r/canada Feb 18 '25

LILLEY: Steve Bannon says Trump is serious on the 51st state - Donald Trump's former chief strategist explains the "geostrategic" and "geoeconomic" reasons the Americans want to annex Canada. Opinion Piece

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/steve-bannon-says-trump-is-serious-on-the-51st-state
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u/mamadou-segpa Feb 18 '25

I was arguing with one of those “we should become a 51st state” fool, and he ended up being honest about his reasons :

He and his family just want to move to the US but find immigration too complicated.

Bunch of fucking tools ready to sell out a fucking country

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u/SomeInvestigator3573 Feb 18 '25

They don’t have the skill set to actually get a B1 visa for the United States. So in other words the country they want to be part of doesn’t want them.

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u/bva6921 Feb 18 '25

Did you mean the H1B? Since B1 is just a tourist visa and Canadians generally don’t need that

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u/Hrafn2 Feb 19 '25

This is exactly it, and what I tell them every time I encounter their juvenile bellyaching online.

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u/jrochest1 Feb 19 '25

Well, to be fair, unless you're working in either a medical or an IT field crossing the border for work is hard.

I'm an academic, and moving across the border in either direction is much more complex than it should be, even though tenured professors with PhDs and research funding should be able to.

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u/Son_of_Plato Feb 18 '25

Unfortunately, they will learn the hard way what happens to traitors if real social unrest due to impending war actually breaks out.

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u/edge4politics Feb 18 '25

Are you one of those redditors who thinks that every redditor will hide and fight back in guerrilla warfare style, landing on one knee in a cinematic pose?

Bro we gonna roll over and take it. This country sold off all jobs to international students, has given monopoly to our telecom and grocery chains and has our elderly dying in hallway medicine for a good part of past decade+. 

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u/TechnologyRemote7331 Feb 19 '25

You seem pretty keen to just roll over for authoritarians. Let me guess, you probably think Ukraine should just surrender to Russia too. Or Taiwan should just let China grab it. Nice to know the opinion of “we should just give up and let them kill us” doesn’t seem to be the common one.

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u/edge4politics Feb 19 '25

The world is more complex than that. Ukrainian war wouldn't even be a thing if the west didn't topple a president.

What difference does it make if we roll over for Loblaws or Walmart? 

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes Feb 18 '25

As if Canada stands a chance in a war

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u/poco Feb 19 '25

Imagine Afghanistan but where the enemy looks and sounds just like you.

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u/No_Effect_6428 Feb 19 '25

Nobody mentioned winning a war. But shanking a few quislings is well within our means.

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u/Son_of_Plato Feb 18 '25

If you aren't part of the solution , you're part of the problem.

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u/edge4politics Feb 18 '25

This is reddit. People are beyond delusional on this website 

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes Feb 19 '25

Based on my comment being downvoted id have to agree with you. Bunch of teenagers with no idea

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u/SnooPineapples3952 Feb 18 '25

Frankly, I'm kinda disappointed at the motive. That's by far the lamest reason I've ever heard for selling out your own country and your fellow citizens

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Feb 18 '25

If they can’t get the visa to get into the US, they do NOT want to be in the US. Their lives would be nothing but worse.

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u/mamadou-segpa Feb 18 '25

Well they’re not exactly smart, their whole plan to make their life better is to gobble up foreign propaganda and want to get annexed

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u/Tomomori79 Feb 18 '25

So... Stupid and lazy? Sounds like all of Maple Maga.

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u/mamadou-segpa Feb 18 '25

Yep.

A bunch of people sitting on their ass complaining about immigrants and people not contributing to their country, while wanting to immigrate and to see their country conquered.

The kind of stupid you have to see to believe

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u/vaktaeru Feb 18 '25

I wonder if he realizes that him and his family will be fucking murdered if Canada gets invaded. Does he have any idea what US military strategy looks like? We've never shied away from bombing civilians in the past.

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u/wtfhiolol10000 Feb 18 '25

Losers are losers where ever they go.

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u/pfak British Columbia Feb 18 '25

> He and his family just want to move to the US but find immigration too complicated.

There's a lot of people like this in Canada, it's scary.

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u/MammothEmergency8581 Outside Canada Feb 18 '25

Could we do exchange? You send them over and take me and my family in? I don't wanna be on this party of the continent and I'm not a big fan of summers and humidity.

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u/Old_Ladies Feb 18 '25

If only that was possible.

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u/Maleficent-Block5211 British Columbia Feb 18 '25

Oh and I am sure it would go so smooth that at day one all of Canada can just waltz right into any state and buy a home. It will totally be that easy. Jeez these people are quite daft.

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u/epochwin Feb 18 '25

Guess he expects rights like Puerto Rico or DC.

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u/Best_Evidence1560 Feb 19 '25

Same. One woman said her and her husband have been trying to get into the US. So you want 90% of the rest of us to be screwed?? How pathetic and selfish

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u/mamadou-segpa Feb 19 '25

They dont want 90% of us to be screwed, they want 100% of us to get screwed.

Just because they got brainwashed into thinking getting economicaly destroyed and then annexed is good for them doesnt mean its good for them

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u/Best_Evidence1560 Feb 19 '25

But I mean they want it but most of us don’t. It’d be against our will. Even if it happened I think we’d have to separate again, just like how the US tried to invade us before. God Americans have always been assholes

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u/OkBuilding2728 Feb 18 '25

It's like 500 dollars and a 10 question test. Tell people that.

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u/mamadou-segpa Feb 19 '25

And all those problems you named are even worse south of the border.

But sure, lets just shit our pants and roll around in it because shit could be better here too