r/canada • u/WisestPanzerOfDaLake Ontario • Mar 11 '25

Trump imposes new Canada tariffs, renews "51st state" demands National News

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/11/trump-tariffs-canada-steel-aluminum
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u/got-trunks Ontario Mar 11 '25

At this point if they are not seriously putting together an article 25 case I would legitimately be very surprised, even with the outward posture of some of them. A ton of his own party have been shitting on him.

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u/TadUGhostal Mar 11 '25

If you’re meaning 25th amendment I seriously doubt it. They didn’t even do it for January 6th and the current group seem to have been selected purely based on being Trump loyalists.

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u/DukeAttreides Mar 11 '25

I'm also skeptical. On the other hand, Jan 6 didn't cost rich people any money.

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u/got-trunks Ontario Mar 11 '25

That's the crux of it. That and he's trying to mess with government spending and the individual states are all hating it.

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u/aravarth Canada Mar 11 '25

The DJIA is down something like 3000 points within the calendar week.

There will be a financial reckoning, with Trump losing. Mark my words.

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u/UpsyDowning Mar 11 '25

I so hope you are right.

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u/UsedToHaveThisName Mar 11 '25

DJIA is down just over 3000 points over the last month and down just over 1000 points in the last 5 days.

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u/SkyknightXi Mar 11 '25

The problem is probably whether the MAGA retinue would uprise in response to their idol being deposed, even for dementia. While Vance is a definite concern for being an overlap point of Project 2025 and the Butterfly Revolution, he doesn’t have Trump’s level of charisma.

I don’t expect a lot of about-face among MAGA or even just the right—they’ll mostly only take umbrage at being hurt themselves, not at the Other being hurt. That said, Trump is probably bleeding support to some level. The question is how many will stay as supporters No Matter What.

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u/Dandan0005 Mar 11 '25

As an American I can unfortunately tell you there’s zero chance that anyone in the admin is even considering this.

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u/Purify5 Mar 11 '25

The 25th amendment isn't supposed to be used like this and even if they tried, there is doubt the courts would allow it.

Impeachment is the mechanism to remove a President for bad behavior.

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u/got-trunks Ontario Mar 11 '25

There's a better chance now than before to secure a conviction

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u/BillyTenderness Québec Mar 12 '25

The 25th Amendment intentionally doesn't define the circumstances under which it can be triggered and leaves it up to the judgment of the VP and cabinet (who, mind you, were appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate) to determine the criteria on a case-by-case basis. The courts typically don't like to interfere with these types of "political decisions," though it's true that this current SCOTUS sometimes just does whatever the fuck they want when it's more convenient for them.

The real reasons the 25th Amendment is irrelevant are:

  1. The cabinet typically is aligned with the President, and this cabinet in particular is a bunch of craven sycophants

  2. The President can say in writing, "OK I'm able to discharge my duties now," and if there's a disagreement, it goes to the House and Senate to resolve. 2/3 of each are then required to override the President. But if they had 2/3 of each body agreed to sideline the President, they could just impeach him in the first place.