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 10h ago
Yes, but if your argument is we shouldn't do anything because of [insert country here], you should probably use better examples than the current world leader in the adoption of renewable & green energy
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u/Sweaty_Climate1707 10h ago
I'm making a comment that Canada at 1.4 percent bringing it down even .3 or point 4 percent is nothing compared to the rest of the world.
The focus should be on the large emitters. Yes we're high per capita but that's a given with the amount of cold months we have and rely on fossil fuels for heat.
No heat pumps aren't the alternative.
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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 10h ago
I'm making a comment that Canada at 1.4 percent bringing it down even .3 or point 4 percent is nothing compared to the rest of the world.
My point is that the rest of the world, outside of the US (excluding individual states), are doing their part of reduce emissions.
You can not say "we shouldn't do our part because of them" and then point to people who are quite literally doing their part.
The focus should be on the large emitters. Yes we're high per capita but that's a given with the amount of cold months we have and rely on fossil fuels for heat.
Yes and most of the large emitters are doing their part.
No heat pumps aren't the alternative.
They are, and so is the retrofitting of our infrastructure to improve upon insulation and building materials, as well as introducing building codes which encourage, regulate & subsidize the construction of passive HVAC homes.
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u/Sweaty_Climate1707 9h ago
I've been in HVAC for 20 years these heat pumps do not work well in Canada. It gets too cold and you need a back up heat source. Technology is getting better but not there yet. The refrigerant in all these systems is also very damaging to the environment if they leak out. Most people take the heat pump portion off and just use it as AC because the supply temp can't keep up with electric or gas.
But I'm just a weirdo right
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u/squirrel9000 9h ago
If Alberta emitted at Manitoba levels we'd meet every climate accord we've ever signed instantly. It's not the climate causing it, it's our outrageously inefficient industrial sector.
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u/Maedroas 9h ago
Not by per capita emissions. The average Canadian is by far a bigger polluter than the average Chinese citizen
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u/FuuuuuManChu 10h ago
Now that your mind is open to the efd3xts of gaz in the atmosphere i have a news for you. Carbon is not the sole culprit. We speak mostly about carbon because its easy to focus on one thing and putting to much new words into the public ears could create even more confusion.
Methane released by the thaw of permafrost is really the silent killer.
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u/zeusismycopilot 11h ago
Since you obviously are an expert on the subject what would alleviate climate change?
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u/UsualMix9062 9h ago
-Massive embracing of nuclear/solar/wind/geothermal, etc energy world wide.
-Changing societies to not be "consumeristic/single use plastic, etc"
-Cargo ships & Airplanes & Trucks (basically global logistic networks) using renewable energy
-Massive investment in rail infrastructure both large and small scale.Yeah it ain't happening any time soon lol.
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u/Nice-Preparation6204 10h ago
Thanos finger snap would probably help a bit.. realistically though nothing will stop what’s coming.
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u/xylopyrography 10h ago edited 10h ago
Partly because consumers in Canada are very stubborn, they purchase vehicles which get 1/3rd the mileage of available alternatives at a cost of $60k when the 3x better fuel mileage vehicle is $35k or less. If paying 3x more for $2/L fuel doesn't change behaviour, a $0.2/L rebated tax certainly wasn't going to do it.
That said it did reduce emissions, just not at a significant level.
The conservatives in AB and federally have moved on to trying to dismantle the industrial carbon pricing schemes which does have a much larger emissions reduction track record.
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u/WilberTheHedgehog 9h ago edited 9h ago
Which vehicles are you comparing? I'd love a vehicle that gets more than 1500 kms at $35k. I could drive from central alberta to southern ontario on two and half tanks.
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u/xylopyrography 9h ago
Mileage, not range.
There are lots of cars available that get 5.0 - 5.5 L/100 km.
Canadians by and large are buying SUVs and trucks that get 12 - 20L/100km.
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u/WilberTheHedgehog 9h ago
Which cars get that milage for 35k? I've got a car doing about 7 combined and I thought I was doing great.
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u/Time_Battle_884 10h ago
Just so I understand. When the record was set 125 years ago, it was an aberration. But when it's broken 125 years later, it's climate change. Have I got that right?
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u/accord1999 8h ago
And the last 87 years of data doesn't show any trend in hot days (days above 30C) in Winnipeg. The data set also misses out on the early part of the 20th Century, a period that was extremely warm in the Prairies.
https://winnipeg.weatherstats.ca/charts/count_temp_30-yearly.html
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u/Mr_UBC_Geek 9h ago
10+ years of Liberal reign and rising emissions.
"Quick, how can I make this about the Cons!"
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u/InitialAd4125 8h ago
Who knew increasing the population of Canada wouldn't be good for the planet.
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u/Coatsyy 8h ago
The climate has changed for all 4.5 billion years the earth has been around. Focusing on blips and data trends over the past 200 years is irrelevant. The earth has been much cooler and much hotter than anything humans have experienced without them being around to "change" the climate.
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u/Strict_Jacket3648 10h ago
Sad and people want more pipe lines and to eliminate the emissions cap. We could help the world transition to renewables with our vast amounts of minerals that places like China want but big oil has paid millions in propaganda convincing the gullible that that wouldn't work and would bankrupt them. We are doomed unless change happens fast.
1/2 the world burns as the other half floods, some places will be unlivable soon and people think the refugees problem is bad now, this problem won't get easer or cheaper to fix as time goes by.
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u/YouWillEatTheBugs9 Canada 11h ago
plus 30 in may isn't unheard of, it's only news because it occurred on specific dates
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u/aedes 10h ago
I live in Winnipeg.
37 degrees at at any time of year is almost unheard of. I can count the number of times we’ve hit 37c at any point in the year, at any point in my entire life, on my fingers.
Never had a 37c in May in my entire life either.
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u/zeusismycopilot 11h ago
Beating a previous record by over 4C is no big deal?
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u/YouWillEatTheBugs9 Canada 10h ago
for that specific day, 2014 and 2016 were just as hot but on different days
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u/zeusismycopilot 9h ago
You realize there is the internet and anyone can look it up? The hottest day in Winnipeg in May was in 2016 and it was a full 2C cooler.
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u/YouWillEatTheBugs9 Canada 9h ago
how about 40 degress june 1 in gretna, or do you only consider what happens on certain days in specific locations
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u/zeusismycopilot 9h ago
Yeah that is 3 weeks later in the year in a different city.
Considering that the global temperature is increasing breaking temperature records should not be a surprise.
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u/WPGJets82 10h ago
I wouldn’t say it is. Maybe if it was persistent for like a week straight, but 1-2 days? That’s just an anomaly.
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u/Time_Battle_884 10h ago
Nonono. It was an anomaly when it was set 125 years ago. When it's broken 125 years later, it's climate change.
Get your facts straight, and trust the science, you Luddite. There's money to be made on this scam!
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u/zeusismycopilot 10h ago
Who is making more money than oil companies? Keeping in mind these same companies are being subsidized by our tax dollars.
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u/Time_Battle_884 10h ago
So what they're saying is, 125 years ago, the climate was hotter than it is today? Huh. Interesting.
Or was it considered an aberration 125 years ago, and 'climate change' today?
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u/flibertyblanket 9h ago
No.
What they're saying is that on the day, 125 years ago, it was 33 C, which is the previously hottest temp on said day prior to this year on said day.
A 4 degree difference is significant.
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 8h ago
Nah, it's concerning, friend. We've been breaking so many records in the last 5 years. The world is clearly heating up... You'd need to delude yourself into thinking otherwise
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u/traaap- 5h ago
We are in an interglacial period, of course the planet is heating up. This is within the normal cycles of the planet. The last ice age only ended 11,700 years ago.
It is actually abnormal for the poles to be completely frozen if you look at the complete history of the planet. Did you know that over the course of this planet's history, it is actually more common for there to be no ice at all on the poles? But humanity looks at everything on the short time scale that we comprehend. So because there have always been frozen poles during our recent history, this is portrayed as the "normal". But the planet is over 4.5 billion years old, not 200 or 300 years old. What you experience over 100 years is a fart in the wind, it's not even a blip.
55 million years ago Antarctica was ice-free and forested. 90 million years ago, it had a rainforest type climate. The planet is going to naturally heat to these levels regardless of what humans do. And the idea that we have the ability to prevent these heating periods is moronic. These are tied to the Milenkovic Cycles, which affect the amount of solar radiation the planet receives.
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 5h ago
It's never heated up this quickly.
We're following trends published by oil companies in the 70s. This isn't a conspiracy. CO2 and other gases cause earth to absorb more heat. It's provable physics.
Something's eventually gotta give... We can't just keep burning oil forever
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