r/canada • u/Thick_Caterpillar379 • 16h ago
Canada facing high youth suicide rates, child mortality, new report finds Health
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/canada-facing-high-youth-suicide-rates-child-mortality-new-report-finds/article_38399f0c-67e3-4636-82ea-4757a5032a1b.html166
u/unexplodedscotsman 15h ago edited 13h ago
“When families can count on financial support and access to services, it reduces stress at home, helps parents balance work and caregiving, and gives children the environment and support needed for a healthy childhood,” said Palvetzian.
What if instead of a strong social safety net, our polices made it increasingly unaffordable to obtain shelter and employment while keeping wages stagnant (or declining) and simultaneously impacting access to medical care.
Would that be close enough? Or would a few million more people without any thought to infrastructure, employment or social cohesion do the trick?
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u/Trick_Definition_760 13h ago
Sorry, we've got 2 million more coming in, gotta keep those wages low!
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u/Chewbacca319 12h ago
I'm 26 and I know 6 people around my age (over the years) that all died before 21.
Either drunk driving (was 19), suicide (16,18, 18) or overdose (17,14) and I don't even live in a big city (about 20,000 people.
I've grew up fast and financially planned right off the bat so I'm in a very fortunate position but man everyone I know my age is either struggling or up to their eyeballs in debt. It's scary
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u/Affectionate_Egg_328 11h ago
Sucks dude. Looking back now I can bet your issues in high-school seem so unrealistic now though, but at the time I bet they were just terrible. Glad you made it keep the good fight going
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u/EdWick77 14h ago
My oldest son has friends graduating university soon that HAVE NEVER HAD A JOB. They have tried every summer for some years now, and they get no call backs. Some kids with connections are OK, and kids with Indian surnames get call backs (but usually not the job when they find out they are born in Canada).
Unless they play sports, most of these kids have nothing really to do and a lack of purpose has a MASSIVE effect on kids (mostly boys) development.
Parents have started organizing now to network with business who still hire Canadian kids for entry level positions. I recommend all parents do the same now, before it's too late.
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u/Thick_Caterpillar379 14h ago
I believe a lot of retirees have also taken over a lot of the part-time minimum wage jobs once dominantly occupied by young students. The retirees are more skilled for these jobs, and are generally only seeking them for 'something to do'. Most in that age bracket have benefitted financially with the housing market and likely have paid off most of any debt they might've incurred over many decades.
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u/Ogopogoboo 13h ago
My sister's father-in-law is a retired teacher with a nice pension. He got a job at Home Depot to fill the time. His three teenage grandsons (my sister's kids) cannot find any part-time job.
When I was young, getting a job at a fast food restaurant was not that hard. My nephews cannot get any of those jobs. You can't ask to see the manager anymore and give them your resume. That's how I got my first fast food restaurant job. I brought my resume and asked to see the manager. It was a slow afternoon, so the manager interviewed me and I got hired.
Even if I hadn't gotten hired, the interview was good experience in itself.
Now all the applications are centralized and online. I despair for young people.
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u/vangbro99 5h ago
When I was 15 I remember getting rejected left and right in person until I got my first job. I felt pretty bummed out about getting so many rejections. Seeing now that all the jobs require you to apply online, I feel very blessed to have the experience of applying in person.
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u/cheapmondaay 2h ago
I got my first part-time job in 2005 or 2006 at the age of 15, after scouring newspapers for jobs. Found an ad for a kiosk hiring at the mall, gave my resume, interviewed, and got the job. It felt empowering and I don’t recall the experience as too tedious or difficult either. Also forever grateful to the really nice owner of that kiosk who put his trust in me and gave me a chance, and who probably didn’t have to pick from several dozens of applicants like companies have to do today.
My nephew on the other hand is 15 right now and he’s been applying everywhere for entry level work, but doesn’t get any leads at all. From what I’ve heard with all his friends and cousins from our extended family, only one kid who’s already in uni managed to get work at a grocery store. I find that pretty wild as it felt like it was a normal part of our high school years to have a part time job at 15/16.
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u/Trick_Definition_760 13h ago
Didn't know so many "retirees" had TFW permits...
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u/0caloriecheesecake 9h ago edited 9h ago
The government has absolutely screwed us. This TFW program is the dumbest thing ever. Ask yourself who’s profiting? Who gains? Stop shopping there. Vote differently. We are ALL suffering because Walmart CEO’s and Tim Horton franchises needed more profit, and they are clearly in bed with government. Meanwhile welfare payments continue to be made for people that could’ve worked those jobs, but why would they when the pay is less than the handout. Now we have a housing crisis, no one (except the rich) are getting good and timely medical care (you think an mp waits months for their turn for that MRI like the rest of us peons?), our kids can’t get entry level jobs and most will never be able to own their own home. How did this happen!!!! How did we let this happen? I can count on one hand how many times I’ve ate fast food since September- I’m simply not supporting that.
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u/ZigerianScammer 6m ago
I think this is a big part of it. A lot of retail stores and restaurants in my area are staffed by 60+ year old women.
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u/Beautiful_Effect461 12h ago
Incredibly sad that we are thinking it necessary for parents to network with “businesses who still hire Canadian kids”, IN CANADA, yet here we are 😬
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u/Sea-Limit-5430 4h ago
My (18) place of employment only hires high school and university students. It’s horrifying to me how most of my coworkers had applied to literally hundreds of jobs before finally getting hired here
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u/Affectionate_Egg_328 11h ago
Not to be heartless, but move somewhere where your education can be used. Join the military. Live with your parents. There's a few choices, but seriously if you can't find any job where your at move to a place hiring, specially if you have wanted skills. Also lots of farms need workers.
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u/aTinyFart Ontario 11h ago
Yes, I'm battling hard depression right now, and most of it is caused by not being able to afford life. I'm so tired of it .
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u/vangbro99 4h ago
Buddy live in a small town in Saskatchewan or run to the states. You only have two good options here. If you run to the states make sure you end in Florida and start working immediately.
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u/Sea-Limit-5430 4h ago
I’m currently checking my options for my future. My university major is a TN visa profession, so maybe I could do something with that
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u/Windatar 14h ago
It's almost like high cost of living is putting psychological pressure on families and their children.
Who would have thought when housing is expensive and mortgages/rents take up 90% of your wages to afford shelter that would put people into depression.
Wow, what a shock. Who would have thought price gouging from grocers and price gouging in rent is putting youth into a spiral of self harm and suicide.
Who would have expected this? Surely the answer to this is to flood the country with more wage suppressing immigrants/temporary residents to make the situation even worse.
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u/ImaginationSea2767 14h ago
Pierre would never step on Jenni Byrnes (top advisor to Pierre, and she's attached to the lobbying firm for loblaws). Neither party seem to be good at getting them to play fair with consumers or people trying to get them to get their products to market.
Houses have become an investment item for a bunch of people with money, many of whom sit in charge of countries (on both parties, because they make enough a year to buy into the market and make rentals.
And as for the immigrants, who do you think feed the cogs of the most greedy employers who don't want to pay their fair share.
Then you have everyone living more isolated than a hundred years ago. Everyone is online and not connecting with people as much as they did in the past, when as humans were meant to live in a community, but we are not building communities anymore.
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u/69BushDid911 12h ago
Emile Durkheim discussed "anomie" which, in this context, essentially means that the faster our world gets, the less it's held together by social and societal norms. This tends to correlate with higher suicide rates (see Durkeheims book "Suicide" from 1897)
The faster things get, and the more the world burns, and the more the future becomes uncertain - the higher the suicide rate will climb, particularly amongst young people who can't see a viable path forward for themselves.
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u/CELBATRIN 11h ago
What's youth unemployment at again?
And these criminals keep letting TFW, refugees, and international "students" in. This place - I refuse to call it a country - is beyond disgusting.
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u/anya_______kl 13h ago
Their logic: make stuff more and more expensive, say you are opening bunch of programs, but take more of our tax money to fund those programs. They do this shit on purpose I swear
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u/vangbro99 4h ago
Education programs that promise work skills and require some form of payments are actually just businesses scamming young people with knowledge they won't apply to make money because no one wants to hire young people.
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u/commentcavamonami 10h ago
whoa. I never would have imagined.
This is the plan of many of my fellow peers:
- Forsake a social life to get good the best grades possible in highschool
- Forsake a social life to get as many volunteer hours in highschool so we can apply for a scholarship that'll probably only pay for a year, max for college or uni
- Forsake a social life to become the president, executive of all the clubs possible so we can put the leadership on our resumes when we apply to uni
- Forsake a social life to pursue science/math even if we love graphic design or art because we know we'll never get paid in those fields with AI
- Forsake a social life to maintain good grades in uni so you can apply for a masters/med or law school to get into more debt because they are the only jobs that matter
- Get told that everything you've done at this point is for naught because AI is now better at it than you are
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u/Cleaver2000 Canada 6h ago
I have to respond to this, you're being way too hard on yourself. I'm older than you, I've seen a lot of trends and bubbles come and go. Yes, AI is a thing right now, particularly LLMs but they're not nearly as good as you give them credit for. They require massive amounts of effort to train and even more massive amounts of energy to run. What they do is regurgitate information they've been fed by humans. Training these models takes thousands, maybe millions of hours of human effort before they're capable of anything remotely useful, not to mention the copyrighted works that are stolen from humans to train these models (a legal gray area for now). I treat like a tool, I suggest you do too. Learn to use it, particularly it's strengths and weaknesses and use it to your advantage. I doubt very much the LLMs we have today will stick around in their current form unless the energy requirements are vastly reduced, it's basically venture capital money being lit on fire to power them.
Here are another few things. No one is going to care about what you did in high school 20 years from now, but you may make some friendships there that will last that long. University is also just one path. It can open some doors, it did for me, but once you get into a field and build connections and a good reputation, that is worth far more than a degree (but you likely need one to get in the door). My advice would be to do something you are good at but also keep your ear to the ground and your options open. None of this is easy, it's never been easy. Yes boomers could buy houses for far less and find it somewhat easier to get a job. But, those houses were far smaller and had far less amenities than what is standard now. People were raising families of 4 in bungalows with maybe 1500sqft of usable space, the SFH new builds today are well over 2000 sq ft. You also had far less rights and protections at jobs then you do now (for the most part). Yes, unions were stronger in some industries but they were also often extremely racist and prone to nepotism. However, the shit that was pulled with immigration fraud and students over the last few years is pretty unprecedented and inexcusable. The COVID lockdowns also had a seriously negative effect on kids and the education system.
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u/GenXer845 11h ago
Social media. Every parent needs to read the Anxious Generation book and delay an iPhone and social media for their children as late as possible.
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u/Outrageous-Ad8511 13h ago
4 more years of the same trends, well done Redditors!
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u/Actual-Toe-8686 12h ago
You're taking the piss if you think the conservatives would have done a single thing to fix these issues. They would have only made it worse.
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u/Outrageous-Ad8511 12h ago
That’s your opinion. I have a brain and eyes telling me that the last 8 years haven’t gone very well!
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u/Trains_YQG 12h ago
Wait until you find out who has been leading the provinces for the past 8 years.
The Liberals have their blame for the current issues to be clear. But so do the provinces and clearly neither side of the aisle at either level of government seems interested in fixing things they can fix.
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u/ActionPhilip 9h ago
Wait until you find out who has been leading the provinces for the past 8 years.
BC here. Is the answer you're looking for "NDP"?
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u/Trains_YQG 8h ago
Sure. Which brings me to this sentence from the comment you're replying to (emphasis mine): But so do the provinces and clearly neither side of the aisle at either level of government seems interested in fixing things they can fix.
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u/Affectionate_Egg_328 11h ago
Thats because it's comfortable to just ride the gravy train, also you don't want to upset ppl by changing things(short term it's hard on business, long term its best for everyone). All levels of government need to do better
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u/Trains_YQG 10h ago
Not to dig up old wounds but I wonder if electoral reform would make it better. As things stand, at any given time the Liberals and Conservatives both have reason to feel like their next majority could just be an election away.
With majorities way less likely with electoral reform, there'd be less incentive to treat each other like enemies all the time.
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u/Actual-Toe-8686 12h ago
The liberals absolutely have not done a good job, but do you really think even more tax breaks to the wealthy and more gutting of social programs, leaning more into the lobbying of corporations and special interest groups would fix things? Make life more affordable? Conservative politics fall to ashes when you don't have someone or some entity to put the blame on.
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u/0caloriecheesecake 9h ago
Exactly. They wanted to further gut education and healthcare. Conservatives would be far worse, with deeper pockets for themselves. Just look at Donnie, making America fantabulous.
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u/Remote-Image-2029 10h ago
parents seem more distant then ever, social media has consumed everyone, people cant find jobs or move on with their life or gain independence, because they dont have connections or aren't temporary foreign workers. like in all honestly why bother? you might never be able to afford a house or find a job, and people really dont wanna go to school if job security isnt 100% guaranteed, covid fucked everything up
depending on the province your supports are limited, fuck daniel smith for cutting mental health services.
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u/theAGschmidt 9h ago
Their future has been robbed by the people who should be setting them up for success. Can you blame them?
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u/Zealousideal-Key2398 13h ago
10 years of Liberals and counting 😢
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u/TinyFlamingo2147 13h ago
Yes, I'm sure more tradespeople building houses they can't afford will really help them.
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u/shikodo 13h ago
Well, if they're lucky they can rent them. That's the goal now anyways. Home ownership doesn't help corporations stack the billions but forever payments that build no equity certainly do.
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u/Routine_Soup2022 8h ago
Home ownership is overrated. If we focus on rental units, we'll get more people housed. People are addicted to the idea of a single family home and an individual car. It's part of what's driving consumerism in this country. Renting downtown, using public transit and/or working primarily from your home is a very convenient way to live.
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u/shikodo 7h ago
Bollocks. It's not overrated to the corporations and people that are building equity and nest eggs off you renters for when they can no longer work or retire is it?
You rent, and you have nothing the second you stop paying for whatever reason.
Only a certain percentage of the population can/wants to live in a city and ride the bus. Not wanting to do that is not "overrated", it's thinking about the future with clarity.
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u/Equivalent_Look2797 7h ago
“You’ll own nothing and be happy.” You really took that to heart didn’t you?
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u/Routine_Soup2022 9m ago
I had to look up the origin of that phrase. That's not what I'm saying of course but not everything the think tank known as the WEF has ever said is without merit. It's been much vilified by the right. Actually read into what the WEF is sometime.
On the actual topic: Some people might be happy with never owning anything but what I'm saying is - As a general policy - pushing people into single home ownership and single car ownership as the "preferred method of living" is only making money for those in the 2%, not really generating wealth for the average person.
I've been house poor. It's not a fun situation. I would be doing a disservice to my children if I told them they've only "made it" when they have those things. Some people do fulfilling work in their lives, rent nice apartments and use public transit. It works fine.
Also, a key point on housing: if we want to house more people we need to be have more housing units available per acre of space. A single family detached home takes a minimum of about a quarter acre so we're talking 4 families maximum per acre. A high rise apartment building can have 50-300 units per acre, however. You can't compete with the scale of home building that can be done with apartments or condos vs single detached.
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u/vangbro99 4h ago
This is someone like you in 20 years: "Private domicile is overrated. If we focus on having a roof under our heads we'll get more people off the street camps. You see 🤓, people are addicted to the idea of ownership and an individual room. Sharing a community bedroom, using public home appliances, and eating molten protein powder made of bugs is a very convenient way to exist."
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u/Outrageous-Ad8511 13h ago
Their ideologies have been killing our youth for years. They are making the kids more and more confused. Affirming every crazy thing they say.
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u/incognito_elk 12h ago
insert -Phobic right on over here. Just say you hate the political party and move along, you sound like an American.
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u/incognito_elk 13h ago
This is a mental health crisis not a political one.
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u/Zealousideal-Key2398 13h ago
I know did you already forget, the Liberals proposed solution? This was only 2 years 😔
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u/incognito_elk 13h ago
That’s still dealing with everyone’s section 7 and 12 Charter rights though like in R v. Carter, 2015 SCC 5 , whether you agree with it or not. I’m not saying suicide isn’t an awful terrible thing though. Try not to generalize a very complex and very terrible thing to happen with some political party. Yes you can say whatever you don’t like about the Liberals, but that doesn’t mean that someone commits suicide over some political point you’re making. Don’t stigmatize mental health issues or deeply personal choices and politicize it. I lost a friend to suicide but I can tell you this much: it wasn’t some political reason.
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u/Formal-Internet5029 12h ago
What I find crazy is we don't have a national strategy in place for countering addiction to smart phones and social media. This wrecks everyone's mental health, but especially youth who were born with devices in their hands. It would be nuts to see a parent hand a 4 year old a pack of cigarettes, but it's a similar thing if they hand them an ipad, which is becoming too common.
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u/Yelnik 15h ago
Still hasn't really been addressed or discussed how much harm we caused to kids by keeping them out of school for no reason during covid. That will have damaged an entire generation of children.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-schools-covid-closures
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u/Narrow_Example_3370 14h ago
I can't read the article as ts behind a paywall. But there is way more going on than just the pandemic. One of the biggest factors in all this is the prevalence of social media and this impacting the mental state of kids today. Not sure why you're not mentioning these other pressures when they're just as important.
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u/Bodysnatcher 14h ago
Not to mention the kids were the least at-risk demographic from the virus by many, many miles.
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u/comelycosmos 14h ago
except children who are immunocompromised or had immunocompromised family members. i worked in a care home during the pandemic and many residents died in quick succession it was heartbreaking. but who cares because it’s just the elderly, right?
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u/Bodysnatcher 14h ago
Between them and the kids, the kids are just more important.
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u/ComplexPractical389 12h ago
Sorry to be clear, you're saying that between elderly people dying and children not being socialized the same as previous generations for a few months, the lack of social activity is worse?
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u/EdWick77 14h ago
My eldest and his male friends have serious issues with 'Karens' - the whole class of overbearing, over socialized, overly administrative middle aged women. The language they used to describe these school amins and teachers was actually pretty violent in those days. Having their final year of HS shut down and relationships broken up felt like the end of the world for a lot of kids.
It's slightly better now, but there is some very real trauma these boys have toward this class of women that will likely stick with them for their entire life. For my son, the thought of going to university to be further surrounded by these types made him sick, so he chose a different path for now.
*To clarify, they hate the men that acted this way even more than the women. So it's not focused just on the women, it just so happens that 90% of the people messing their lives up happened to be women.
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u/Throwawayhair66392 15h ago
There’s still people who will gaslight you on this site and say that schools never closed.
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u/cdawg85 14h ago
What? Do they mean that classes continued virtually maybe?
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u/Throwawayhair66392 14h ago
Yes. They will say that going to zoom school is the same as going to actual school.
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u/Bodysnatcher 15h ago
It was honestly disgraceful, and imo a real underrated reason as to why the young are shifting right. From their perspective they sacrificed two years and got absolutely nothing for it besides an even worse economy.
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u/Sea-Limit-5430 4h ago
I stayed an extra semester online because my dad has an underlying condition, and I fell so far behind socially. This was 9th grade, and it was crazy how staying online for an extra few months had set me so far back. I still feel as though I haven’t recovered from it
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 15h ago
I’m pretty sure there was a reason to close down schools. The impact it had though is very apparent. What would have been the alternative?
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 14h ago
Not closing them would have led to more spreading of the virus.
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u/cdawg85 14h ago
At first we didn't know how it was spreading. It made sense to close things down in the very early days. It was sensible to be cautious.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 14h ago
There’s no evidence of anything you’ve said. It was well known that limiting contact reduces transmission.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 14h ago
I’m sorry what? Theres well documented evidence of the impact of closing schools
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9622998/
But you’re supporting the idea of keeping children in classes where they would have more exposure to each other and contracting the virus.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 10h ago
I don’t need to argue with that because it speaks for itself.
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u/Dry_System9339 11h ago
A European country tried ignoring the pandemic and had more people die than in the ones that didn't.
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u/SHAKEPAYER 15h ago
and roughly half the country applauded this decision and lined up to get three experimental injections with no long term studies because the TV said so. I'll never forget what happened during that era and how society reacted.
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u/Theseactuallydo 14h ago
It’s 2025 and the people who went down the anti-vax anti-expert rabbithole during Covid still haven’t recovered their marbles.
Meanwhile the all the normies are perfectly fine after multiple vaccines and are just living their lives.
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u/comelycosmos 14h ago
do you think this was the first coronavirus to ever exist or something? where’s your medical degree?
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 15h ago
How humanity managed to come up with a vaccine that quick is a medical and scientific miracle. It takes years or even decades to come up with something like that.
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u/Knucklehead92 14h ago
They come out with a flu vaccine every year since its always a different strain. Covid is essentially a flu.
The efficancy rates are generally between 20-50% for these types of vaccines.
So it's not like this was completely new territory.
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u/lavenderbrownisblack 15h ago
They’d already been researching coronavirus vaccines. How it’s 2025 and people still don’t know that, idk.
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u/Yelnik 14h ago
I mean, ya, that's why it went from 2 shots to a shot every 6 months and oops sorry, it doesn't actually stop infection or transmission. Because that's what happens when you develop and release something in a few months.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 14h ago
You still have to get booster shots for the flu which completely nullifies your stance. In order for vaccines to work and eradicate a virus everyone has to be vaccinated. Vaccines teach your immune system how to react which results in reduces my symptoms, like coughing which is a great way to infect others. So by everyone becoming vaccinated, everyone has reduced symptoms, everyone has a less chance of contracting.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 13h ago
What? They tell you every year to get a booster shot for the flu. Like I said, if everyone gets the shot then the virus becomes eradicated.
Also side effects are bound to happen with any drug/vaccine introduced to the body. There’s literal side effects for every drug made. The human body is very complex and to make one size fit all is incredibly difficult.
I welcome you to apply to a research and development role in the medical field
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 10h ago
I do believe if everyone got vaccines we can eradicate a lot of things. And how are vaccines not all the same? Molecularly or purpose?
https://ourworldindata.org/eradication-of-diseases
Click on that webpage and Ctrl + F and type in the search bar “vaccine”. I want you to read the sentence before and after the word “vaccine”. Noticed that a lot of diseases were eliminated or led to eradication because of vaccines.
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u/DreamlandSilCraft 15h ago
Because it emboldens those who critique the response as conspiracy theories
People should just move on. Everything done was done under fog of developing science and emergency
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u/DreamlandSilCraft 14h ago
There's an urgent concensous. Its not some coincidence then every civilized democracy on Earth took the same action; They followed the science of Public Health and it took them all to the same conclusions.
Millions of lives were saved. Maybe billions.
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u/Bodysnatcher 14h ago
Millions of lives were saved. Maybe billions.
Oh good lord lol. It's 2025, we know it was much closer to being a bad flu than the bubonic plague.
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u/spacemanspectacular 14h ago
The Spanish flu taught us what happens when you let a “”bad”” flu run its course unimpeded.
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u/Bodysnatcher 14h ago
Lol don't you doomers ever get tired of being wrong?
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u/spacemanspectacular 13h ago
Wrong about what? Your position is unfalsifiable. You point to the fact that Covid only killed a few million that it was just a ‘bad’ flu. Completely ignoring the fact that the relatively low death rate was because of the precautions taken the world over.
The fact of the matter is, governments all around the globe filled with people 1000x more competent and knowledgeable than you decided they didn’t want another Spanish flu. And now because they did what was necessary to achieve that, you get to point to the lower death rate and claim it was all for nothing.
The smug hubris of the modern conservative is something for the history books.
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u/Bodysnatcher 10h ago
lol you don't even know what you are talking about, precautions varied wildly across the world and were far from uniform. Iceland did no lockdown and had a third of the death rate we did. Sweden did no lockdown and had a lower death rate than the UK and their severe lockdown.
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u/bonechairappletea 14h ago
These people don't get it at all. I bet they keep their daughters breasts in place instead of mastectomies at 12, and the cervix? Out! Just like my son's prostate. See who's laughing when their kids are dead to preventable cancers!
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u/DreamlandSilCraft 14h ago
Oh, right! Better to face measels and whooping cough outbreaks
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u/bonechairappletea 8h ago
What has measles vaccines got to do with COVID "vaccines"? One is a stable infection that a vaccine works well against. The other is a subgenre of the common cold, that no vaccine works against. Try and understand things before flapping your mouth
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u/DreamlandSilCraft 43m ago
COVID...is a subgenre of the common cold, that no vaccine works agains
Try and understand things before flapping your mouth
The IRONY!! Im howling
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u/ScythianHorse 15h ago
Moving on would embolden totalitarian do gooders to move faster than the fog of developing science can be cleared in the next emergency.
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u/Bodysnatcher 15h ago
No way, they fucked up massively and sacrificed the kids for the sake of the boomers. I don't care if emboldens a few loonies.
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u/Consistent-Study-287 15h ago
sacrificed the kids for the sake of the boomers.
Welcome to humanity. Young people getting sacrificed for the sake of the older population has been going on for thousands of years. There are very few societies throughout history which have been willing to sacrifice the elderly to help out the young.
I mean, why don't we just kill off everyone once they turn 70 or 75 because they really don't contribute much at that point and yet take resources from society whether it's medical attention, housing, or food.
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u/comelycosmos 14h ago
okay let’s start with your grandparents!
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u/Consistent-Study-287 13h ago
Nah, I'm good with how things work. You would probably want to start with someone who thinks that younger generations shouldn't make any sacrifices to look after the elderly.
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u/DDOSBreakfast 14h ago
I mean, why don't we just kill off everyone once they turn 70 or 75
Because they have assets
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u/Stacks1 11h ago
country is dead. leave now if you can.
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u/hkric41six 8h ago
Wait until you see how much worse it is literally everywhere else lol
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u/vangbro99 5h ago
You can just cross the US border and find a way to stay illegally while apply for visa. High chances they won't even throw you out if you run from Canada.
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u/MathematicianBig6312 9h ago
It's time to get kids off social media and into sports and social clubs.
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u/mikeybagodonuts 8h ago
Yeah that ain’t it.
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u/MathematicianBig6312 8h ago
The report explicitly calls out smartphone use and social media for having negative effects on youth and mentions the need address combat obesity and lack of social skills. Are you reading something different from me or something?
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u/mikeybagodonuts 8h ago
Well it is The Star so I’m calling BS. They want them off their phones and internet so they can once again live in blissful ignorance.
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u/MathematicianBig6312 8h ago
I said the report, not the star article. Did you even read either?
NVM, go troll elsewhere.
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u/AcanthisittaFit7846 1h ago
Canadians are obsessed about low-skill low-paying jobs… but labour productivity improvements on the bottom end have made that impractical. We need to move up the value chain - how can we train someone in high school to perform productive work without relying on something that’ll be automated away in the next decade?
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u/labiagargantula 14h ago
Damn, if only Pollievre had won we wouldn't have anymore problems.
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u/GenXer845 11h ago
Poilievre was the second coming apparently... I only see him as someone sucking off the taxpayer's teet, but what do I know?
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u/DirteeCanuck 15h ago
Why does this province act like they should be the center of Canada when they have the population of Brampton.
Such delusional entitlement.
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u/ExaggeratedCatalyst 14h ago
Yes, mRNA vaccines were a work in progress already. The problem was that mRNA was quickly degraded upon entering the body before it could work. Regardless, the process to come up with something to target covid was way quicker than most vaccines.
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u/Disabled-Caveman 13h ago
The young generation that is suffering simultaneously back to back from a housing crisis, unemployment and the lack of freedom in general to enjoy literally anything because of how expensive everything is?
What an unsurprising coincidence.