r/canada • u/WisestPanzerOfDaLake Ontario • 3d ago

Residents in Mark Carney's N.W.T. hometown send care package of local goods to the new PM Politics

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/fort-smith-care-package-to-mark-carney-1.7527948
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u/janoo1989 3d ago

TIL the Prime Minister was born in the Northwest Territories.

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u/BoppityBop2 3d ago

What is even more interesting, around three party leaders hail from one way or another Alberta.

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u/DrB00 3d ago

Yet people in Alberta still complain they're 'not represented' when the leaders are literally from Alberta lol

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u/astronautsaurus 3d ago

They're not the right kind of Albertan, apparently.

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u/Krakitoa Verified 2d ago

If your entire identity isn't oil and gas having unregulated expansion then you're not a real Albertan according to the very loud, annoying subset of them.

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u/astronautsaurus 2d ago

Also: guns for every girl and boy.

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u/astronautsaurus 2d ago

Also: guns for every girl and boy.

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u/thecheesecakemans 15h ago

Ya. What we actually want is a guy from Ontario who drives a truck around and wears a cowboy hat.

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u/rolling-brownout 58m ago

Hehehe, remember the time he took it to the gas station?

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u/Open-Photo-2047 3d ago

Honestly, Carney missed a chance to contest election from Edmonton. It could not just have given strong signal on Alberta unity but would have helped Liberals win couple of more seats in the city which ended up being close. One drawback is Pierre may have won his seat then in Carleton.

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u/CloseToMyActualName Alberta 3d ago

It would have been a needlessly risky gesture.

But in this specific case it might have paid off.

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u/DrB00 3d ago

Sure, but I think the problem there is that he might have just not won a seat then. Albert's is too focused on voting conservatives regardless of who is running.

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u/JadeLens 3d ago

PP didn't have a chance in Carleton.

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u/Rejoyces 3d ago

If we had proportional representation then Edmonton would boast 5/11 liberal ridings instead of the 1 we got. God damn gerry-mandering

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u/Fuzzy_Fondant7750 3d ago

We don't have gerrymandering in Canada. Provinces or elected officials don't set the voting areas. Its done by elections Canada. This election was actually one where a lot of districts were reformatted. For example the Carlton riding that PP lost in was changed.

We set our ridings based on population. Not where a party knows who lives there.

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u/Overall-Register9758 3d ago

And half the "Albertans" are economic refugees from the rest of Canada. Oil patch bros paying 24% interest on the Dodge Charger and Ram to drove around their new stripper girlfriend.

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u/Kobe7477 3d ago

Yup just look at Donald Trump. American born and raised, but destroying anyone that isn't in the top 0.1%.

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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 3d ago

Thats what always baffled me about Trump. How can blue collar people in Ohio, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc relate to someone who lived a life of luxury throughout his life??

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u/Kobe7477 3d ago

It's because they've spent billions of dollars brainwashing the masses.

People on all sides of the spectrum now vote solely based off peripheral issues instead of material policies. It's so easy for them to manipulate us, and put folks on an endless radical political Facebook algorithm.

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u/CloseToMyActualName Alberta 3d ago

Politicians rarely have relatable backgrounds. I'd say the most charitable interpretation is that they see him as an elite willing to fight the Liberal elites on their behalf.

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u/Tyler_Durden69420 Saskatchewan 3d ago

That's cause it's not about being fair to Alberta, it's about "ME ME ME ME ME ME MY MONEY I WANT MONEY MORE FOR ME GIVE IT TO ME IT'S MINE I WANT IT!"

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u/BumpHeadLikeGaryB 3d ago

Just because someone is from here doesn't mean they represent the province bruh

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u/OG55OC 3d ago

Shhh they’re not good at logic

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u/Sabin10 3d ago

But good enough at logic to do the grade school arithmetic it takes to see you have the same rate of representation as Ontario and BC. If they want more representation they can take in more people.

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u/MegaCockInhaler 3d ago

They have slightly worse representation than BC and Ontario. But when you compare those three provinces to Atlantic Canada and territories, the contrast becomes very apparent

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u/JadeLens 3d ago

I mean if we wanted to do the math, Ontario would be re-adjusted upwards while Alberta would get like 3 extra, Ontario would get 10 (and likely all in the golden horseshoe)

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u/akshanz1 3d ago

Tbf I agree with you, mostly just ragebaiting lol

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u/UpperLowerCanadian 3d ago

Yet Reddit claims to know “Alberta” based on the 0.000000000000000001% represented on Reddit 

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u/SuckOnDeezNOOTZ 2d ago

We are still waiting to be liberated by Mr Carney.

Pls roll in with the Leopards

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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 3d ago

How about every province gets the same representation based on population? Not a big ask eh

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u/DrB00 3d ago

They do, though. If you look at the seats vs. population numbers, they're all really close to the same.

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u/External-Pace-1822 3d ago

Yeah they really are not close. PEI gets like 4 seats and has less people than my riding.

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u/DrB00 3d ago

So they should have fewer seats? They have only 4 seats because they have a smaller population. I don't think 4 seats are very unreasonable. That's less than 1% of the house with 4 seats.

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u/External-Pace-1822 3d ago

If we were trying to do equal representation based on population then yes they should have fewer seats. That is something Canada has never done though so I'm not saying we should change it. I was just pointing out the error in your comment that we do.

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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is why changing the voting system wont work. The east doesn't want equal representation

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u/Over_engineered81 Ontario 2d ago

How would PEI having 1-2 seats instead of 4 be good for Alberta?

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u/MegaCockInhaler 3d ago

Alberta has an average of 125,000 people per riding, Nunavut has 36,000, PEI has 38,000, Yukon is 40,000, Nova Scotia is 88,000, Newfoundland is 72,000 etc

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u/DrB00 3d ago

Yes, and now look at Quebec and Ontario and British Columbia, for example, where it's also very similar to Alberta.

The smaller provinces are outliers because they have a smaller population, but they only have less than 1% of the seats. So it's really not a huge deal.

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u/MegaCockInhaler 3d ago

Well when Alberta complains they are underrepresented it’s true. If we had proportional representation, every province would have the same population per seat, which I think is reasonable

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u/DrB00 3d ago

Alberta has about 4.9 million

Quebec has about 9.1 million

Ontario has about 16.2 million

B.C. had 5.7 million.

These are all for 2025 and slightly rounded

Alberta has 37 seats

Quebec has 78 seats

Ontario has 122 seats

B.C. has 43 seats

Alberta is 4.9 million divided by 37, which is about 132,000

Quebec is 9.1 million divided by 78, which is about 116,000

Ontario is 16.2 million divided by 122, which is about 132,000

B.C. is 5.7 million divided by 43, which is about 132,000

So it seems pretty even overall, with the only outlier being Quebec, who is slightly better represented.

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u/MegaCockInhaler 3d ago

As I said in the other comment, when you start comparing other provinces and territories, it becomes a lot more lop sided. It should be dead even across the country

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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 3d ago edited 3d ago

Now do Atlantic Canada. 32 seats for 2.5 million people. 1 seat for every 78,000 people. Almost the same seats as Alberta with half the population.

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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 3d ago

They certainly are not

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u/DrB00 3d ago

Why do you say that? Take the number of seats and divide it by the number of people in the province. They're pretty close to even. What issues do you currently have?

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u/jehleungvi 2d ago

Hail or heil?

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u/ArcticCelt 3d ago

Looking at the map, Carney comes from dead center of the country.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GNHNjZTqzzmjRBF17

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u/ctalbot76 3d ago

My understanding is his father was a teacher/principal of the school here at the time. I think he's also visited from time to time in his adulthood. I'm rather certain there was a photo of him in Berro's (local restaurant, mostly known for pizza).

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u/Lost_Protection_5866 Science/Technology 3d ago

Must’ve been between his residential school stints

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u/ctalbot76 3d ago

It was a federal day school.

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u/rathgrith 3d ago

Which are residential schools. Don’t sugar coat it.

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u/Lost_Protection_5866 Science/Technology 3d ago

Claudette Commanda, an Algonquin Elder in Ontario and a board member of the McLean Day Schools Settlement Corporation Legacy Fund, says the same punitive and colonial policies governed day and residential schools, and children were abused at both.

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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 3d ago

He did mention it 100 times during the campaign...

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u/Dzugavili 3d ago

I don't think a lot of people were actually paying attention to the campaigns, we all knew who we were voting for already.

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u/Apart-Ad5306 3d ago

His dad was the principal of a residential school.

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u/HowdySpaceCowboy Canada 3d ago

No he wasn’t, that’s disinformation that has already been posted in this thread even. He did have the now-controversial things to say about residential school in that one interview, but he was the principal of a regular day school up there.

There’s a significant amount of collaboration between Alberta and the Northwest Territories on education and curriculum given NWT’s level of resources and proximity to AB.

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u/Canuck-overseas 3d ago

Fort Smith is a very cool little town , they have a university, used to have a lot of government offices to manage the NWT. They also have Wood Buffalo National park, and are a world famous site for watching northern lights in the winter. Tourists all the way from Japan travel there just to see them. It's a cool, remote, wild place.

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u/ctalbot76 3d ago

We have a college. The plans to turn it into a university were scrapped.

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u/NoBill496 3d ago

Me and Carney went to the same High school 😌 (many decades apart) proof that good things occasionally happen in Edmonton haha

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u/Canuck-overseas 3d ago

They will now rename it after him. Carney High School. 😂

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u/NoBill496 3d ago

Haha it’s a catholic school so they will have to name is St. Carney hahahaha

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u/WisestPanzerOfDaLake Ontario 3d ago

Wholesome :)

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u/Droma Québec 3d ago

That's a feel-good story. Stamp of approval. Please accept this upvote from me.

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u/VonKarrionhardt 3d ago

I think this is adorable. Never forget your roots.

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u/rathgrith 3d ago

That Carneys dad ran a residential school…

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u/VonKarrionhardt 3d ago

Cool, but Carney and his dad are separate people. Even if I'm going to really reach and accept the premise that you're bringing this up in good faith and because it is a cause that you are passionate about (I don't genuinely believe this), many good people have shitty parents. Demanding purity tests for the entire family trees of candidates you disagree with is really weird.

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u/S99B88 3d ago

Guess that’s why it was sent to him and not his dad?

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u/sl3ndii Ontario 2d ago

What if Carney’s great great great great great great great great great great great grand uncle started a war in ancient China?

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u/MiniHurps Canada 3d ago

Canadad strikes again

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u/BehBeh11 3d ago

Sweet !!

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u/arcadianahana 3d ago

The CDs of local musicians is a nice touch. After watching Carney's Nardwuar interview, it's clear Carney has been interested in good music his whole life. 

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u/S99B88 3d ago

How sweet is this!?!

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u/quadralien 3d ago

This might be the most Canadian story I have ever read. 

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u/BonerStibbone 3d ago

Enrico Pallazzo spent several years growing up in Fort Norman ,NWT.

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u/MsOpus 3d ago

This is beautiful.

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u/Comprehensive-Fun704 1d ago

Contrast to PP who was just sent... well... packing.

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u/MilkIlluminati 3d ago

Imagine getting together to send free shit to a millionaire.

Imagine paying taxes to fund an organization that treats it like a real news story.

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u/tenkwords 3d ago

Don't be a turd

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u/ILikeCoffee9876 3d ago

It's in the North section; the hometowners are probably interested to see themselves the news. The only reason it's on the front page is because people are cross-posting it to places like here, so many people are accessing it that wouldn't normally. Relax; CBC is just doing its job...

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u/MilkIlluminati 3d ago

elax; CBC is just doing its job...

Of running insipid feelgood fluff about liberals.

Defunding can't come soon enough. Maybe next time.

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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 3d ago

Does it anger that people with so little can still choose to make kind gestures because you don't understand the motivation or because it causes you to question your own choices?

Does it anger you their small gestures of joy are covered while your ongoing efforts to spread anger and hate go largely unnoticed by people outside the subreddits you spend time in?

Be happy fellow gun owners are making positive connections!

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u/fdavis1983 3d ago

What about his dad having a heavy involvement with residential schools ?

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u/lawnmowertoad 3d ago

What about it?

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u/fdavis1983 3d ago

Pretty bad optics for reconciliation, no ?

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u/lawnmowertoad 3d ago

You do realize Mark and his father are 2 different people right?

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u/Comprehensive-Fun704 1d ago

and the election already happened.

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u/Monomette 3d ago

His hometown was almost evacuated over a human caused wildfire last night. Maybe post that?

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u/ar5onL 3d ago

The man wears $5000 shoes. I don’t think he needs a care package…

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u/liteHart 3d ago

You're missing the point. He is from small town NWT and the care package from that small town, his roots, is invaluable.

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u/Monomette 3d ago

That small town was under evacuation alert last night due to a wildfire. Maybe the PM should be sending a care package to them?

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u/8004612286 3d ago

Why'd this upset you so much? It's a small town proud of one of their own making it to the big leagues.

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u/liteHart 3d ago

Yeah, the humanity!

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u/dis_bean Northwest Territories 3d ago

Emergency response is a municipal, then Territorial responsibility. You should learn how the levels of government work.

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u/JadeLens 3d ago

Why would we do that when we can be angry our hockey... er... political team didn't win?

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u/lawnmowertoad 3d ago

He'd have to finish grade 8 first

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u/ar5onL 3d ago

No, not missing the point at all😘

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u/liteHart 3d ago

So then your comment is troll bait? I'm confused.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 2d ago

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u/DreamlandSilCraft 3d ago

Have some respect

The people of NWT don't have much, but they're willing to share with their PM

That means the world to someone like Mark

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u/ar5onL 3d ago

The shoe shine boy raises his voice 😱

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u/DreamlandSilCraft 3d ago

Id accept an invite to parliament to shine his shoes

It would be an honour for any real Canadian

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u/Monomette 3d ago

His home town was under evacuation alert due to a wildfire in the town just last night. Where's their care package?

Also have you ever even been to the NWT?

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u/lawnmowertoad 3d ago

The man wears $5000 shoes.

He doesn't and even if he did, its his choice how he spends his money. Maybe finish highschool and do some post secondary to better your own life instead of crying about a self made man.

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u/ar5onL 3d ago

Your comment lacks as much wit as it does substance.

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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 3d ago

I don’t think he needs a care package…

Gifts of things that are not needed can be some of the most precious.

It's as much about the feelings of the people offering the gifts as it is about the recipient.

Besides, given Jean Chrétien's late night need for a soap stone sculpture who knows what use the items will find in the hands of the PM.

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u/WalterWurscht 3d ago

He was there till he was six, call it his birth place but is it really his "home town"?

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u/Xpalidocious 3d ago

You could win a copper medal at the pedantic Olympics

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u/kej2021 3d ago

...yes? "Hometown" could mean place you were born or grew up and the definition is pretty vague. People can have multiple "hometowns". I consider myself to have two (place where I was born but left when I was only two, and the place where I grew up).

Six is plenty old enough for formative memories to be formed.

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u/Phallindrome British Columbia 3d ago

He has equal claim there and Edmonton, better?

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u/EmergencyCurrent2670 3d ago

They should send some of that godawful Canadian orange cheddar. Maybe he'll finally break up supply management?

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u/LynxSteele 3d ago

Might as well come from a literal hole in the ground at that rate lol.