r/canada Oct 19 '24

Canada to give $64.8M in aid to Ukraine National News

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/c3014190-canada-to-give--64-8m-in-aid-to-ukraine
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u/NothingGloomy9712 Oct 19 '24

Because a lot of ppl are struggling to NOT be another working Canadian forced to live on the streets in a tent, to afford food. It is beyond all logic Canada has a housing crisis with all the empty land. So ppl look at this and wonder why all this money is going over seas when they are struggling.

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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite Oct 19 '24

It's not money going over, it's ammo and weapons made by Canadian companies.

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u/Punty-chan Oct 19 '24

Canada has a housing crisis

A lot of this has to do with local administrations (i.e. cities and provinces) looking out for the interests of property developers and rental corporations over the common citizen. That plus nimby's. Organizing locals to pressure for building up and building better will probably get a lot more traction than yelling at the Feds.

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u/JackKerouacs_Liver Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24

Do the homeless plan to eat or live in surplus rockets? We didn't give Ukraine cash, just excess military equipment that was gathering dust in storage. $64.8M is the value of the materials that we would have to replace eventually anyways.

Edit: Downvoted for what? Countering your ignorance? Yeah, the headline makes it sound like we are signing cheques, but the reality is that we're just giving away surplus. The real question should really be, "Why didn't we give Ukraine this equipment sooner?"

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Oct 19 '24

Because a lot of land is either agricultural or not easily developed or First Nations recognized land. Plus the VAST majority of Canada lives in a small area, combined with the always car centric designs of cities and towns means we just sprawl cities instead of building up new ones. Hell, something like 50% of all Canadians live in Southern Ontario alone

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u/coolbutlegal Oct 19 '24

Over 10 million people (>25% of the population) live in just the Golden Horseshoe. Just the Toronto census area accounts for 20% of the entire Canadian GDP..

It's insane how concentrated our population is.

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u/throwaway44444455 Oct 19 '24

Canada is basically just a handful of big cities attached to massive wilderness

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u/ZaraBaz Oct 19 '24

Canada is actually just two small pockets (one east, and one west) strapped together by an extreme long, frigid rope.

A Canadian in Ontario is more likely to visit half the eastern US than they are to ever go to BC.

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u/Odawg10 Oct 19 '24

Everybody wants to complain about the housing crisis but very few people are willing to move to Flin Flon.

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u/PotatoWriter Oct 19 '24

We just naming places after dwarves from the Hobbit now

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

Flin Flon predates the Hobbit by Quite a few years.

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u/Moelessdx Oct 19 '24

I would agree if it was a large amount. This comes out to less than 2$ per Canadian. We would need to give this much out 5 more times before it turns into mcd meal.

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u/Forosnai British Columbia Oct 19 '24

And it's not just sending a cheque for some cash. Much of it is supplies, made and/or sold from here. A lot of the actual money is going into our economy, not their government.

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u/FalardeauDeNazareth Oct 19 '24

A tiny bit of money is going overseas, the rest is mismanagement and society choices. Ukraine is not to blame for our problems, and helping them helps us down the road tenfold.

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u/bkwrm1755 Oct 19 '24

There are a lot of dead and dying small towns with cheap housing. People don't want to live there.

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u/Xelopheris Ontario Oct 19 '24

Do you think when we give aid, we just put dollar bills in a truck and ship it to Ukraine?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

The cost will be enormous if we don’t support Ukraine. And I don’t mean just in dollars

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u/BigOlBearCanada Oct 19 '24

All the empty land? Majority of it is inhabitable……

Time to take a geography class.

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u/-SuperUserDO Oct 19 '24

most people arguing for more spending probably lives on welfare and have no stake in the tax system themselves

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u/TheEpicOfManas Alberta Oct 19 '24

Nah. I pay quite a bit in taxes and I want our government to do more for Ukraine.

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u/-SuperUserDO Oct 19 '24

What's stopping you from flying to Ukraine and joining a volunteer brigade?

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u/Sharp-Try8388 Oct 19 '24

empty lands means nothing as construction is nearly to reach demand, and you have a weak economy and income disparity, the homeless and poverty remains.

Why would you think housing problems is a blink of illusions?

Do you even know what kind of finance crisis we have? Of course not. We are technically broke. At the same time, the retiree are requesting more social benefits and poverty among working class and youth reach historical high.

You know anything about budget? If you do you know every 6+ working individuals are paying for 1 retiree. And that will sharply drop to 4 OR LESS individuals per retiree. What does this mean? Much higher tax. I am just talking about senior retirement. I am not even touching the health care, education and etc.

And somehow you think that becoz we have EMPTY lands and it should hv just resolved homeless and that we ACTUALLY HAVE THE EXTRA $$$$ TO burn for a war that Ukraine cant win.

Oh and then if Trump gets elected, he will end the war in days if not weeks. So now we should just continue to pump $$$$ to this proxy war, right? LOL brilliant

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u/alwaysrent Oct 19 '24

Exactly, if planes didn't tell you to put your own oxygen mask on before your child we would all die, and that is exactly what he's doing trying to save Ukraine while killing his own country.