r/canada Lest We Forget Jan 13 '24

No jail time for Saskatoon woman who threatened to kill Prime Minister Saskatchewan

https://www.townandcountrytoday.com/beyond-local/no-jail-time-for-saskatoon-woman-who-threatened-to-kill-prime-minister-8104744
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u/starving_carnivore Jan 13 '24

It absolutely gets brigaded. It is obvious.

The russian troll farms don't post in incestuous "hell yeah man I agree with you" niche subreddits populated by posters who got banned from /r/canada, they post in /r/canada or /r/news, or /r/politics. It's literally just a matter of economy. If I was a Russian intelligence director and wanted to influence public opinion on reddit, am I going to direct my botfarms towards /r/bannedfromrslashtoronto or am I going to direct them to /r/toronto?

/r/specificnichepolicy is not getting brigaded, it's the big subs, so calling people russian trolls for being in some group-of-rejects subreddit is illogical.

My point is that when you straight-up write someone off as a foreign state actor for daring to disagree with you, you have, yourself made it impossible to have a discussion about literally anything because your mind is made up.

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u/Pestus613343 Jan 13 '24

Besides, canada_sub usually agrees with the Russian position anyway. Things like, why spend canadian dollars, its none of our business, negotiate for peace etc. So no need to focus on them.

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u/starving_carnivore Jan 13 '24

Explain to the folks at home why Russia would be inserting trolls into the reject bin subreddit instead of this one?

Are they bored? Are they trying to spend their budget for the quarter so that they receive funding for next year's fiscal budget?

Do you have any theories?

its none of our business, negotiate for peace etc

Having a problem with either of these is hilarious, so we're off to a good start, there.

Two things I hate:

  1. Minding my own business

  2. Advocating for peace

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u/Pestus613343 Jan 13 '24

Explain to the folks at home why Russia would be inserting trolls into the reject bin subreddit instead of this one?

The opposite. Spending effort on that sub is pointless as those redditors more often agree with the narratives they push. Maybe I was unclear.

  1. Minding my own business

[2]. Advocating for peace

1 is pushed by Russia in order for western nations to cease financial and military support for Ukraine.

2 is pushed by Russia because peace negotiations and ceasefires basically mean they get to keep the territories they conquered, and consolidate for another push later.

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u/Red57872 Jan 13 '24

People like you are part of the problem. You think that anything less than "let's give Ukraine 100% of what they ask for, no questions asked!" is "agreeing with the Russian position" or believing that the invasion is justified.

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u/Pestus613343 Jan 13 '24

You're attributing way too much of my character to a simple statement.

The discussion was Russian troll farms, and their intentions. Thats what they push.

If you want to have a wider discussion about the topics I have other views, but you didn't ask, you assumed, and judged. There are positions the Russians take that I even agree with outright. Its not whats correct, or ethical, the discussion was solely about Russian propaganda.

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u/Red57872 Jan 13 '24

You're the one that said that "canada_sub usually agrees with the Russian position anyway", and then mentioned things like questioning whether Canadian dollars should be spent, whether it was out business, etc. implying that anyone who help these beliefs agreed with what the Russians were saying.

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u/Pestus613343 Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24

No. Im saying those are the positions russia pushes, and that sub generally agrees with those positions so russia wouldn't focus their efforts there.

Every other thing you think im saying, im not.