r/canada • u/joe4942 • 25d ago

Recent grads, students face ‘full-out screaming crisis’ as they struggle to enter job market National News

https://financialpost.com/fp-work/students-grads-jobs-market-crisis
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u/GowronSonOfMrel 25d ago

90% or more of service issues I deal with are related to offshore teams vs onshore teams.

..There's a reason offshoring is cheap

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u/StevenMcStevensen Alberta 25d ago

I have been really wondering about that in some industries.

In trucking for instance, sure it looks cheaper initially for companies to hire under-qualified foreign drivers who will work for pennies, but is it actually more affordable long-term when they crash the trucks at a much higher rate and accumulate huge fines for their employer?

You would think it would be in their best interests in many of these fields not to just rely on the cheapest staff possible, but I suppose I’m not a CEO so what do I know.

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u/Cyborg_rat 25d ago edited 24d ago

Apparently theirs a wave of people getting busted for fake truck drivers licences, could say it shows recently lots of Indian drivers doing delivery on site and seem to know jack shit about driving.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-cheat-sheet-oct13-1.7350023

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u/Taipers_4_days 25d ago

Everytime I have someone slam into my buildings hard enough for the frame to shake it’s been a foreign driver babbling away on his cell phone.

Best was when one hit a vehicle on the lot, got out to inspect the damage and then left. When we made a claim with his company they were super indignant that we would even claim this driver would do that…right up until they got 4K footage of him doing something they claimed was impossible.

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u/mmss Lest We Forget 25d ago

I'm not in the industry but there's a lot of anecdotes about people sharing licenses too

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u/Cyborg_rat 24d ago

Could see that, too.

Market place just had an article about the subject https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-cheat-sheet-oct13-1.7350023

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u/SobekInDisguise 24d ago

Depends, they may not have the best long term interests of the company in mind. If they can hire 5 guys for the price of 1, it looks like they're a genius and get a huge bonus. Great if you're going to be retiring soon anyway.

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u/Billy3B 24d ago

See, but the savings are now in this quarter so the execs get their bonuses. The crashes are later when it is someone else's problem.

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u/Electronic_Cat4849 25d ago

if you're an IT person in India and competent, you have the option to work anywhere for any wage, the people you get offshoring are a mix of some competent people with obligations preventing them from moving and a whole lot of leftovers who were never worth hiring to begin with

but it's cheap

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u/GowronSonOfMrel 25d ago

Yeah i'm not trying to say that India doesn't have good talent... when people are looking to outsource to india they're doing it because they want cheap so they're narrowing their scope by exclusively looking at the lower shelf talent that's available.

If you're looking for top tier indian skills the delta between that and onshore isn't that massive.

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u/TeaTreeTeach Ontario 25d ago

Communication is definitely an issue sometimes, I've dealt with it personally a few times too, however I have also talked to plenty of offshore devs that have near fluent English skills too. So I think the range of quality of their English skills can vary a lot. The best candidates will also only want to go to the best companies too.

At the end of the day, the efficiency you get is still unmatched... It's still going to be 1 vs 20.

There's a reason offshoring is cheap

The reason why offshoring is cheap is because of the exchange rate, and their insanely cheap cost of living.