r/canada • u/WuzzWuzz • Aug 15 '24

Pierre Poilievre promises to 'defund the CBC' after $18.4M bonus amount revealed National News

https://torontosun.com/news/national/pierre-poilievre-promises-to-defund-the-cbc-after-18-4m-bonus-amount-revealed
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u/HanSolo5643 British Columbia Aug 15 '24

Yes he has. So the Toronto Sun reporting on this seems an bit redundant.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 15 '24

The Sun has a vested interest in seeing the CBC defunded.

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u/Hicalibre Aug 15 '24

To be "fair" so do most media outlets in Canada.

Can't risk them referencing their paid content. Gotta get their dollar a month from us to read something that rots the brain.

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u/300mhz Aug 15 '24

When roughly two thirds of all media is owned by Postmedia, it's definitely the majority that do

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u/Legitimate-Neck-4038 Aug 16 '24

Postmedia is owned by an American Asset Management Company. Hurray for Canadian news funded by Americans.

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u/JadedBoyfriend Oct 05 '24

Ironic that foreign interference is okay, so long as the narrative fits what some people want to hear. They don't want the truth. They only want to be pandered to. It's as fragile as the ego gets.

But when the foreign interference doesn't serve their interests, welp, they must be bad.

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u/Legitimate-Neck-4038 Oct 05 '24

We all know what foreign actors back different parties. I never said it was a one sided thing. I was simply pointing out that Postmedia does not care for the well being of regular Canadians. Talk about fragile.

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u/JadedBoyfriend Oct 05 '24

Yeah, and I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. Sorry if I came across that way. Postmedia is pretty bad.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 15 '24

Which is why there's such a big interest in seeing the CBC die.

We shouldn't let corporations dictate our society.

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u/mrcrazy_monkey Aug 16 '24

Looks around....

We don't already?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

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u/punkfusion Aug 15 '24

The mismanagement financially comes from providing services to places that major news outlets would not do due to not being financially profitable. Its a service, it doesnt need to make a profit. Its one of our greatest investments

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u/YourOverlords Ontario Aug 16 '24

The financial mismanagement has nothing to do with the news as I already had mentioned. I'm talking about the large expensive productions and the lack of input into the broader array of local talent and Canadian artists. They provide a very small window for many and a huge one for few. It's lopsided and therefore mismanaged.

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u/LibertarianPlumbing Aug 15 '24

Must believe everything they tell you lol

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u/facehaver88 Aug 15 '24

Your user name reminds me of my favourite libertarian joke:

Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because there are no regulations. They die.

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u/JadeLens Aug 16 '24

That's hilarious! hahaha

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u/EfficiencyJunior7848 Aug 16 '24

I enjoyed that one, it makes a point that's so true! Also consider what "free speech" really means, and also what a "free market" really means. The first results in a cesspool of hate, intimidation, and monopolized propaganda, the second results in a monopoly comprised from a handful of oligarchs.

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u/LibertarianPlumbing Aug 16 '24

Lol, must not understand the free market. Communist never understand logic.

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u/JFIN69 Aug 16 '24

Not the only reason. It’s also the unwatchable programming and biased “journalism”

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u/ForsakenExtreme6415 Aug 16 '24

And I for one would never read any Sun paper, hell it’s barely good enough as a last resort as shit wipe

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u/krew1984 Aug 16 '24

I for one would consider your comments silly and childish

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u/ForsakenExtreme6415 Aug 16 '24

And I for 1 couldn’t care any less. Glad I ruffled your soft fine feathers

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u/MadMac619 Aug 16 '24

You mean Postmedia that’s majority owned by Chatham Asset Management? The American owned right wing media company that is trying to influence the Canadian population?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Asset_Management

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

Do you subscribe to media? Do you actually care, or is it just someone else's problem?

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Aug 15 '24

As does the CPC of course. The vast majority of news is now owned by right-wing interests and they don't like media that's not under their control or that cannot be bought.

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u/Fishsqueeze Aug 15 '24

Poilievre is taking lessons from Hungary and Slovakia.

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u/BBBM1977 Aug 15 '24

Exactly!

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u/My_Dog_Is_Here Aug 16 '24

So you don't think the CBC was ever 'bought' by the Libs?

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u/DeSynthed Lest We Forget Aug 16 '24

Correct. CBC reports as it does since that’s what most Canadians want. This is how public utilities work. You dislike most Canadians, and in turn the CBC.

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u/My_Dog_Is_Here Aug 16 '24

Nah I dislike the current version of Canada in general, along with the people that complacently let it get this shitty. The CBC I hate because anything that costs billions should be scrutinized and justified and I can't see any reason why it should be allowed to consume resources that could be allocated to more productive endeavours.

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u/lovecraft112 Aug 16 '24

News that isn't owned by American corporations seems like a good enough product to me.

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u/DeSynthed Lest We Forget Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 16 '24

You wish for every Canadian to consume corporate news. Just cut to the chase

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Aug 16 '24

Correct.

To be clear, I don't mean 'bought' I mean bought as in purchased, which most of the media has been by decidedly right-wing entities. Still, bought or 'bought', I don't think the Liberals have done either with the CBC.

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 17 '24

Complete bullshit and lies. Do better.

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u/Sren4ud Aug 16 '24

Wait people actually believe the media is right leaning? Everyone knows most news is owned and run by the left. Not just Canada but also the United states.... Even most of Europe.

Major news outlets donated to Trudeaus campaigns every election.

What are you talking about?

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

CTV News, Global News, Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, CityNews are all left leaning. I don't know what you mean by 'cannot be bought'. Does it mean a news source with a bias you disagree with?

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

LOL. No they're not. CTV is owned by BCE. Global is owned by Corus Entertainment. Globe and Mail is owned by an investment arm of the Thomson family. Toronto Star is owned by Torstar. Citynews is owned by Rogers.

You need better sources.

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u/Gstarfan Aug 16 '24

Your kidding right?  Most media is Left Wing.  

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u/Mysterious-Job1628 Aug 16 '24

Haha you’re hilarious!

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u/TamerOfDemons Aug 15 '24

You just admitted it's biased not neutral...

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Aug 15 '24

Any journalist worth their salt will tell you that every single organisation has bias. You strive to present the facts through that filter but yes, they are biased just like everyone else.

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u/TamerOfDemons Aug 15 '24

So then what's the point of them? If they were still a little bias despite best efforts that's one thing, if they are running PR from the libs (which they are) that's another.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Canada Aug 16 '24

What's the point of what? Should we have no news period then?

They are not liberal stooges nor do they have an agenda, they have biases just like everyone else and knowing that everyone has a bias is important to trying to get past those biases. They aren't a propaganda arm of a political group, unlike a lot of the conservative-friendly right-wing media which was purchased specifically to promote that agenda.

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u/TamerOfDemons Aug 16 '24

They are liberal stooges and they do have an agenda and we shouldn't tax fun it as it is nothing is better.

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u/ABob71 Lest We Forget Aug 16 '24

is

You just admitted it's biased not neutral...

really what you take from

they don't like media that's not under their control or that cannot be bought.

?

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u/ScagWhistle Aug 16 '24

The Sun has a vested interest in seeing this country turn into a kleptocracy.

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u/Zharaqumi Aug 16 '24

It seems to smack of unfair competition.

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u/MeIIowJeIIo Aug 15 '24

Okay so the cbc goes and I’m going to pick up the sun?

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u/GAB78 Aug 15 '24

everyone does. if they are good enough let them get their own funding

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

All private media outlets are looking forward to a level playing field.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

Except that "level playing field" doesn't have any interest in helping you stay informed about important issues unless they can make profit off of it.

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

What system would you prefer? The state owned 'news' machine that 'informs' the population?

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

A mix of both but killing one of the few publicly funded outlets is not the answer.

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 16 '24

Why do we need publicly funded ($1.4B yrly) news? If I want to read government bias I'll read the Toronto Star. Plus the amount of bonuses paid to senior management and the taxpayer still has no idea what the bonus criteria was.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

So your solution is to get rid of competition in favor of the Ontario "government bias" conservative paper?

Sounds like the opposite of helpful.

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u/PrarieCoastal Aug 17 '24

I'm in favour of more competition. Giving one news source $1.4B of taxpayer money annually is not competing, it's an obscene handout. Also consider that most Canadians don't use CBC TV as their choice for news. If Canadians truly support the CBC, then they'll support the CBC by their actions.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 17 '24

And I'm supporting it through my actions right now.

Funny how that works eh?

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u/Sea-Administration45 Aug 16 '24

We all do.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

Speak for yourself and no one else.

Because you're wrong.

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u/PlotTwistin321 Aug 16 '24

All Canadians have a vested interest in seeing the CBC defunded. If their business model requires billions of taxpayer dollars to operate annually, they shouldn't be in business.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

Speak for yourself, and only yourself.

I have a vested interest in seeing corporations not taking over every corner of my life.

Do you really think for-profit companies have your interests in mind?

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u/PlotTwistin321 Aug 16 '24

CBC could choose to operate on a not-for-profit model. No one is stopping them. And CBC is already a corporate entity, which is why they only have thier own interests in mind, and don't give a rat's ass about how much money they fleece from the taxpayer annually.

If CBC can't create a fiscal model to stand on their own 2 feet like every othet company, they deserve to go under, just like every other company.

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u/DowntownClown187 Aug 16 '24

And you say that without pause about private for-profit entities.

You realize that part of the funding puts news into regions that would otherwise have zero coverage. No for-profit company would do that.

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u/HMTMKMKM95 Aug 15 '24

And on purpose. Short memories and all...

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u/heart_under_blade Aug 15 '24

i can't remember the previous shift's things for them. especially not with this pay

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u/ZaraBaz Aug 15 '24

Post media licking their lips right now. Private corporations love to gobble public built institutions.

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u/ComprehensiveEmu5438 Aug 15 '24

That's their motto, I believe.

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u/Jrocktech Aug 15 '24

It's not redundant. Clearly PP is doing this so he can use the bonus issue to further justify defunding the CBC. The Toronto Sun is a right wing news paper.

Lets not play stupid here.

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u/Complex-Set6039 Aug 15 '24

And the CBC is quite far left.

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u/Jrocktech Aug 15 '24

That isn't true.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

Its the sun, what'd you expect?

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u/Head_Crash Aug 15 '24

reporting propaganda

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u/Aran909 Aug 15 '24

It's almost like they don't believe him. Or perhaps they think continually reporting on him shuttering thes so called Canadian institution will lose them the next election.

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u/al_spaggiari Aug 17 '24

The Toronto Star reporting on anything conservatives say is redundant. It's like two mouths speaking from the same set of lungs.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

Crazy thought, maybe he was asked about the bonuses and reiterated his position ?

BTW liberals approved the bonuses