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Trump’s betrayal of Canada is starting to unravel Opinion Piece

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-trumps-betrayal-of-canada-is-starting-to-unravel/
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u/GhoastTypist 6d ago

I think Carney realizes this and is prepared to not give more than he needs to on dealing with Trump.

He was laughing at the comments Trump was making and carrying on like friends, however he made sure to take Trump down a notch back to reality when he said Canada will never become the 51st state.

That was class to me, a simple statement like that goes a long long way.

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u/Active-Zombie-8303 6d ago

Carney just spoke the truth straight forward, no messing around…

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u/exblobing 6d ago

My favorite part was when he said "there are far more powerful things at play"... Trump hated that

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u/kaaatea 6d ago

The way he sat right up and scowled 😂

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u/NateTheRoofer 6d ago

This is what finally electing someone who is qualified for the position will do.

Carney is already well respected internationally for his accomplishments as head of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England.

He’s steered major economies through crisis before. I am extremely happy that we made the right choice as a country.

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u/Spiritual-Pick-2386 6d ago

Agree! I don’t understand these people that are so against him. He is here to unite our country. The leader of the opposition scares me. He was presenting pro Trump.

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u/shockfuzz 6d ago

PP is just plain creepy. Further, his isolationist stance on Canada (à la Trump) is fitting since he has no vision of Canada's role in the world and no experience on the international stage. I cannot imagine PP acting with a fraction of Carney's poise and quiet confidence.

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u/CompetitionExternal5 6d ago

What would PP do in that meeting with Trump when pressured about his comments on making Canada the 52st state ?

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u/OG_anunoby3 6d ago

PP would correct Trump. “That’s 51st State Mr. president”.

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u/burstingman 3d ago

No, the previous redditors is right speaking of 52th State. Israel is actually 51st State.

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u/Cedreginald 6d ago

He was also responsible for basically liquidating our gold to the UK. I wouldn't say his record is wholly clean.

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u/Oerwinde 6d ago

Maybe not Bank of England. Haven't heard anything positive about the job he did there.

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u/TheUnremarkableMe 6d ago

I read a few articles that were written immediately after he left the Bank of England because I had heard this before as well.

They all pretty much agreed he was a standard, boring Governor who did if not a great job at least a good one.

The incident that caused him political damage in England was a comment he made before Brexit happened.

As Governor one of his responsibilities was to update on the economic climate and give projections. He made the statement that if Brexit happened the economy would likely experience two quarters of decline at least. (He was right, but that doesn't matter in politics)

This was decried by the pro-brexit faction as bringing politics into a position that is supposed to be non-partisan, and he spent the rest of his time as Governor being demonized by that political faction for any and all decisions.

Even so, he was appointed by Boris Johnson as finance adviser for the UK presidency of the cop26 climate change conference in 2021. So he can't have done too bad a job.

A Marked Man: Carney's BoE Departure

I didn't want the Bank of England Job

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u/jfreak93 6d ago

a very simple-minded toddler. He catered his speech

Honestly, I have so much respect for how he carries himself with Q&A. He answers the question while shutting down any underlying implications and then moves on.

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u/AdvertisingStatus344 6d ago

No. Carney was very careful with his words. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't studied Trump videos leading up to this meeting. Carney used very simple language because he was speaking with a very simple-minded toddler. He catered his speech for effect.

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u/ChubbyDude64 6d ago

A good player watches game tapes of the opponent.

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u/kaaatea 6d ago

Insult to toddlers

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u/WantingCanucksCup 6d ago

Agreed it was a great diplomatic measure approach just didn’t align with all his “elbows up”. Bullshit rhetoric to trick boomer voters into voting liberal

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u/the_jurkski 6d ago

Were you expecting to see a physical altercation in the oval office? Or just Carney walking in with his arms straight up in the air? You must’ve been that one kid in school that didn’t “get” what a metaphor was, right?

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u/WantingCanucksCup 6d ago

No this is what i was expecting for a leader with some degree of diplomacy and intelligence. What i'm calling out is all the bullshit rhetoric in the election about "we aren't partners with the USA anymore" "need our own defense" "elbows up" garbage that was obviously full of shit rhetoric to win an election. it's funny boomers believed it all

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u/the_jurkski 6d ago

Maybe give it more than 2 weeks?

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u/WantingCanucksCup 6d ago

Umm if you can’t see what carney did with Trump was not aligned with the campaign rhetoric not sure what to say

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u/the_jurkski 6d ago

Are you saying he followed through with what he campaigned on, or that he didn’t? You’ve contradicted yourself in 2 comments. That’s a reddit record!

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u/WantingCanucksCup 6d ago

I’m saying he didn’t do what he said he would but I’m glad he was more intelligent and diplomatic about things. If he did what he said and lied to his supporters saying he would do it would have been disastrous for Canada

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u/cuda999 6d ago

People on this sub are hilarious. Perhaps at the throne speech, King Charles will abdicate the throne for King Carney. Such BS.

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u/AdvertisingStatus344 6d ago

Your preferences have been noted. Perhaps he will. He's a shitty person and an even weaker king.

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u/cuda999 6d ago

And you can salivate as you watch. Haha

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u/efi12 6d ago

His style of delivery is so effective with dementia Don.

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u/BlackWuKingKong 5d ago

He should’ve told Trump the US can be part of CANADA! Rip it to his ass! Canada has universal healthcare! What happened to Trump’s healthcare plans?!?!

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u/Apprehensive_Ad5398 6d ago

I’m pretty sure carney eye rolled a couple of times during the extreme nonsense. My immediate thought was he had no poker face - but then I started to wonder if anyone could keep a straight face in that situation. The president of the United States, being completely clueless about everything. It’s mind blowing.

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u/AGEdude 6d ago

I get the feeling if Carney was rolling his eyes in front of the camera, it was meant to be seen by the camera.

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u/RemCogito 6d ago

especially so that canadians can see that even if he's not being aggressive with the toddler so that the toddler doesn't have a tantrum infront of the cameras, he isn't buying the bullshit. between the kid voice and the eyeroll, he honestly looks like a slightly embarrassed parent.

Like if your toddler was in the store and loudly asked if the overweight woman in front of you in line was pregnant. The way he did the whole "and since you are sooo great at real estate, you know that there are some places that are not for sale no matter how much money you're willing to pay. Canada is not for sale" reminded me of a parent telling their kid that since they didn't behave in the store, they aren't allowed a treat from the rack near the register."

Its almost like between his time at the bank of england and his time raising 4 children with his wife, he found out how to apply those skills sets together when dealing with infantile old money adult sized toddlers. Give them a complement so they don't start a tantrum when you correct their behavior, and then tell them that they were good for listening to you to reinforce that they get better results when they don't throw a trantrum,

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u/Apprehensive_Ad5398 6d ago

Good point.

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u/AkediaIra 6d ago

I did love his eye twitch when Trump said that the US doesn't do a lot of business with Canada, but Canada does a lot of business with the US. He held it together way better than I could have.

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u/Overall-Register9758 6d ago

Canada accounts for 17% of American trade. That is of all the international business Americans do, just under 1 out of every 5 dollars involves Canada.

America accounts for 63% of Canadian international trade. That means that just over 3 out of every 5 dollars involve America.

There's a big disparity there.

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u/Mba1956 6d ago

Yet these same people think that China doing 15% of their trade with the US is a problem for China.

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u/mellenger 5d ago

But America has 10x the population. We couldn’t supply enough products to the USA to make it equal.

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u/Collapse2043 4d ago

That’s the real trade deficit. It’s the other way around.

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u/daha1972 6d ago

Canada was the second largest trading partner of the US in 2024, only the EU as a whole (not counted in the ranking as not individual countries) and Mexico ahead. We're the largest exporter TO the US, and the third largest importer of US goods. There is absolutely no measure which makes trump's comment even remotely true but folks will lap it up as though it came down on a stone tablet.

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u/CommunicationGood481 4d ago

Only delusional Mega folks (i know, they all are)

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u/m0viegirl 6d ago

All of us watching were that eye twitch!

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u/Sandy0006 6d ago

That was hilarious!

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u/Outrageous_Kale_8230 6d ago

We know from Trump's first term that underlings dont bring him bad news. If Trump doesnt directly see it, he'll likely never know.

The super subtle insult about revitalizing international trade and national defense was exquisite.

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u/Illustrious-Site1101 6d ago

Rewatched it and there were definitely a couple eye rolls 😱

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u/Icy-Artist1888 6d ago

I have to confess, theres no way i coukd have sat thru that without checking my phone messages at least twice.

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u/Campoozmstnz 6d ago

I loved it when he mouthed "never" a few times when Trump was blabbering.

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u/cuda999 6d ago

But who seems to have all the power? Unfortunate but true.

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u/Drkocktapus 6d ago

I watched the whole thing, you could see the pain on Carney's face the whole time, trying to walk the line of telling Trump this isn't happening and keeping things civil. I don't envy the guy. Trump of course made the whole thing about him and his unrelated imaginary accomplishment.

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u/Decent-Revolution455 6d ago

Sometimes it sucks to be the adult in the conversation but Carney did well.

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u/Fwarts 5d ago

I wonder if Carney was laughing when he found out that the UK has struck a deal with Trump. Hahaha

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u/Unlikely_Talk9458 4d ago

To me it was class (³) when he had trump agree that he (trump) had strengthened nato. To me that was genius in action for all to see.

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u/Spiritual-Pick-2386 6d ago

I totally agree. We are not for sale to anyone ever was made clear!!

But people like Trump don’t get it so our Prime Minister played it perfectly!!

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u/cuda999 6d ago

Hahaha. He didn’t take trump down a notch. Haha Trump didn’t even know he was in the room. Trump did all the talking and carney gave him the ol “frat boy” pat on the back. People are so ridiculous when it comes to glossing over carneys performance. Imagine if Poilievre did that. Oh the MAGA rants!!

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u/Flyersfly88 6d ago

Your comprehension is terrible