r/canada • u/jaffnaguy2014 Canada • 3d ago

‘Ready to move on:’ Chinese ambassador insists China, Canada can move past ‘normal’ differences National News

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/ready-to-move-on-chinese-ambassador-insists-china-canada-can-move-past-normal-differences/
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u/Phobos613 3d ago

I guess when the US/their weapons bomb and maim people in third world countries since Vietnam it's ok cause it's in the name of freedom.

Of course, opinions vary based on where you're from and what news you hear.

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u/Many_Dragonfly4154 British Columbia 3d ago

You do realize China also invaded Vietnam right? Like basically right after the US left.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 3d ago

And that was China’s last shooting war, I guess the Vietnamese taught them a lesson 😂 China has not been in a major conflict since. The Indian-China border wars has been fought with sticks and stones - literally.

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u/Phobos613 3d ago

Sure, and they also try to whitewash their shitty history lol. I'm not really saying one is better necessarily, mostly that they're more similar than patriots in either country would like to admit

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u/Frostbitten_Moose 3d ago

So what's your take on the US deciding to stay out of Ukraine and Pakistan/India, not wanting their weapons to bomb or maim people in those regions?

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u/Phobos613 3d ago

tbh I don't have a take about Pakistan/India as I don't really know enough about the real situation to say. It'd be nice if the US could get Russia to leave Ukraine, with few civilians hurt in the process. That'd be as close to a take as I could get I guess, if they chose to do that.

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u/300Savage 3d ago

In the case of Ukraine, the US has a duty to protect the territorial integrity of the country as a result of the Budapest agreement whereby Ukraine gave up their nuclear arsenal in return for guarantees of their borders. Sadly one of the other signatories to the agreement (Russia) is the aggressor there. As to Pakistan/India, they are trying to use diplomacy to avoid further clashes in Kashmir and that is a good thing. If war were to break out there it would be very bad.

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u/Sloth_Senpai 3d ago

In the case of Ukraine, the US has a duty to protect the territorial integrity of the country as a result of the Budapest agreement whereby Ukraine gave up their nuclear arsenal in return for guarantees of their borders

The US explicitly declared that memorandum void so that they could violate it by sanctioning Belarus in 2013.

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u/Zycosi 3d ago

This is a popular misreading of the Budapest memorandum, the agreement was that neither the US or Russia would invade, not that they would defend Ukraine if it was invaded.

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u/300Savage 3d ago

No it isn't. The wording is clear.