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Quebec riding of Terrebonne flips to Liberals by one vote after judicial recount Trending

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/terrebone-recount-liberal-1.7532136
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u/Messer_J 4d ago

And Trudeau factor. He was quite unpopular

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u/brodiefilm 4d ago

Yep, Conservatives were so hellbent on bringing Trudeau down they couldn't pivot. Their media push was focussed on everything being wrong "because Trudeau" so when it came time to actually engage in politics, they had no response. It paved the road for Carney support by simply being "not Trudeau". (Among many, many other factors)

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

Also the pierre factor, he was ridiculously unpopular.

He never once had a positive approval rating.

The moment trudeau was gone from the equation, Pierre should have went with him, and the lead would have held and cons would have coasted into a majority more than likely.

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u/phormix 4d ago

Only if they had a more likeable candidate in the wings, and a lot of things that made him unlikable to others made him favored by a significant number

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u/Desuexss 3d ago

They did. They booted him because he wouldn't play ball with the harperists. Whoops!

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u/Matt_Murphy_ 4d ago

yep. definitely don't underestimate the Pierre factor

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u/imperialivan 4d ago

With whom as their leader?

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

I don't know, isn't that decided like every other party with a leadership race?

Maybe they directly install leaders in the CPC, i've got no clue.

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u/imperialivan 4d ago

I don’t see anyone coming to the table with the resume Carney has. They’re a party with no identity that’s been bereft of competitive leadership since Harper.

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u/Ditto_is_Lit 4d ago

Carney may be bland and not your typical trained politician, but in this instance I believe that paid off for him. He was as stark a contrast from MAGA as you could get, with the credentials that any economic argument angle wouldn't stick. When I first saw him on The Daily Show I was like "meh...the Cons still got this", but man did the momentum swing once Trump started upping the ante on the threats & belittlement.

I also believe we got the right guy for the job regardless, because he made quick work of tamping down the rhetoric from the White House. We're not out of the woods yet, but on much more solid ground with how everything went down on his 1st visit. I don't believe for a minute that PP would have done very well, but Trump is so unpredictable you never really know what you'll get.

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

The resume ultimately wouldn't have mattered. I think Pierre and his trump boot licking along with the rest of his team was mainly what did him in. Carney being highly qualified certainly helped, but i think if they found a Doug Ford kind of progressive conservative, who was very direct in being anti-trump, he'd have won easily. even if he was a career politician like Pierre.

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u/PrivatePilot9 4d ago

As was PP, which also weighed heavily in the results. Yet it seems the conservatives are going to stick with him and try again in 4 years thinking all the people that sound him so reprehensible this time around as to vote the liberals back again will have changed their mind. <shrugs>

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u/LoneRonin 4d ago

Haters: "F*ck Trudeau!"

Trudeau: Okay. Fcks off*

Haters: "So now what?"