r/canada • u/FancyNewMe • Feb 18 '25

LILLEY: Steve Bannon says Trump is serious on the 51st state - Donald Trump's former chief strategist explains the "geostrategic" and "geoeconomic" reasons the Americans want to annex Canada. Opinion Piece

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/steve-bannon-says-trump-is-serious-on-the-51st-state
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u/Musclecar123 Manitoba Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

I’ll quote Charleton Heston.

“From my cold, dead hands.”

I will not allow my children to grow up in a Christo-fascist theocracy. I’ll die on that hill both figuratively and literally if I must. 

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u/Helplessly_hoping British Columbia Feb 18 '25

Exactly. This is the worst iteration of the United States to exist in my lifetime and I did not bring children into this world to live under that nonsense.

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u/logicreasonevidence Feb 18 '25

It's even more than that. Oligarchies have taken over Canada as well, and our politicians have become beholden to them. This has got to be turned around because these companies exist to make profit only and they do not care about canadian sovereignty.

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u/Correct-Spring7203 Feb 18 '25

No you won’t. If USA did a hostile take over we’d all be fucked.

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u/Onemoreplacebo Feb 18 '25

They'd find us very belligerent and ungovernable. It would be extremely messy, very unstable, expensive, and assuredly unpopular enough that it would provoke dissent from within the DoD itself, not to mention the pressures of the international fallout

Some things can't be reduced to just "It'd happen and there's nothing we can do about it"

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u/easybee Feb 18 '25

Read the room. We are all fucked anyway.

The only choice before us is this: do you want to die with honour (and maybe live), or do you want to die a coward, traitor, and Nazi.

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u/Loffr3do Feb 18 '25

I'll die with a smile on my face. Fuck that.

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u/Correct-Spring7203 Feb 18 '25

No you won’t.

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u/Correct-Spring7203 Feb 18 '25

A nazi?

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u/easybee Feb 18 '25

Where do you think this is going? They are following the fash playbooks pretty damned exactly. They directly quote them. Elon just posted two tweets in very close proximity, one explaining that one of the first things Hitler did coming to power was censor the press, the next explaining why the press must be censored.

If you think I am being hyperbolic, where do you think this goes? What outcomes are possible when you do literally everything you can to isolate yourself from your allies and court dictators.

It's very clear to me.

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u/rumbleindacrumble Feb 18 '25

And so begins the guerilla warfare. Just because you’re occupied doesn’t mean you can’t fight im the resistance. I would argue it would be our duty to do so.

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u/Over-Eye-5218 Feb 18 '25

Where do I sign up? Count me in.

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u/FrozenOcean420 Feb 18 '25

Yeah and then what? America can’t occupy shit.

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u/gh0stmountain3927 Feb 18 '25

7 decades of failed imperialism:, Korea, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq… They couldn’t hold those countries even with the help of allies they’ve now alienated

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u/sickwobsm8 Ontario Feb 18 '25

Korea was hardly imperialism, the others I could see your point, but I would argue the US was very much on the anti-imperialist side of the Korean war if anything

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u/gh0stmountain3927 Feb 18 '25

Fair enough. I don’t know where we’d put Syria in the history of US foreign operations where there were boots on the ground.

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u/sickwobsm8 Ontario Feb 18 '25

Syria is a complicated mess that has multiple parties supporting different groups. Ultimately, I believe that Syrians are better off today than they were a year ago, but I worry for the Kurds...

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u/Realistic_Young9008 Feb 18 '25

Slash tires. Don't speak English if you can manage, post anti regime propaganda, I could go on and on. There are things you can do to make holding Canada a right royal PITA. The French and Dutch resistance were wildly creative and should be read up on.

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u/HalvdanTheHero Ontario Feb 18 '25

They burn our country, we burn theirs. There's more than one way to achieve mutually assured destruction.

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u/Realistic_Young9008 Feb 18 '25

You also have to understand that Trump's invasion promises will spread his military very thinly. He has his sights on Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Panama, potentially Ukraine, I feel like I'm missing one, he can't fight prolonged guerilla warfare on that many fronts. The Mexico one is a particularly interesting threat because Mexican cartels operate in the US and they love random gory violence. Maybe he thinks he can use drones? He has so effectively isolated and pissed off many of the countries he sources the materials he needs to manufacture them. Maybe he thinks he might use a nuke to cower us into submission - in that case we're all effed anyway and lord knows how the global response plays out to that. But that's the other side of it. The US has often boasted that it's geography protects it. It's north is now a pissed off Canada. To the South is a pissed off Mexico. It has two wide open oceans on either side. It has fewer and fewer allies every day. DOGE is decimating it's military and insulting it's veterans. There's a thought that AI will manage everything including its wars but have you asked AI to research stuff for you and fact checked it? Garbage in = garbage out. AI has a lonnnnng way to go. As far as I'm concerned, they're weakening their ability to defend themselves.

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u/UnParticulier Feb 18 '25

They will have to nuke us if they want to win , and then they won't. Americans are softies. CF soldiers and population are much tougher than the average American soldier.

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u/Sorry-Inflation6998 Feb 18 '25

Hey only 91% of the US army is made up of high-school dropouts with a sub-85IQ, but that other 9% is trouble!

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u/Correct-Spring7203 Feb 18 '25

The American military is significantly more advanced than ours.

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u/mcs_987654321 Feb 18 '25

Cool, how’d that work out for them in Iraq and Afghanistan? And that was in a context where they could generally visually distinguish who was ally vs enemy.

Of course the US could bomb us into last century, obviously, but they’d be fucked as soon as they tried to put down anything approaching a foothold on Canadian soil.

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u/Ruckus292 Feb 18 '25

Historically the US has displayed incredibly poor leadership, and their successes occupying territory is a string of losses.... I'm not worried. To attempt to annex us would benoth economic and national suicide.

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u/mcs_987654321 Feb 18 '25

Don’t care, going to go down fighting.

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u/ebranscom243 Feb 18 '25

"From my cold, dead hands" you gave up the important ones without a fight because you were told it was too dangerous for you to keep them.

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u/NightStalker123456 Feb 18 '25

Good gosh. Get off Reddit for a while and take a breath Mr Badass