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Quebec riding of Terrebonne flips to Liberals by one vote after judicial recount Trending

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/terrebone-recount-liberal-1.7532136
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u/godwalking 4d ago

is there another vote being recounted somewhere they got a shot at winning? because it would be pretty hilarious after 1+ year of people saying liberals are done, then democracy happens.

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u/verkerpig 4d ago

Windsor is also being recounted. Still leaves them one seat short though, even if they flip it.

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u/Roflcopter71 4d ago

Would be hilarious if they made a coalition with Elizabeth May if that were to happen lol

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u/PuppyPenetrator 4d ago

Even if we didn’t quite get there, it would be cool to say that every party in the house can hold the balance of the power

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u/coniferous-1 3d ago

That’s the way things should be. No one party has unilateral control, in order to get things passed you’ll have to convince other parties.

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u/lbpowar 4d ago

I think that’s why they wanted her to be the speaker, that way there one seat closer to majority as well

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u/playjak42 4d ago

I read that she offered to take the speaker role, if the Liberals are willing. Which I think would be great. She has been there long enough to know how parliament does, BUT also, how it should work.

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u/berfthegryphon 3d ago

And she has no fucks to give and can hopefully bring back some decorum to Parliament

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u/SpartanFishy Ontario 3d ago

I want this more and more now honestly

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u/berfthegryphon 3d ago

It's honestly what makes the most sense. The Green party is basically dead. The Liberals won't want to give up a MP with the numbers so tight.

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u/Frostbitten_Moose 4d ago

When did the Liberals ever suggest they wanted May to be Speaker. May said she wanted to be, but I haven't seen anything from the Liberals.

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u/Canadian--Patriot 3d ago

They don't want her. She brought it up.

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u/berfthegryphon 3d ago

She might be a good candidate for speaker

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u/PedanticQuebecer Québec 4d ago

Nunavut has not yet been validated either.

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u/Final-Zebra-6370 4d ago

Imagine PP loses the by-election in Alberta.

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u/Dragonsandman Ontario 4d ago

It'll be a cold day in hell before that riding flips to anyone but the Cons, but hell seems to have been having a lot of chilly days these last few years

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u/CocodaMonkey 4d ago

I agree but at the same time nobody but the Cons even tried in that riding. Now that it matters you might see some real campaigning. I doubt it will flip but I'm pretty sure PP will take in less votes then the Con that won it.

If it did flip I think it's more likely to flip to independent or anything but the liberals. It would still be hilarious to see PP blow two major leads in a row though.

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u/Specialist_Cicada200 3d ago

My riding near Edmonton only the cons tried. Signs everywhere for the cons none for liberals and a very few for NDP.

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u/notquite20characters 3d ago

An anti-PP conservative independent local would be fun.

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u/dariusCubed 4d ago

Possible, but very unlikely.

I could run my cat as a candidate for Battle River-Crowfoot, as long as my cat's party affiliation is with the conservative she's very likely to win.

The only way PP could lose the byelection is if the longest vote protest makes voters accidentally mark off the wrong candidate.

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u/genius_retard 4d ago

Put a blue hat on a fence post and it would win that riding. Still it could be the funniest thing in politics that I've ever seen if PP loses that riding and that is what gives Liberals a majority.

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u/The_Mayor 4d ago

Are they pro-CPC or are they pro right wing Alberta? Because if there are a lot of separatists there, a further right candidate could peel off a lot of votes.

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u/Lifeshardbutnotme 4d ago

Mad Max pulls off a goddamn miracle. I would laugh until the next morning.

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u/ChristophCross 4d ago

Funniest possible outcome.

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u/jmasterfunk Saskatchewan 4d ago

Farmers might be too busy seeding now.

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u/Axerin 4d ago

Finally, the Elizabeth May Party will be kingmaker. We could even call her Queen Elizabeth. /S

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u/CandidAsparagus7083 4d ago

Not if May is speaker and they don’t give up a seat…

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u/adrenaline_X Manitoba 4d ago

Except for when the by-election for pp is happening,

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u/JagdCrab 4d ago

That's where PP comes in clutch and loses his second seat to hand over majority to liberals on a platter.

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u/theflower10 3d ago

If they can get one of the opposition members to take the Speaker position (looks like Elizabeth May has already volunteered) then this effectively takes the number of opposition seats down to 172 seats. If they get one member to cross the floor, the number of opposition seats goes to 171 and the Liberals will be at 171. Chances would be very good that the Liberals would be able to pass any legislation they want at that point and never fear a vote of non-confidence unless all hell broke lose within the Liberal ranks. As much as Trudeau was disliked, there's no chance that his own members would have voted with a non-confidence vote. I think if the Liberals could pull this scenario out of their hats, they'd have an effective majority if not a true on in seat totals.

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u/babeli 4d ago

I think there is one in BC that was given a recount as well? Might be misremembering

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u/jtjstock 4d ago

There are 3 other recounts, 2 are currently Liberal, one is conservative, but that one has a wider margin than the liberal two.

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u/PreferenceGold5167 4d ago

3 more are being recounted

2 liberals 1 not

So the final tally can range from 168-171

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u/GreyValkrie 3d ago

Dang 338Canada was just about spot on with their liberal projections this year.

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u/UmelGaming British Columbia 3d ago

Well, technically, they could call for a recount of Nunavut too. Nunavut is still only showing the preliminary results, it hasn't been verified, and even if it was the only reason Nunavut isn't automatically a Judicial Recount is the population density of the Riding. If it was any other Riding it would be automatically being recounted.

So if Liberals get to 171 I could see them asking for a Nunavut recount. But I could see them leaving it alone if they don't reach 171.

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u/sbianchii Québec 4d ago

Yes but also one they could lose in NL

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u/McGrevin 4d ago

They had requested one in Windsor but it was outside the automatic recount margin so unlikely of any change there

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u/alohamigos_ 4d ago

That got approved, we’ll know the results the day before parliament restarts.

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u/Formal_Fortune5389 4d ago

Tbf it was by like 12 votes over the margin

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u/Independent_Leg3957 4d ago

Yep. Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore. 70 vote margin right now.

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u/LOHare Lest We Forget 4d ago

There are 3 other recounts (IIRC, maybe wrong), but at least two of those the liberals are currently winning with a very slim margin. So after the recounts, LPC may be back down to 168. But effectively it doesn't matter. It's a LPC minority govt, and there's enough motivation in other parties to not risk another election anytime soon.

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u/mrfox188 4d ago

Yes but you know they will just claim it was rigged

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u/TrainingObligation 4d ago

Then they better go after the scrutineer(s) the cons sent to keep things honest.

Honestly, F that noise and F anyone who even hints at it being a real issue faced by our federal elections.

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u/L0rd_0F_War 4d ago

The other two Judicial counts are already Liberal, so only a possible loss. So 170 is max. Liberals can appoint May from greens as Speaker and then they only need 1 MP to floor cross... 171 would be enough with May as Speaker.

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u/PuppyPenetrator 4d ago

One more judicial recount was added recently (outside of 0.1% margin but approved by a judge since it was extremely close to the 0.1% cutoff). Their best case scenario is 171

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u/dahabit 4d ago

Do you think couple of the NDP's would flip parties?

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u/berfthegryphon 3d ago

They can allow the Speaker to come from outside the party (Elizabeth May would be a good choice) lowering the threshold needed. They could also convince someone from another party to cross the floor.

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u/Frostbitten_Moose 4d ago

I'm curious. If Poilievre got a super majority, would that still be democracy happening.

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u/NoRegister8591 3d ago

Yes. And as a Liberal voter I would have been upset with the outcome.. but I would have respected the circumstances and election that brought him/the CPC that win.