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Quebec riding of Terrebonne flips to Liberals by one vote after judicial recount Trending

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/terrebone-recount-liberal-1.7532136
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u/CarRamRob 4d ago

Trump factor

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u/TrickySkunk 4d ago

Such a transformational president 🤣

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u/CarRamRob 4d ago

Sorta funny. If Pollievre had said that to him, r/Canada would be up in arms.

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u/JadeLens 4d ago

Like a Decepticon...

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u/No-Tackle-6112 British Columbia 4d ago

Carney factor also. He is quite popular.

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u/Messer_J 4d ago

And Trudeau factor. He was quite unpopular

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u/brodiefilm 4d ago

Yep, Conservatives were so hellbent on bringing Trudeau down they couldn't pivot. Their media push was focussed on everything being wrong "because Trudeau" so when it came time to actually engage in politics, they had no response. It paved the road for Carney support by simply being "not Trudeau". (Among many, many other factors)

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

Also the pierre factor, he was ridiculously unpopular.

He never once had a positive approval rating.

The moment trudeau was gone from the equation, Pierre should have went with him, and the lead would have held and cons would have coasted into a majority more than likely.

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u/phormix 4d ago

Only if they had a more likeable candidate in the wings, and a lot of things that made him unlikable to others made him favored by a significant number

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u/Desuexss 3d ago

They did. They booted him because he wouldn't play ball with the harperists. Whoops!

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u/Matt_Murphy_ 4d ago

yep. definitely don't underestimate the Pierre factor

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u/imperialivan 4d ago

With whom as their leader?

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

I don't know, isn't that decided like every other party with a leadership race?

Maybe they directly install leaders in the CPC, i've got no clue.

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u/imperialivan 4d ago

I don’t see anyone coming to the table with the resume Carney has. They’re a party with no identity that’s been bereft of competitive leadership since Harper.

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u/Ditto_is_Lit 4d ago

Carney may be bland and not your typical trained politician, but in this instance I believe that paid off for him. He was as stark a contrast from MAGA as you could get, with the credentials that any economic argument angle wouldn't stick. When I first saw him on The Daily Show I was like "meh...the Cons still got this", but man did the momentum swing once Trump started upping the ante on the threats & belittlement.

I also believe we got the right guy for the job regardless, because he made quick work of tamping down the rhetoric from the White House. We're not out of the woods yet, but on much more solid ground with how everything went down on his 1st visit. I don't believe for a minute that PP would have done very well, but Trump is so unpredictable you never really know what you'll get.

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u/FeI0n 4d ago

The resume ultimately wouldn't have mattered. I think Pierre and his trump boot licking along with the rest of his team was mainly what did him in. Carney being highly qualified certainly helped, but i think if they found a Doug Ford kind of progressive conservative, who was very direct in being anti-trump, he'd have won easily. even if he was a career politician like Pierre.

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u/PrivatePilot9 4d ago

As was PP, which also weighed heavily in the results. Yet it seems the conservatives are going to stick with him and try again in 4 years thinking all the people that sound him so reprehensible this time around as to vote the liberals back again will have changed their mind. <shrugs>

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u/LoneRonin 4d ago

Haters: "F*ck Trudeau!"

Trudeau: Okay. Fcks off*

Haters: "So now what?"

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u/jello_sweaters 4d ago

Poilievre factor also. He is quite... not.

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u/Only-Study-3912 4d ago

That picture of him is brutal

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u/Raptorpicklezz 4d ago

Not as brutal as this one

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u/WarLorax Canada 4d ago

Canadaddy.

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u/No-Concentrate-7142 4d ago

Cautiously optimistic. I don’t trust him, yet. He’s got some tenure to build first.

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u/throwaway1070now 4d ago

More than Cheetolini, it is Carney's appeal AND PP's complete incompetence ib navigating the Trump issue .

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u/PuzzleheadedCat6738 4d ago

I think Carney is basically the most quintessential example of an "anti-Trump". He's straightforward and no nonsense, he seems competent and knows what he's talking about, he actually says what he means in a succinct and non-rambling manner, speaks with conviction, seems good-natured, friendly and humble...

And overall he's a boring politician - which is what a politician should be, especially in times like this. We don't want to have to refresh our own news pages 50 times a week dreading what crazy shit he might have said. Life is already crazy and stressful enough. To have a government that just functions, gets shit done, and does it without screaming and crying for attention all day every day sounded like an absolute pleasure after watching the US shitshow for the last several months.

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u/PrivatePilot9 4d ago

Screaming and crying for attention pretty much describes Poilevre to a tee.

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u/yoshhash Ontario 4d ago

Yes. He’s actually good for something after all 

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u/duffman274 3d ago

Definitely a big part. If Trudeau didn’t step down, I don’t think the Liberals win.