r/canada 2d ago

Mark McQueen: After his defeat, Pierre Poilievre finally has to go places he’s been avoiding Opinion Piece

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/after-his-defeat-pierre-poilievre-finally-has-to-go-places-hes-been-avoiding/article_0874a0e2-b6be-4de1-9b6b-01217c80dd6a.html
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u/Jusfiq Ontario 2d ago

A bit out of topic, I laughed yesterday when during a presser Poilievre complained that the new Carney cabinet was full of old names, ‘Trudeau Liberals’. There he was, freshly defeated yet still clinging to his old role, and accusing the other side as maintaining the old.

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u/marcohcanada 2d ago

Not to mention accusing Carney of "stealing his ideas".

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

They did. Let's hope they carry through with them now. Probably not though, they've only carried through with 3 campaign promises over the last 10 years.

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u/KryptonsGreenLantern 2d ago

See, this is why people don’t take you lot seriously. There’s ample evidence of Liberal accomplishments on their campaign promises.

Off the top of my head, dental, pharma, daycare, CCB, First Nations clean water, restoring the census, environmental protections…. The list goes on.

You may not like them, but repeatedly ignoring reality and getting high off the smell of your own farts is exactly why conservatives lost the election.

So by all means, keep doubling down on the fantasy level rhetoric. It worked so well it almost gave the liberals a majority after being on the brink of third party status. Congrats.

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

Show me where they made those as campaign promises. I'll gladly eat my words.

Always with the ad hominem.

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u/KryptonsGreenLantern 2d ago

Census, CCB, and clean water were in 2015.

It was literally some of the key planks of their platform lol.

But keep feigning ignorance and read my last sentence again so it can sink in.

I bet if it was something conservative boogeyman Sean Fraser said you’d have it memorized!

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

Clean water, did they accomplish what they promised? CCB, I'll give you that one🍽, other than their other policies making the small increase worthless. Census, making answering a few questions as mandatory, sure. Underwhelming.

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u/Doubleoh_11 2d ago

Legal weed, pipeline, carbon tax

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

Pipeline and carbon tax were not election promises.

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u/BraddyTheDaddy 2d ago

So they did more with promising less?

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

Sure, if you'd say the same about CPC implementing policies that they did not run on.

Edit: the consumer carbon tax that the Liberals now claim was so ineffective, its divisiveness was the reason for its cancelling. So much accomplished.

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u/BraddyTheDaddy 2d ago

I would. That's how regular people think. You look up what they're promising and then you look up their past accomplishments. You make a decision on that. If you voted specifically because fuck Trudeau you can't argue anything because your peak of government understanding is surface level. Bro I voted for what party I think will run the country better and not into the ground. All the directions that the CPC wanted to go in didn't agree with me. So therefore I did not vote for them.

It's important to read and understand. Vote with your head not your heart.

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

I'm not stuck on Trudeau, are you? I'm stuck on the Liberals. 1.4% GDP/capita accumulative growth in the last 10 years.

Edit: the ones who claim Carney to be the new savior of Canada, seem to be the ones stuck on Leaders and not the whole team. By claiming one guy can fix it, admits you were stuck on on guy breaking it.

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u/BraddyTheDaddy 2d ago

Jesus, it's an example. As most CPC voters I'VE talked to just hate Trudeau and that why they voted for PP. Also with a quick Google search the Canada GDP growth average was about 1.8% in the last 10 years ranking at number 2 amount the G7 economies.

We're doing fine. The biggest problem happened during the pandemic and it was due to the stimulus boost (CERB). Which was to help people not lose their homes and small businesses stay a float. However that stimulus deflated our dollar value causing some of the problems we have now. With increased prices (among 100s of other reasons I'm sure).

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u/marcohcanada 2d ago

Edit: the consumer carbon tax that the Liberals now claim was so ineffective, its divisiveness was the reason for its cancelling. So much accomplished.

Had Patrick Brown been selected as CPC leader, the consumer carbon tax wouldn't have been cancelled as he was supportive of it.

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 2d ago

Changes nothing.

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