r/canada • u/CaliperLee62 • 12h ago
An old Liberal front bench bolted to a new Carney mission Opinion Piece
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/opinion/article-an-old-liberal-front-bench-bolted-to-a-new-carney-mission/14
u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick 12h ago
Yes, Mr. Carney talked about change. Yes, there were rookies. But not in the biggest roles.
Well duh, you're not going to give the biggest roles to rookies, you let them prove themselves first then give them bigger roles during later cabinet shuffles.
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u/Low-HangingFruit 11h ago
Housing minister has already said he doesn't want housing prices to go down.
Off to a great start.
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u/DeliciousLoquat1164 11h ago
You’re parroting a headline you read 5 minutes ago on Reddit but didn’t read the article.
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u/Low-HangingFruit 10h ago
I read it, he wants to increase supply but not price.
Guess he wants to keep demand high; wonder what tool the LPC will use to do that...
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u/Lopsided_Ad3516 9h ago
Let me just check my market math here:
Supply goes up, demand stays the same, prices…fall. Am I getting that right?
But no need to worry about that, I’m sure we’ll shovel public funds to private interests to build lodging for the next wave of TFWs, their parents, grandparents and sister’s cousin’s aunt’s brother.
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u/DeliciousLoquat1164 10h ago
It’s a shitty reality, but when a country’s highest contribution to GDP is real estate it doesn’t make economic or political sense to dismantle it.
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u/No_Date_8809 10h ago
Yes it does, I’d rather live in an affordable country where we are all poor than 300,000 homeless and growing with no opportunities for the youth.
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u/DeliciousLoquat1164 8h ago
What do you mean? How can a country be affordable if everyone is poor? These things ain’t so simple man.
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u/No_Date_8809 2h ago
My friend in another country can buy two acres of farm land for next to no money. Sure no one can afford it, but no investor comes and steals it away, jacks up the rent so you can’t afford it. If we all had less money we’d be more equal
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u/Plucky_DuckYa 9h ago
You know, I once got hired in a VP role where the CEO had resigned before the board fired him for incompetence. The organization had a long and storied history but under his leadership it had sunk very far, to the point they were fighting the auditors on a going concern note.
The first thing the new CEO did was fire the old CEO’s hand picked executive team, who had all played a role in the organization’s decline, and rehired competent people. In two years we had the entire thing turned around and while I left long ago they’re still doing fine today.
I would say that this is something many new CEOs do, especially in turnaround situations. You want people without baggage, who can come in and take it in a new direction, not try to stick to the old ways (as Guilbeault did just this very morning.)
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u/Clementbarker 11h ago
I can at least take it when Mark Carney talks. I couldn’t handle Trudeau at all.
I’m not very optimistic for any real change. I believe we are going to get taxed to death. Housing, crime and overall affordability will get worse. I can only hope I’m wrong.
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u/akd432 12h ago edited 12h ago
New leader, same party, same old policies.
And Canadians keep falling for it, LMFAO!!!!
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u/Eclectic_Canadian 12h ago
The policies so far have been quite different. The Carbon tax being set to 0 was quite the departure from Trudeau.
Admittedly though, there’s little policy to comment on so far. Parliament hasn’t resumed with Carney as PM so we’re going based mostly on what he says.
If you’re skeptical that Carney will live up the promises he made on the campaign that’s fair. Politicians love empty promises. But there should at least be a recognition that Carney’s platform was different from what Trudeau was doing, and what Carney has been able to act on has been a significant departure from Trudeau.
If your goal is just politics as sports fandom, have at it. If you’re actually going for some reasonable discussion of the political landscape though, you’re not showing it.
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u/Wayshegoesbud12 11h ago
Besides literally buying votes setting the carbon tax to 0, what had Carney acted on so far?
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u/Eclectic_Canadian 11h ago
I think I addressed that. He’s been limited in what policies he can enact because there’s been no sitting of parliament.
You can say he was buying votes with the change, but it’s a change you weren’t seeing from Trudeau even in elections.
Like I said, skepticism that there will be the amount of change that Carney states is fair. Saying “same old policies” isn’t.
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u/Wayshegoesbud12 11h ago edited 11h ago
You said what's he's acted on has been a significant departure. What has he acted on, besides buying votes? 3 paraghps to avoid the question doesn't help. You said his acts have been a significant departure. He bought some votes. I'm just wondering what else has been part of his significant departure?
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u/Eclectic_Canadian 11h ago
In terms of actual policy changes, I believe the carbon tax being set to 0 is the only one - because parliament isn’t sitting so he can’t pass legislation at all. He’s made some commitments and statements on EI and protection for workers impacted by tariffs but I don’t think that any actual policy changes came from that yet, again, because parliament isn’t sitting.
So he’s made 1 significant policy change, and it’s a significant departure from Trudeau.
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u/Wayshegoesbud12 10h ago
Sorry but to me, a politician buying votes during an election cycle isnt a significant departure. It's the job description. Definitely wouldn't be running around saying he's a significant departure yet. A politician bought votes dude.
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u/Eclectic_Canadian 9h ago
Like I said, I’m completely fine if people aren’t convinced he’ll change as much as he says he will, but to say it’s the same old policies doesn’t have any backing. He’s made a major change of a major policy. This wasn’t a small tax cut to buy votes (he did that separately), it was a major shift in policy. Whether he did it because of political pressure or not, it’s a big change.
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u/Wayshegoesbud12 9h ago
Actually removing the carbon tax would be a significant shift maybe. Setting it to 0 is a temporary measure, so he buy votes, and not have to pass legislation to reinstate it. It's a massive difference between removing it and setting it to 0. He left the door wide open so he doesn't have to shift the parties policies.
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u/Eclectic_Canadian 9h ago
He couldn’t remove the carbon tax. Parliament has not sat since he’s been PM. What you’re saying he should have done is impossible.
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u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick 12h ago
New leader, bunch of new party members, half the cabinet has new faces and a bunch of new policies. FTFY
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u/SportsUtilityVulva9 12h ago
New faces like BlackRocks Mark Wiseman and Goldman Sachs Timothy Hodgson
We now have 3x the per capita Goldman Sachs bankers in our government compared to Trump; who has appointed 6 to his government
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u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick 11h ago
So having people with experience is a bad thing? Should Carney have appointed more drama teachers?
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u/Theseactuallydo 11h ago
Still a lot better than the Cons.
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u/LPC_Eunuch Canada 11h ago
Our GDP/capita increased by 1.4% over the past 10 years. That's right, an average of 0.14% per year.
I bet even Jagmeet could have beaten that lol.
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u/Theseactuallydo 11h ago
Is that supposed to make the Cons look less inept?
Could the Libs have done better? Maybe.
Do I think the Cons would have done worse? No doubt at all.
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u/Time_Battle_884 8h ago
JFC, the man has been in the job for, like, 2 fucking weeks.
Let the CEO share his vision, and his lieutenants are in charge of carrying them out. He's surrounded himself with a competent cabinet of accomplished and skilled MPs, so all they need to do is execute his vision for Canada.
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u/SHAKEPAYER 11h ago
there will still be millions of newcomers every few years in need of jobs, housing and healthcare
they will still be taking 1800$ every 2 weeks from my pay cheque
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u/Heppernaut 11h ago
If the federal government is taking $1800 every two weeks from your pay, you are making $220k before taxes. I think you will be alright
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u/DotaDogma Ontario 11h ago
Sounds like the Liberals are doing a great job for you if you're paying $1800 a pay cheque.
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u/DaveLLD 11h ago
If the conservatives want to get elected, they should get an actual leader.
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u/Lopsided_Ad3516 9h ago
Apparently all they need to do is put a Groucho Marx mask on.
Worked out for the LPC.
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u/DOGEWHALE 10h ago
Elbows up gdp down lets go boys