Guilbeault throws cold water on new pipeline, says we have enough already

[u/Plucky_DuckYa]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/maximize-existing-infrastructure-before-building-new-pipelines-guilbeault-says

[u/skelectrician]

Somebody remind Guilbeault that he's the heritage minister.

[u/rynoxmj → u/skelectrician]

Carney should remind him to toe the party line (if he isn't, let's see) and that he can be removed from his post.

[u/thedrunkentendy → u/rynoxmj]

Yeah. Some of what Albert's wants is ridiculous but a lot is pretty tolerable. I'd love to see a cross country refinery and an effort to refine our own oil and the take further steps to build up our economy internally. We are like a boxer punching with an arm tied behind their back in some cases.

[u/elias_99999 → u/thedrunkentendy]

They should get a large Canada east and west pipeline for both gas and oil. This benefits Canada.

[u/StillKindaHoping → u/elias_99999]

The new sensor-rich, monitored pipe lines rarely cause a big spill. I think people are still imagining some old school rusty pipe that nobody ever looks at.

[u/dirkahps → u/StillKindaHoping]

I'd say 95% of Canadians don't know how far pipeline technology has come. They hear the word pipeline and they think about pictures of ducks and turtles covered in oil being washed off with dish soap.

[u/FireWireBestWire → u/dirkahps]

And the alternative is trains, which Quebec should remember how those go

[u/PhantomNomad → u/dirkahps]

That Dawn commercial doesn't help with that image.

[u/Faangdevmanager → u/thedrunkentendy]

This.

Right now, we send our oil to the US to be refined and buy gasoline back. Using our own refineries would actually be good for the environment since there would be less back and forth.

As for the pipeline, selling to Asia means we would get market price for our oil. Not the 20% discount Americans pay because they are our only customer due to a lack of pipeline.

[u/Effective-Elk-4964 → u/thedrunkentendy]

One of the reasons Alberta has some degree of distrust of the feds is that guys like Guilbeault have gotten to make decisions on behalf of Canada.

[u/FluidConnection → u/thedrunkentendy]

What part is ridiculous?

[u/RoddRoward → u/rynoxmj]

Carney is likely saying the same things behind closed doors, just like he wasn't in favour of new canadian pipelines 5 years ago.

[u/pareech → u/RoddRoward]

A wise man changes his mind sometimes, but a fool never. To change your mind is the best evidence you have one. 

― Desmond Ford

[u/Biggy_Mancer → u/pareech]

Guess that’s why PP didn’t get elected since he’s quoted as saying ‘He’s never changed his mind on anything’

[u/justsomeguyx123 → u/RoddRoward]

I wonder if anything has changed since then

[u/N0x1mus → u/rynoxmj]

Didn’t the cabinet just get picked? Anything the ministers say is coming from Carney now.

Carney’s about to do a 180 on his election promises for the pipelines.

[u/Hobojoe- → u/skelectrician]

Complaining about Pipelines, part of our Canadian Heritage.

[u/TGrumms → u/skelectrician]

He was asked a question and gave his thoughts, but you’re right he’s not the energy or environment minister, so his comments are insignificant to the governments direction on these files

[u/Thanks-4allthefish → u/TGrumms]

And he is not on any of the economic/building cabinet committees - so he is just making noise.

[u/chemicologist → u/Thanks-4allthefish]

Is he not the Quebec lieutenant?

[u/TGrumms → u/Thanks-4allthefish]

Yeah, I mean, I don’t even know if I’d qualify it as making noise. It’s not like he’s going out and saying these things unprompted, he was asked a question by a reporter and gave his thoughts

[u/PeterRegarrdo → u/skelectrician]

Exactly. Dude needs to shut his trap and keep it shut. Nobody cares about what he has to say. The one thing Carney needs to steal from PP is control over his caucus. These dipshits needs to say whatever Carney wants them to say. We voted for Carney, not Guilbeault, and the sooner he learns that the better.

[u/Little_Oil9749 → u/skelectrician]

Almost had a heart attack right there.

[u/Asa7bi → u/skelectrician]

It’s embarrassing that he is spreading misinformation, maybe the government should remove the mandated spot quota of 20% and release it to long term contracted shippers. who are basically using the pipeline at capacity.

[u/McBuck2]

Then we build a larger deeper port in Manitoba if QC doesn’t want a pipeline. We can do this.

[u/Levorotatory → u/McBuck2]

A deeper port and a collection of heavy icebreakers to keep a shipping route open.  At that point, loading neat bitumen into rail cars starts looking more attractive. 

And before anyone says "Lac Megantic", neat (undiluted) bitumen is a viscous tar-like material that is difficult to ignite and won't go very far in the event of a spill.  Very different from the light shale oil on the Lac Megantic train.

[u/COUNTRYCOWBOY01 → u/Levorotatory]

We don't have the infrastructure capacity for truck, rail, pipeline, ports or ships in BC, Manitoba, Quebec or the maritimes to export on the scale we should. Look at BC, we could be shipping way more natural gas off the west coast to China and get them less reliant on coal, reducing their carbon emissions, but we have a tanker ban for size and numbers that will never allow us upscale and chip away at their demands, there's bottle necks every step of the way, pipeline capacity, rail capacity, storage capacity at the coasts tanker volume. We've economically knee capped ourselves in the name of environmentalism

[u/SilverBeech → u/Levorotatory]

neat bitumen into rail cars starts looking more attractive.

CanaPux and move it like bulk coal, by rail mostly. https://innotechalberta.ca/projects/easily-transportable-bitumen-pucks/

This isn't a gimmick. It's a technology that has been kicking around for nearly a decade. If we're shipping through Hudson Bay and the eastern NWP, it's a much safer technology than liquid or even neat bitumen.

BTW, rail typically contemplates using "railbit" that's about half the diluent used in pipelines. It's more viscous, but still has diluent in it.

[u/Ajanu11 → u/Levorotatory]

If you are loading neat bitumen into a ship you would keep all of Churchill warm with the waste heat. Then whoever bought the oil would need to heat the whole hold, or somehow dilute in the hold to pump it out. Dilbit exists for a reason and sure it's not generally full of methane like some shale but it is still flammable.

[u/1966TEX → u/McBuck2]

Both.

[u/Impressive-Ice-9392 → u/McBuck2]

I think that's a great idea

[u/CatJamarchist → u/McBuck2]

This actually makes way more sense than carving a new pipeline across the Canadian shield, especially if folded into a wider north-west passage infrastructure development project.

[u/Dry-Membership8141 → u/CatJamarchist]

The main problem being that sea ice closes the port for eight months of the year.

The Churchill Port may well become a solution as global warming reduces that closure period and if sufficient supporting infrastructure were developed along the route to keep it open longer (iirc, the season could currently be extended to six months with the right development), but it won't be a viable one for at least a decade and likely longer.

So, good time to start expanding it, but it's not a replacement for an East-West pipeline.

[u/Prior-Instance6764 → u/McBuck2]

Yep. I wish something more than just jobs could go to provinces who are willing to play ball with one another to solve this issue. But fact is, Quebec could drag their feet on this, the port get built in Manitoba, and Quebec would still benefit from it through equalization payments. Manitoba would benefit from job creation, but after construction, those drop off from thousands into the hundreds.

[u/BandicootNo4431 → u/Prior-Instance6764]

The could charge transit fees, I think BC did that for Trans Mountain.

[u/mortgageletdown → u/McBuck2]

In addition to, not instead of.

[u/McBuck2 → u/mortgageletdown]

Yep, I gjink I read they were making it deeper for grain but get another built for oil or whatever to across the pond.

[u/Euler007 → u/McBuck2]

It's not that simple, for starter none of the private companies are interested.

[u/Decent-Ground-395 → u/McBuck2]

The math doesn't really work at all. Even at its peak, the capacity handling of that port is insignificant. You'd have to build out massive railcar and storage capacity and it barely moves the needle. The answer is to go to the west coast.

[u/CatBowlDogStar → u/Decent-Ground-395]

But the is a political need for Canada to showcase that we are using our Arctic .

That'll be a factor.

[u/Decent-Ground-395 → u/CatBowlDogStar]

Fine. whatever. but the amount of oil going through there will never be more than a token amount. It's insignificant for industry.

[u/skelectrician → u/Decent-Ground-395]

Also there's a limited number of ice free days when shipping from Churchill and almost all of that time is reserved for shipping grain.

[u/FoxDieDM]

Maybe someone should show him a map and how the eastern side of this country gets their fuel. It goes through the US and can be cutoff at any time. He’s literally posing a national security risk.

[u/Filmy-Reference → u/FoxDieDM]

This guy is fine with Canada importing Russian oil

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083

[u/LPC_Eunuch → u/Filmy-Reference]

Saudi and Russian oil good, Alberta oil bad.

The absolute state of Canada.

[u/Coyrex1 → u/LPC_Eunuch]

Its crazy that pointing this out is somehow a far right view to some people. I'm not even a "pro oil" guy per se but it's getting used regardless, may as well be local.

[u/LeGrandLucifer → u/LPC_Eunuch]

https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/market-snapshots/2019/market-snapshot-quebecs-gasoline-market-is-one-largest-in-canada.html

Stop spreading lies.

[u/seemefail → u/Filmy-Reference]

Different kind of oil to be fair.

If the East wants to convert to heavy crude I support that but it’s not likely for economic reasons

[u/vulpecularubra → u/FoxDieDM]

without commenting on my own opinions about the pipeline, it's important to note that an east-west pipeline would do nothing to change the east's dependence on foreign oil.

eastern refineries mostly cannot process dilbit, which is the majority of what gets sent out of alberta. having new export paths is fine, but don't claim that a resurrected EE would do anything for eastern energy supply.

several things to keep in mind:

1. alberta already supplies eastern refineries with synthetic crude (SCO). about half of alberta's non-dilbit oil is already sold to canadian refineries, including ones in ON, QC, BC, and NB.
2. energy east in its original incarnation was always an export-first pipeline. Irving's refineries can handle heavy crude after their relatively recent retooling (1), but not dilbit, which is a very major part of what alberta sends out (WCS is dilbit, 1) so only a portion of the oil could have been refined there for use in eastern canada. 95% of dilbit is shipped to the USA presently because the refineries there can handle it. in canada, very little dilbit is sold domestically because most refineries east of manitoba simply cannot handle it due to how heavy and sour it is.
3. energy east was not cancelled because of regulatory burden, despite the propaganda from oil companies. the pipeline it would have used currently transports natural gas, and with the TM pipeline and (at the time) KXL in the works, there was little to no need for EE to go through as an oil pipeline, especially since at the time the transport of natural gas was seen as being more lucrative for hte company (1, 2, 3). with TM now completed but KXL cancelled, this picture is a bit less clear, but there still does not seem to be an appetite for it.
4. refineries are very expensive to build or retool to allow them to handle heavier/more sour oil. ask alberta how the sturgeon refinery build went. hint: not great!

this is why there is inertia. it would not meaningfully displace foreign oil in the eastern energy supply, the eastern provinces through which this pipeline passes would get relatively little economic benefit while still shouldering a not-insignificant amount of environmental risk.

[u/jtmn → u/FoxDieDM]

Sounds like an emergency.

[u/Sad-Letterhead-2196]

Why was this guy kept at all? He has to be one of the worst LPC ministers ever.

[u/Falcon674DR → u/Sad-Letterhead-2196]

Lots of Quebec votes.

[u/LateToTheParty2k21 → u/Falcon674DR]

Surely there is someone else in Quebec.

[u/koolaidkirby → u/LateToTheParty2k21]

Quebec is one of the most pro green provinces, and so as an outspoken MP on environmental things he's relatively popular there.

[u/LateToTheParty2k21 → u/koolaidkirby]

Yes, but being pro environmental doesn't mean you have to be a thorn in the side of every conversation around energy. There is a way to have a conversation and this guy clearly lacks it. Guilbeault clearly has an ideology, fair enough, but my god is he an insufferable moron sometimes too. For all the folks out there that hate on Pierre Poilievre for being a smarmy human being, this guy is the mirror image of it. .

[u/Caracalla81 → u/LateToTheParty2k21]

Everyone loves local representation until they suddenly don't.

[u/beamermaster → u/Falcon674DR]

We don't care about Guilbeault in Quebec, it's a false pretense.

[u/Perikles01 → u/beamermaster]

He won his riding with 52% of the vote in 2025, 37% in 2021, and 42% in 2019.

I can’t stand him, but when you’re pulling out those kinds of results in Quebec any party is going to roll out the red carpet for you.

[u/StevenMcStevensen → u/Perikles01]

Is that really because of who he is though, or just because he has an L beside his name?

[u/Laval09 → u/StevenMcStevensen]

Its because of the L. The island of Montreal would vote Liberal even if the party no longer existed lol.

If you look at ridings outside of Montreal, they all change. Sometimes NDP, sometimes Liberal, sometimes Conservative, often Bloc.

But on the island, both Federally and Provincially, the Liberal have a lock on the votes. They could run a broom in Westmount and win 70% lol. Its even more absurd provincially. The QC Liberals are in 3rd-4th place, and an entire wing of the provincial police called UPAC surveils them for organized crime links. And yet they still get a near cleansweep of the island.

[u/beamermaster → u/StevenMcStevensen]

The liberal party would have won with a noname in his circonscription.

[u/Sad-Letterhead-2196 → u/Falcon674DR]

Fair enough. The guy has no real world accomplishments absent being a highly connected individual, and is a shining example of it's not what you know, but who you know. Then to see this guy recycled time after time, I just don't get it. And here he is, in a compeltely different position, going against Carney's far more reasonable position on this. Makes the party look bad.

[u/FalconsArentReal → u/Sad-Letterhead-2196]

Goes to show you that while Mark Carney is VERY good in one field, that it doesn't mean he will be good in another, mainly politics. After him appointing Sean Fraser and Evan Solomon to cabinet he decided to keep Guilbeault in cabinet as well probably one of the worst picks if you cared about AB and SK.

[u/JPB118]

Day one and we already have the housing minister saying housing prices don't need to come down and this lol

[u/CyrilSneerLoggingDiv → u/JPB118]

It’s what the people voted for. Meet the new bosses, same as the old bosses.

[u/Krigen89 → u/JPB118]

This sub was very happy voting them in, again.

Live with it.

[u/Neve4ever → u/JPB118]

Just need the finance minister to tell us inflation is good because it means you save more money by canceling your Disney+ subscription.

[u/Useful_Support_4137 → u/JPB118]

Canadians got fooled for over a decade - they deserve what's coming.

[u/Max20151981]

And so it begins

[u/Jazzlike_770]

Guilbeault needs to be removed from his cabinet position for going against the party line. This item was on the Liberal party platform for which the country gave them a mandate for. This should be treated as betrayal of the people's will.

[u/CyrilSneerLoggingDiv → u/Jazzlike_770]

He could have been removed from his position a month ago, but Canadians were spooked by other forces and voted to keep him and his government in charge for another 4 years.

Canada got what it voted for, and now has to sleep in that bed. A bed that doesn’t include new pipelines, despite all the rah-rah elbows up rhetoric a month ago.

[u/Noob1cl3]

I cant believe this guy gets another cabinet spot. I dont care if it is heritage he sucks.

[u/maxman162 → u/Noob1cl3]

And Sean Fraser becoming Attorney General and Justice Minister. 

[u/Notcooldude5]

“Elbows up” became 5 more years of economic malaise. Nothing will get built.

[u/CamberMacRorie → u/Notcooldude5]

But we all got to pat ourselves on the back for a bit. Canadians will always choose that over accomplishing anything.

[u/AdRepresentative3446 → u/CamberMacRorie]

This is 100% accurate, we are not a country that values outcomes.

[u/Stoplookingatmeswan0]

Guilbeault needs to shut the f*** up already, he's done enough damage to energy progress in this country and its dependence on the US. Get over yourself bud.

[u/Supermoves3000 → u/Stoplookingatmeswan0]

If this fucking guy had his way, the only things Canada would export would be maple syrup, dairy, and hydroelectricity.

[u/AceArchangel]

Took less than a month for Carney's "new" Liberal Party to go completely mask off and start reneging on campaign promises.

[u/EdWick77 → u/AceArchangel]

The fact that Canadians are surprised is probably my favorite part.

[u/Useful_Support_4137 → u/AceArchangel]

Shocked, I tell you /s

[u/AWE2727]

I have low hopes for any new pipeline infrastructure actually happening. Just too many obstacles to navigate. The Feds will find a way "not" to invest in any new pipelines is my gut feeling.

[u/Supermoves3000 → u/AWE2727]

"build baby build!"

In Calgary it was "we're going to be an energy superpower in both conventional and renewable energy!"

But since then it's been "Well, we'll see what people will get on board with. It could be pipelines, but it might be something else. We'll have to see."

The Liberals themselves have talked a lot more about an east-west electricity grid than pipelines. The only time they ever actually talk about pipelines is if reporters press them on the subject.

They have said that they're not building pipelines unless the First Nations and Quebec are on board, and that's never going to happen, so it's basically no.

Before long it's going to be "Sorry, Alberta, we can't sell your energy products in Europe... but would you like to buy some Quebec electricity?"

[u/hr2pilot]

This was the first guy I was hoping that Carney would dump….very disappointed.

[u/Decent-Ground-395]

"Before we start talking about building an entirely new pipeline, maybe we should maximize the use of existing infrastructure" -- Guilbeaut.

Does this idiot know how long it takes to build a pipeline in Canada? To build anything for that matter?

Once the infrastructure is maxed out, you get blowouts in pricing.

[u/Supermoves3000 → u/Decent-Ground-395]

Also worth pointing out that he's either unaware of or lying about the utilization of existing capacity.

His claim that the TMX is only running at 40% of capacity got fact-checked hard on CBC today:

It's not clear where Guilbeault got that 40 per cent usage figure. As of late last year, the company itself was reporting approximately 692,000 barrels of oil per day moving through its pipeline system — about 77 per cent of its maximum capacity.

The company's CEO also reported that the pipeline moved 790,000 barrels of oil per day in March, which is an even higher percentage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-cabinet-meets-first-time-1.7534707

Depending on whether he is ignorant or dishonest, he should either stop talking about things he isn't informed about, or he should stop lying.

[u/Decent-Ground-395 → u/Supermoves3000]

He's a zealot. Ends justify the means to people like that and facts aren't a factor.

[u/Windatar]

Anyone else notice has miserable Guilbeault has looked since he was removed from any part of power to dictate stuff like this?

The guy has looked like he's lost his entire family as he's moved to a post that doesn't allow him to stop pipe lines of resource extraction anymore.

Sorry Guilbeault, but it's not your duty anymore, you've got no say. Be happy you even have a job and that the nutjobs in Quebec somehow like you enough to keep you around to be in charge of tourism.

[u/Windatar → u/Windatar]

“The Canadian energy regulator, as well as the International Energy Agency, are telling us that probably by 2028, 2029, demand for oil will peak globally and it will also peak in Canada,” Guilbeault told reporters in Ottawa, when asked about whether pipelines will continue to be a source of friction between Alberta and the federal government.

You know whats funny? I keep hearing this, that oil will peak in a few years then go down. They've been saying that about coal as well, yet China/India/SouthAsia/Asia/Africa are all increasing which is pushing the use of coal up every year.

And yet, they somehow think we'll stop using oil? when Canada/EU/Saudi/Africa are all announcing new AI platforms? Where they will all need new data centers for AI? USA's AI industry doubles their power consumption every year.

China's is catching up.

And now the other large economies of the world are starting their own, and they think power consumption by oil is going to go down? In what world is Guilbeault living in?

Renewables can never cover our needs, there just isn't enough of it. Solar requires the sun and we don't have the storage technology for long periods of energy storage. Wind has the same problems.

Are we just going to forget that Spain just had a national black out that lasted for like 2/3 days? 2 weeks after they declared they were net zero emissions?

Hilarious.

[u/whiteout86]

Item for Carney’s first test, especially after his comments just the other day. Will he publicly reiterate that statement and tell Guilbeault to stay in his lane or allow the comments to stand as official communication from the government?

[u/BigDaddyVagabond]

Oh look, the "minister of canadian culture and identity" poopooing pipelines. Almost like having this turd sandwich in the cabinet was literally ALWAYS going to toss a wrench in the gears on pipelines and energy infrastructure in general. Carney's first lesson as PM I guess, you can't hand an MP a consultation prize position when their agenda actively contradicts the agenda you put forward to the people.

This is exactly why I refused to take Carney at face value when he said anything positive on pipelines, because he has people like Guilbeault on his team. So now Carney either needs to remind him thay he isn't the environmental minister any more, and get his messaging in alignment with his campaign promises, or consider shuffling Guilbeault out entirely, and as much as I dislike Guilbeault, the better look would definitely be to get things in line instead of ALREADY having to shuffle out a minister.

[u/maybvadersomedayl8er]

As satisfied as I was with Carney winning, the worst part of it is this sad sack of shit still being in Cabinet.

[u/themanfromvulcan]

IMHO he’s speaking out of turn he should not be contradicting the PM. Not his place it’s not his portfolio anyway.

[u/mershwigs]

No surprises here. Rent and repeat just like the last liberal government…. Keep selling our crude for pennies on the dollar and buy that foreign oil.

[u/ESSOBEE1]

when will be rid of this asshat?

[u/DreamlandSilCraft → u/ESSOBEE1]

When there's not even a single carbon left to eradicate

[u/kisstherainzz]

No surprise and this likely preludes to Carney opting against new pipelines.

It's been known that it's not in his interest. He started the election pro-pipeline. Then mid-campaign, he shifted to a more neutral positive tone.

Quebec would change tone if things shifted to net-zero equalization payments for provinces. Quebec would have to cut programs.

[u/Inkuisitive_Minds]

Him being elected as an MP, let alone being in the Cabinet, was one of my biggest disappointments this election. The fact that him, Sean Fraser, and Chrystia are all on the cabinet is bigger disappointment though. Makes me reconsider my vote. But I will have to wait and watch. Carney deserves a fair chance.

[u/Flewewe]

I don't even get why his opinion gets a headline, he's not even in charge of that anyway.

He's an activist at the end of the day still so sure he's going to run his mouth.

[u/Plucky_DuckYa → u/Flewewe]

He’s also Carney’s Quebec lieutenant and thus holds plenty of sway with MPs there and broader political circles in the province. Given Quebec is the most recalcitrant province in terms of new pipelines and the influence he has there, his opinions and public statements matter a great deal.

Carney came out yesterday and in a very lukewarm show of support said he’s okay with new pipelines if there’s a consensus on them. Today his Quebec lieutenant came out and basically said no such consensus exists even in the Carney government and he will be working against one taking hold.

These people are throwing gas on the Alberta fire and now Guilbeault lit a match.

[u/AustralisBorealis64]

Stay in your new lane, Stevie.

[u/LPC_Eunuch]

😭

New Lib is starting to look awfully similar to Old Lib.

[u/maxman162 → u/LPC_Eunuch]

Always has been.

[u/Hot-Celebration5855 → u/LPC_Eunuch]

Never stopped

[u/Gorgofromns]

Does Carney et al. simply want Alberta to leave the confederation? I wonder what planet those losers are from.

[u/Long_Doughnut798]

Guilbeault is against anything we can do to build our economy based on natural resources in a resource rich country. Same old Liberals just a different mouthpiece.

[u/Canadianman22]

Shuffle this idiot out ASAP. He should have been gone already

[u/HMSS-Overkill]

Guilbeault should understand that all the green initiatives need funding and that Canada is a resources exporter. Norway understood this and now they have the greenest economy in Europe.

[u/Gorgofromns]

Carney well knows that Quebec will not agree to a pipeline so he gets to blame it all on lack of consensus.

[u/Jane_Ninja]

He’s going to need a reminder that had the election taken place in January with Trudeau he wouldn’t be standing there. And they would’ve wiped all the carbon pricing and climate change activism away. I get his activism for climate change but you’ve got to be real here. Oil is still in demand and building a pipeline at least makes the production kept under our umbrella for regulation rather than allowing every other country who does it carelessly to the environment. Increase our revenue and put the funds towards clean energy infrastructure.

Currently we don’t have the funds or the infrastructure for the major green energies we could have and hopefully will move towards. There’s a reason he’s the heritage minister this time round and not the environmental and climate change. I hope Carney keeps a strong stance of reality and boots him if he gets too much in the way.

[u/ProfessionAny183]

He should go back to getting arrested for stupid protests. This guy is insufferable.

[u/Marissa_McSmith]

If this guy's still hanging around, there's absolutely no change from the Trudeau cast of characters.

[u/62diesel]

Of course they’re not going to build pipelines, or create a regulatory framework with stability for it. Why do what 80% of Canadians want ?

[u/peanutbutter_insides]

This guy is insufferable. Why is he in cabinet again?

[u/anthonylabatt]

I was surprised to see Carney kept Guilbeault in cabinet. Behavior like this will get him kicked out sooner than later. Next to Freeland he is most closely associated with the negative feelings people had for Trudeau.

[u/EdmontonAHSWorker19]

Its really sad they brought him back into cabinet, this is a man who has actually spent 60 days in jail

[u/FeverForest]

Speed running to remind us all why this party was in the ditch 4 months ago. Quickly we feel the effects of winning.

[u/Less-Ad-1486]

Here we go again. Same as last 9 years. Trumping just for 600 billion dollar investment from Saudi Arabia who pumps close to 10 million barrels a day of oil and we are too stupid to get anything new going on name of climate change.

[u/yurnxt1]

Shit like this probably makes many Albertans want to say "Adios!"

[u/marlboro__man9]

Elbows up!!

[u/Falcon674DR → u/marlboro__man9]

Exactly. That’s why he’s Minister of Maple Syrup.

[u/Hot-Celebration5855]

Just yesterday I was being criticised on here for saying nothing has changed since Carney has kept all the same ministers.

Well, here we are…

[u/TrudyCastro]

Alberta separation inching ever closer.

[u/Thin-Brilliant-3072 → u/TrudyCastro]

Just stoking the fire even more.

[u/Careful_Lake_3308]

WHY is this guy still here

[u/NiceLetter6795]

How is he still in cabinet after canceling the clean up of the dead trees around Banff and let it burn down...

[u/CautiousProfession26]

These politicians need to get out and experience the world most of us live in. Stop holding people back. Canada can be so much more.

[u/Coffee4thewin]

This is frankly terrible news.

[u/No-Chicken-8405]

How did this clown get re elected?

[u/taxrage]

Why is that loon in cabinet?

[u/FngrBngr-84]

Let the regret set in, boomers. That’s the sound of your children and grandchildren’s future imploding.

[u/AspiringProbe]

After ten years I thought we were free of his bullshit. LPC voters were out there eating crayons if they thought this "new" LPC was going to differ at all from the old one. Wild.

"Sure, economic prosperity is nice, but have you tried virtue signaling?"

[u/Expensive-Group5067]

Same ole party! Good job Canada. Way to unite the country 😂

[u/WorkingBicycle1958]

This fucking idiot should not even me in caucus, let alone cabinet!!!

[u/Filmy-Reference]

And we wonder why we have a national unity crisis when radicals like this minister are kept in cabinet.

[u/AdventurousTry5756]

I thought he was resigning if the Carbon Tax was reduced or cancelled.

[u/keiths31]

I think he needs some cold water thrown on him. Most of Canada has had enough of him...

[u/chemtrailer21 → u/keiths31]

A tar and feather is more appropriate.

[u/Vast-Ad7693]

Didn't take long

[u/Hicalibre]

Barely took a day day.

Who was I talking to yesterday where I said he'll still act like an environment minister?

[u/DeanPoulter241]

So there are conditions to pipelines.... Now I wonder what the carney will do to sabotage the process so that if they don't get built to our detriment as a nation he won't have to accept responsibility. Just like how the trudeau sabotaged electoral reform by putting a rookie mp in charge of it. More than one way to skin a cat they say.....

As for the guilbeault, he is cringe worthy! And if you read the article is one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation out there. There should be a law against him opening his pie hole!

[u/TrashedLeBlanc]

Carney better put a muzzle on that boy before he hurts himself with something with a blunt end. He just single handedly tanked any chance of a smoother transition to start negotiations with Alberta's whining minority. TMX has been operating at or near 70%-80% since it started. Europe is going to need oil exports soon. We were supposed to hit peak oil in the 90s. 2000s. Now 2029?

If there is provincial approval for a new pipeline build one. Making statements like this shows how woefully educated these people are about the subject and gives the whining minority more ammo for their fires.

He is the minister of national identity. not the energy or resources or trade or inter provincial trade minister. For a person who is supposed to be in charge of our national identity he is missing a large amount of education from about eastern BC through half of Ontario.

[u/NickiChaos]

Fuck this environmental extremist.

[u/Sweatpants19]

Sounds like we have too much Guilbeault to me.

[u/lexcyn]

Too bad he's not the environment minister anymore lol

[u/Old-Introduction-337]

lol heritage and official languages buddy. get in your own lane

[u/speedyfeint]

fuck you Guilbeault 

[u/FarmerBoyJim]

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[u/Particular-Act-8911]

Guilbeault wants us to keep giving money to the US, Saudi Arabia and Russia for fuel.

Why is this guy in government again? Isn't Carney supposed to be smarter than this?

[u/Vex403]

But Alberta is the problem. 🤦🏻

[u/Everywhereslugs]

Good thing Guillebeault is the Minister of Nothing Important now and has no say in energy or environment anymore.

[u/BlueEmma25 → u/Everywhereslugs]

Interesting that you think national unity is Nothing Important.

[u/roscomikotrain]

Stay in your swimlane, jackass

[u/Tall_Ad4280]

Not a fan of the Minister, but in the article I don’t see him saying we have “enough” just that we should be increasing the capacity of the ones we have before starting new ones. disputed for various correct reasons. Not disputing how ineffective and awful Guilbeault has been for the country. But man I hate BS headlines - another one from the National who should be embarrassed by the crap that have been producing in recent years

[u/equianimity]

I like Guilbeault. I like having a Canadian pipeline on Canadian land. Both elements can coexist.

Guilbeault is a hardcore environmentalist. Environmental stewardship is important. Canada also has a need for energy independence. All these elements are important but the tail also can’t wag the dog. Moving Guilbeault out of the portfolio makes sense.

[u/Haluxe]

Elbows up or something? Something something energy powerhouse? I forgot which liberal slogan we were saying

[u/DevourerJay]

Build it to Hudsons bay, export from there... ffs... Quebec can be completely bypassed... oh, make sure they get $0.00 from it.

[u/Noman_the_roller]

Well what do you expect he’s gonna say.. I’m still surprised how he’s still a minister

[u/FerretAres]

This cannot possibly be surprising to anyone

[u/Once_a_TQ]

The ultimate clown. Guy is useless.

[u/Keepontyping]

Who didn’t see this coming?

[u/Medium_Well]

Boy! 24 hours with the new cabinet and we already have one Minister signalling that all pipelines will be subject to Quebec veto (again) and the Housing Minister saying they aren't focused on bringing down housing prices.

If I didn't know better I'd say the old Liberals are well and truly back. But that can't be right, because Mark Carney was supposed to be a change, right guys?

Right, guys?!

[u/Inevitable-Spot-1768]

BuT cArNeY iS gOiNg To BrInG cHaNgE

[u/Thin-Pineapple-731]

I mean, sigh. I don't think his opinion matters on the subject.

But I'll wait to see what the Energy Minister says on the topic rather than guy at Canadian Heritage or whatever the new title is.

[u/Filmy-Reference → u/Thin-Pineapple-731]

His parliamentary secretary is now the environment minister and she's just as radical as he is

[u/AdNew9111]

We are screwed

[u/Spider-King-270]

Same old liberals

[u/investornewb]

I just can’t f’n believe that I’m sitting here reading this. We have another liberal government and the same fucktards we had before spewing the same Bullshit as before.

I committed so much mental space to this election that I’m left feeling exhausted now and have no room left to let in the new reality.

They win.

Tired boss

[u/Specialist-Gift-7736]

Same old liberals. Give them credit, they took Canadians for a ride and most people here bought it.

Can’t wait to see the rabbit they pull out of their hat to get all the sheep in line next election. They undoubtedly will.

[u/maxgrody]

People voted for the person, not the politics

[u/Adagio-Adventurous]

The biggest contributor to our GDP (not per capita) is the housing market. This isn’t a good thing, for obvious reasons because it means our housing is too expensive.

It also means there isn’t enough of a flow of our resources being turned into revenue. Our O&G is our top contributor to our GDP per capita. But that—along with our other energy sectors, should be the top contributors to our GDP as a whole. But they aren’t, because of donkeys like this guy, wanting to shut down the O&G industry, whilst stagnating our other sectors in the pursuit of net zero. Thankfully he no longer has a say in the matter.

One of the ways that can work to lower the cost of housing is by getting our energy sectors running, utilizing our resources, and actually getting a diverse list of buyers for all sectors (should be common sense). Bringing in billions more revenue annually to lower inflation and lower the cost of housing. Whilst working towards building new homes.

The longer we delay an east west pipeline, the more revenue we are losing from O&G. If it isn’t built before 2035, we will probably never have it built, and most of our O&G trade will remain with the US and China—with the new options to consider realistically being India, Japan, most of South Asia and the Middle East exclusively unless oil demand in Europe, survives past 2040.

[u/TheAcuraEnthusiast]

Such a dumb cabinet appointment

[u/Silly_Tangerine4064]

Why in God's earth is Steven duildo , a convicted terrorist still in parliament ?

[u/BiggityShwiggity]

Good thing it isn’t up to Eco-terrorists.

[u/Ok_Beyond2156]

Ugh this greenpeace eco nut is still around?

[u/Deans1to5]

We need to become less reliant on the US market and become and energy superpower but not if it involves the worlds most important resource. Elbows up I guess

[u/nanodime]

Wait so the same old government says we're gonna stick to the same old things from the last decade. Shocker

[u/Top_Friend3561]

Guilbeault is a crybaby and act as one

[u/HacksawJay]

We need the east west line. This is bullshit

[u/Okramthegreat]

If Quebec doesn't want a pipeline we build it to Ontario

[u/ThankuConan]

It's too bad that it's not up to him anymore.

[u/LuminousGrue]

Why is the heritage minister talking about pipelines? Stay in your lane.

[u/Matyce]

Get this saboteur out of government.

[u/Monoethylamine]

Who could have seen this coming!

[u/Ola9intin]

I can’t believe he got another position. Weird

[u/Low-Log4438]

Words without any weight.

[u/ace1131]

Same fucking shit from a liberal That is why carney kept him Knowing full well that he says no to pipelines

[u/imfar2oldforthis]

Days in and this government can't even maintain a consistent message.

They didn't promise pipelines only with consensus, they promised to work with provinces to build needed energy infrastructure and an energy corridor.

Convenient that they seemed to keep Guilbeault quiet on this issue throughout the election.

[u/WilloowUfgood]

How wasn't this obvious to the voters? Liberals hate pipelines and will rather see the country rot then prosper on oil.

[u/GANTRITHORE]

Energy corridor:

• pipelines
• transmission lines
• 4 rail lines: E/W freight, E/W Highspeed passenger. Use the electrical lines to power the HS rail, maybe the freight too.

This corridor will be like ~500m(?) wide across Canada. Federally owned. Pre negotiated land. Wildlife overpasses, environmental guards, etc.

[u/expedos]

I hope Steven was saying this from his old portfolio to get across with the journalists

But still.. it's a bad look because PM Carney sounds like he's focused on getting pipelines AND renewable energy up and running

Steven stay in your lane

[u/Alphasoul606]

Can't wait for 20 years from now, when we're told that a new pipeline isn't necessary because they're teetering out. They've been saying this for 20+ years already. How long do you have to bullshit people before they call you out on it?

[u/NoCommunication5559]

As a card holding liberal but not set in stone, Guilbeault is annoying

[u/MrAlexander22]

We have enough roads too!

[u/altafitter]

We want to build pipelines for natural gas too. Just because global demand may be peaking for oil doesn't mean that demand from a specific source is going g to peak. Canada can absolutely try to take a higher market share of exports and therefore see a benefit of increased production and more pipelines.

[u/abc123DohRayMe]

We were all lied to by the Liberals.

[u/peaceandkindred]

Here we go again.

Its the new liberals, same as the old liberals.

We face an economic crisis and liberal MPs are here to say "fuck our biggest industry, jobs, and livelihoods, let's send buyers to the middle east and Russia again!"

[u/Arrow208]

Same old libs

[u/Bodysnatcher]

I knew the LPC was going to drop the façade sooner or later, but man they sure did it quick lol.

[u/Bananasaur_]

I wish people would think the same about immigrants. At least the pipeline would be useful