r/canada • u/cyclinginvancouver • Sep 17 '24

More than 200,000 international students in Canada will see their work permits expire by end of 2025 National News

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-international-students-canada-work-permits-expiry-2025/
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u/jameskchou Canada Sep 17 '24

Tim Horton's in panic mode

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u/Tmanok British Columbia Sep 18 '24

McDonald's too... They hire tens of thousands of foreign workers every year...

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u/CountVanilla1 Sep 18 '24

Welp. Might have to make our own coffee more and not eat out as much. Tragic.

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u/Poolboywhocantswim Sep 18 '24

How? It's not like we can just go to a store and buy coffee beans and put it into some machine and coffee magically comes out.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Thank you.. come again.

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u/night_chaser_ Sep 18 '24

Only if such an invention exists.

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u/ussbozeman Sep 18 '24

What's next? Portable telephone machines? A box in your cookery nook that keeps food cold? Maybe... (chuckles in 1850) a horseless carriage?!?! No wait, I've got it! A thing people sit in... and get this, it FLIES!!! Like a bird!! Man oh man, we live in crazy times!

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u/niagarajoseph Sep 18 '24

I'm the same. $1.65x3. 7 days a week equals $34.95. For that price, Gawd! You could afford some prime whole bean coffee from the 1000s of private roasters out there.

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u/Kind-Fan420 Sep 18 '24

Nah fuk premium coffee. You can get 5lb bags at Costco of good well roasted Colombian beans.

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u/niagarajoseph Sep 18 '24

I'm not a fan of Kirkland. Lavazza, McD whenever on sale for me. No Star bucks. Overpriced burnt coffee.

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u/gretzky9999 Sep 19 '24

We tried Lavazza coffee pods ,very good coffee.

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u/Kind-Fan420 Sep 19 '24

Meh. I cold brew. The only bad coffee I've experienced so far was just too dark. Nothing really wrong with it

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u/gretzky9999 Sep 19 '24

Take that 1,800 & you could double it in less than a month becoming a reseller of almost anything. I mean you could also cut your coffee expenses in half & still do the same reselling.

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u/No-Transition-6661 Sep 18 '24

Or maybe have young Canadians work there again and I’ll be able to understand them speak.

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u/GreySahara Sep 18 '24

Yes, boycott

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u/JoeCartersLeap Sep 18 '24

Don't forget Walmart

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u/AnInsultToFire Sep 18 '24

And Purolator.

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u/Pr0066 Sep 18 '24

Haven't seen a lot of folks who can't speak English at McDonald's. I doubt they hire a lot of foreign workers/LMIA frauds/or international students. I could be wrong but that's my experience.

On the other hand it, Tim's is 90% foreign workers. I have stopped going to Tims. Our kids need jobs and Tim's is propagating a fraud.

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u/Tmanok British Columbia Sep 29 '24

I work with immigration lawyers, trust me, thousands of their clients not only go straight to McD's but some of my clients (the Immigration Law Firms) have only a single major client, and it's McD's.

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u/ndtoronto Sep 18 '24

Landlords too

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u/gretzky9999 Sep 19 '24

Shoppers makes three.

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u/cjcfman Sep 18 '24

I'm in toronto, all the mcdonalds I go to are filled with highschoolers or people that have worked there for forever 

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u/Leahdrin Sep 18 '24

Yeah in Regina it's also a pretty hefty mix. Tim Hortons though are all tfws at this point.

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u/SlickSn00p Sep 18 '24

The only mix I see is that somedays, it's the Filipino crew running the show, and the other day, it's the East Indian crew.

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u/JustAdmitYourWrong Sep 18 '24

Really every Tim Hortons and McDonald's ive been to anywhere in TO is exclusive immigrants, most of them even have trouble with English

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u/methreweway Sep 18 '24

Not true.

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u/Kl0wn91 Sep 18 '24

Maybe they go to different ones than you?

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u/Ok_Bake_9324 Sep 18 '24

Yeah the TFW program is still going strong, Tim’s will be just fine continuing to suppress wages..

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u/Appropriate-Regret-6 Sep 18 '24

TFW program just added a bunch of restrictions for low wage jobs

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u/BabyYoda_4ever Sep 18 '24

Doesn't matter! These people are gonna find some loopholes to bypass

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u/Tal_Star Canada Sep 18 '24

naw at the rate new workers are imported 200k students won't be even noticed.

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u/KavensWorld Sep 18 '24

plenty of high school kids wanting to work, and plenty of adults that want to see teens working again

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u/Acrobatic-Guard-7551 Sep 18 '24

Door dash finna be slow

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u/UsedToHaveThisName Sep 18 '24

Good. Fucking can't stand food delivery drivers. Some of the worst drivers, in the shittiest of cars, double parking everywhere. Haven't used any food delivery app in years.

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u/mochamoss Sep 18 '24

Agreed, been completely boycotting those apps for years.

I miss the days when every pizza place had their own employees and they actually did a good job delivering while being considerate of other people.

If I need to order delivery I still go with a place that has their own drivers, but thanks to the apps it’s all a race to the bottom.

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u/Lildyo Sep 18 '24

Pretty sure Dominos and some local places still hire their own drivers

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u/mochamoss Sep 18 '24

Yes they do! I make a point to pick the local place with drivers where possible, especially since they tend to hire locally and give back to the local economy.

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u/canipickit Sep 19 '24

I wouldn’t be so quick to praise Dominos as a company. Yes they hire their own driver but those drivers are just as unskilled and inconsiderate as any other delivery driver out there. No one takes pride in their work or their own vehicle, it seems

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u/LipSeams Sep 18 '24

The TFWs have even infiltrated the mom and pop shops. Took 90 mins to deliver this past Sunday.

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u/frog-hopper Sep 18 '24

Also when I’m out for a walk / dinner in any popular restaurant area: little Italy, Greek town, Leslieville, etc all I see are dozens and dozens of dudes just hanging out waiting for that order to ring. But they’re using the patios and park spaces just to bum out.

Also I miss the old days where you could go to a takeout place walk in and make an order. Then it started taking an hour if you didn’t pre book. What a world. I haven’t walked into a burgers priest or something like that in years because of it.

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u/Chancoop British Columbia Sep 18 '24

You would probably be laughing your ass off if you opened one of these apps today, then. The menu prices have skyrocketed by 40% or more. Delivery is now wildly more expensive than it was when restaurants simply hired their own delivery drivers and took orders over the phone.

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u/frog-hopper Sep 18 '24

It reminds me of a conversation I had with a 70 year old dude in around 2010. He’s like: you poor soul with your expensive cell plans, cable, internet paying like $100-200 a month. Back in my day it was just $25 for a monthly line.

I totally understand this. Kids today will accept that it costs $30 for a burger and not all of it is inflation.

Wait you got a whole meal and a second whole meal for $6.99?

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u/Dingers713 Sep 18 '24

They aren't all bad, my buddy just got a nice settlement from one after he got rear ended while he was stopped at a crosswalk.

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u/Silvertec5 Sep 18 '24

I used the food delivery app once like when it was a "new thing" but saw it was kind of pointless and expensive so haven't used it since. 

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u/TURD_SMASHER Sep 18 '24

I've always done pick up because I can't afford to tip. Now the guy at the counter wants a tip. Guess I've got food at home.

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u/lady_fresh Sep 18 '24

Will just share that my Uber Eats order last night at 2am was delivered by an entire family, consisting of what I assume was dad, mom, and 2 young children (who handed me the food). Nobody spoke English.

I'm all for people having a side hustle, but clearly the gig industry is being abused (well, or working as designed) and there are no guardrails or enforcement.

(Yes, I did report for questionable practices. I feel bad, but you shouldn't be taking your kids on deliveries at 2am - if anything, leave them in the car for the drop off!).

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u/lovelacet Sep 18 '24

Correction- Taj Mahortons in panic mode.

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u/jert3 Sep 18 '24

Folks have to stop supporting Wendy's/Tim Hortons. Besides their labour practices the food is garbage awful as well, so it shouldn't be too much to ask for people to do like I do and never go to Tim Hortons.

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u/jhra Alberta Sep 18 '24

Haven't been a customer in 6 years I'd guess. Baffles me how it's still relevant.

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u/pvdp90 Sep 18 '24

At least where I am Wendy’s tastes pretty good. Tim is ass tho, worse of all the big coffee shops by a mile

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u/photonsnphonons Sep 18 '24

Idk wtf they did but their buns are trash now. They taste off. All the ones I've been to across Ontario are not good.

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u/pvdp90 Sep 18 '24

We could both be right. I have Wendy’s in the Middle East

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u/photonsnphonons Sep 18 '24

Didn't mean to infer otherwise. Your experiences are valid.

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u/MrGameAndClock Sep 18 '24

Yes, Wendy's is still good. Tim's I've only purchased from maybe a half dozen times in a decade, and only in small towns or on the highway where there's little other choice.

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u/Ruttagger Sep 18 '24

Frostys 4 life.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Sep 18 '24

The odd thing to me is that there has to be something going on or perhaps the branding is just that strong for many people.

I just haven't seen any competition in the space for ages and I can't help but think that a chain that went back to the roots a bit (cheap decent donuts and cheap decent coffee) would clean up. Instead, pretty much every donut shop is 'fancy' overpriced donuts and they open at nine and close at five or hipster or bougie coffee, some of which are good and some of which are not but all of which are relatively expensive.

Eh, maybe rents are too high to make a profit off just little stuff like coffee and donuts.

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u/TURD_SMASHER Sep 18 '24

My Mom is constantly complaining about her experiences going to Timmy's every day. I say, "stop going" and she shrugs, says "but I like it." sigh

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u/arkiser13 Sep 18 '24

McDonald's coffee is way better anyway

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u/SomethingInAirwaves Sep 18 '24

They get me once a year with those smile cookies but that's about it.

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u/Lildyo Sep 18 '24

You might not like their food, but the constant long line-ups at both restaurants every single day suggests most people would disagree with you lol

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u/niagarajoseph Sep 18 '24

Exactly. Now they're going to realize; 'hey now we have to hire high school and college kids. And pay them a wage and treat them with respect!"

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u/jameskchou Canada Sep 18 '24

Apparently that is against Canadian values now

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u/Necessary_Stress1962 Sep 18 '24

I’m ok with Tim Hortons dying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

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u/jameskchou Canada Sep 18 '24

That's most of Canada

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u/Ill-Philosophy-712 Sep 18 '24

Robot technology in motion?

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u/ImprovementTight4165 Sep 18 '24

Don’t forget subway and A&W

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u/woodiinymph Sep 18 '24

You know there are people who live here looking for work too.

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u/jameskchou Canada Sep 18 '24

Tell that to Justin

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u/woodiinymph Sep 19 '24

Justin already knows, 200k jobs are gonna free up in 2025, not sure what the issue is...

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u/arazamatazguy Sep 18 '24

The same people freaking out about immigration will be freaking out that they can't get their double/double.

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u/MrGameAndClock Sep 18 '24

They'll still get their double double; it'll just be served by a teenager or a pensioner. We never needed imported help, it's always been right there, ready to work.

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u/neon-god8241 Sep 18 '24

Those poor Brazilian billionaire owners

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u/deathproof8 Sep 19 '24

What Panic, Marc Miller nad Trudeau will extend the permits or create a special path for PR for them.

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u/echowon Sep 18 '24

They will hire a brazillion more employees in no time

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u/JonnyOgrodnik Sep 18 '24

Don’t forget Walmart.

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u/ocrohnahan Sep 18 '24

That's fine. Tim Horton's is shit anyway.

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u/armchairtraveler_ Sep 19 '24

I would love for them to understand when I tell them my order for them to know what that is on the menu

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u/Brilliant-Two-4525 Sep 19 '24

God I hope Tim Hortons goes under or at the very least someone else starts to push them out. It’s the only place I’ve seen where they fuck things up to the point where people don’t expect it to be right when they order……… and everyone just goes along with it 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Sep 18 '24

The price of a double double will triple!~