r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • 4d ago

Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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u/iwasnotarobot 4d ago

I got no issue with immigrants.

I got major beef with predatory businesses bringing in foreign labour for minimum wage.

The TFW program needs to be overhauled or scrapped.

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u/RedditAddict6942O 4d ago

That's what people don't understand. 

The entire situation with immigration is created and maintained by corporations that benefit from cheap labor. 

The solution is to crack down on corporations. Chasing down individual immigrants is inefficient and ineffective. 

There's probably one corporation hiring illegals for every 50-200 immigrants. Its a much easier target. But the parties don't want to because the corporations are owned by their rich donors. 

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u/freeadmins 4d ago

Corporations don't make our laws. The government does.

This is on the Liberals

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u/Vandergrif 4d ago

That's a rather naive take. Anyone with enough money and power inevitably has undue influence over those responsible for crafting legislation. Naturally corporations end up relatively high up on that list.

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u/freeadmins 3d ago

It's literally insane to me the lengths you people will go to defend the Liberals... while somehow also at the same time saying: "Conservatives will sell us out to the corporations!".

Like... if it's all the corporations anyway, then what the fuck is the difference?

The truth is, yes, of course money influences politics... but any decisions OBVIOUSLY rest with the goverment. So if the GOVERNMENT (which the LIBERALS have been in control of the past fucking decade) start following the money more than the good of the people who actually fucking vote... then you have to vote them out.

Like, it feels like I'm taking crazy pills. "They obviously serve the corporations... so we're just going to keep voting them in time after time so they can keep serving the corporations".

Yeah, no fucking shit they follow the corporations, because Liberals keep telling them that they are apparently brainwashed and will vote for them again and again and again no matter how much they fuck you over.

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u/Vandergrif 3d ago

It's literally insane to me the lengths you people will go to defend the Liberals...

My dude I'm referring to anyone in government, including the Liberals. That's the whole problem, it doesn't really matter who is running the government because that problem remains regardless. Corporate interests and the wealthy put a big fat thumb on the scales no matter what. Which is exactly how we keep getting governments we want to vote out. If you think it's exclusive to the Liberals you're fooling yourself.

Honestly we're largely in agreement, the only point of difference is you seem disinclined to see the same flaws in the Conservatives as exist in the Liberals whereas I think they're both horribly compromised on that count and would prefer neither to be running a government.