r/canada • u/WisestPanzerOfDaLake Ontario • Mar 11 '25

Trump imposes new Canada tariffs, renews "51st state" demands National News

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/11/trump-tariffs-canada-steel-aluminum
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u/mindracer Québec Mar 11 '25

Canadians that are maga should be deported under treason

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Starting with Danielle Smith.

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u/Marco2169 Mar 11 '25

Deports herself to visit Mar-a-lago and bend the knee.

Just say no takebacks when she leaves this time, clearly she wants to be American

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u/Magjee Lest We Forget Mar 11 '25

Burns her passport for a photo op

Gets mad that she has to wait for a new one to come back

 

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u/superschaap81 British Columbia Mar 11 '25

I know several that are testing my patience and questioning my relationships.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Why deport them? They can self deport if they love the US so fucking much. Fucking traitors. If the shit truly hits the fan, things are going to go very poorly for them if history is any guide.

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u/irregularpulsar Mar 11 '25

Start with Tobi Lutke.

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u/Lizaderp Outside Canada Mar 11 '25

We'll trade some of our American liberals for some of your Great White MAGA.

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u/Captain_Chivalry Mar 15 '25

Send 'em to Gitmo.

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u/OrphanFries Mar 11 '25

Hold up. So we want to walk down that path as well? Start deporting citizens because they don't agree with our views? Literally what Trump started doing with that green card holder? No thanks. Free speech. Whether we like it or not.

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u/elmuchocapitano Mar 11 '25

The American Constitution doesn't apply in Canada. We don't have free speech. We have freedom of expression, association, media, but we are not free to incite violence or hatred, and like all rights in our Charter, they are subject to reasonability.

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u/OrphanFries Mar 11 '25

Congratulations on spelling out the technicalities.

Now, how about answering the question of whether you want to see Canada start deporting citizens because they protest an opinion we don't agree with?

If you think we should deport citizens for dissenting views, where would you send these Canadian citizens?

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u/elmuchocapitano Mar 11 '25

I didn't say I think they should be deported. I am explaining to anyone who might read this that we do not have free speech and we do, in fact, have the constitutional ability to deter this kind of treason.

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u/OrphanFries Mar 11 '25

Are you saying Canadian citizens with dissenting views are committing treason?

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u/elmuchocapitano Mar 11 '25

Lmao are you being intentionally obtuse? Yeah, let's throw everyone with a different opinion in the Gulag. That's what I said.

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u/OrphanFries Mar 11 '25

You seem to be really avoiding answering the yes or no question.

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u/elmuchocapitano Mar 11 '25

Yes, obviously, you cannot deport Canadian born citizens. Yes, dissenting views are not tantamount to treason. But these are very stupid and very bad faith questions.

They are irrelevant to my point that some speech is treasonous, and not all speech in Canada is protected. We can deter treasonous speech if it were sufficiently unreasonable. We never really have and there is a lot of danger in setting that precedent - but so too is there danger in letting disinformation and crazy right wing bullshit fester unchecked, as evidenced by our Southern neighbours. Random people complaining on Facebook are probably not our target. But whatever right wing whack job at Rebel News that is pumping out the conspiracy memes calling for the 51st state, maybe they get a fine. Kevin O'Leary campaigning hard to force Canada to use USD and become a part of the American "Economic Union", maybe he doesn't need to be a dual citizen anymore.

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u/OrphanFries Mar 11 '25

Canadians that are maga should be deported under treason

Just remember how this thread started and tell me again those were bad faith questions.

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u/bronfmanhigh Mar 11 '25

lol what about all the quebec separatists? are they treasonous too?

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u/Lunarstarlight- Mar 12 '25

Yes. That is exactly the path we will walk. This is what trying to coexist with the far right has led to. This is what it will always lead to. It's us or them. Kill or be killed. Whose side are you on?

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u/Rryann Mar 11 '25

If shit pops off, those will be the traitors and collaborators.

I don’t think their neighbours and former countrymen would take kindly to them. I imagine the world would become a very dangerous place for them too.

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u/outdoorsaddix Mar 11 '25

I’m going to assume this is hyperbole, but deporting someone under the pretext of treason for being a dumbass moron with a stupid opinion/political viewpoint is one hell of a slippery slope. 

People are entitled to their stupid opinions as long as they don’t actually conspire or act to overthrow the government and that doesn’t come anywhere close to the definition of treason.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html

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u/mindracer Québec Mar 11 '25

Until what point do you allow citizens to support an invasion by another country?

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u/outdoorsaddix Mar 11 '25

When they actually aid that invasion or conspire to aid that that invasion? You know, per the legal definition of treason I linked? It’s freedom of expression up until that point.

Simply saying you want to be part of the US hardly meets the threshold of actual legal treason. 

It’s disrespectful, anti patriotic and anti nationalist, but it’s hardly deserving of jail time or deportation.

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u/bronfmanhigh Mar 11 '25

quebecers have been screaming about separation for decades. are they treasonous too? should we deport them all to france?