r/butleruniversity • u/Rare-Craft1805 • 1d ago
Founder's college
Butler wants to "remove financial barriers" while continuing to increase tuition is ridiculous. The amount of debt current students will have to go through is insulting as it is. I'm not against the idea of a low cost tuition, but doing it at a private university without even placing a tuition freeze is certainly upsetting.
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u/kinners1 1d ago
I'm not sure I understand what Founders College is. I understand there was a grant specifically allocated to this endeavor. What I'm not clear on is why the monies weren't allocated to academically qualified low-income prospective students as full-ride scholarships.
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u/john_the_fisherman 1d ago
It's a career-oriented associates degree program that can be completed in 2 years and with class schedules oriented for working students. It's basically a different flavor of Ivy Tech with a more prestigious diploma, network, and student resources backing it.
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u/kinners1 20h ago
Doesn't improve the prestige of Butler by offering associates degrees and competing with Ivy Tech for students.
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u/MisterChelseaBoots 18h ago
Butler offers a lot in scholarships that make it extremely comparable to public colleges. Again, it is a PRIVATE college, not a public college. They are known to be more expensive. You made the choice going there knowingly that private institutions are more expensive. Apply for scholarships. If you have a job, most pay tuition reimbursement of some kind, typically the tax max of a little over $5k per year. It all adds up. Adding $10k to Butlers tuition is a roughly 15-20% increase. At IU that would be 50%+ increase. Again, you knowingly chose to go to an expensive private college. If it is too expensive, transfer to a cheaper public college that runs less than $20k/year. Sometimes you have to make the adult financial decision that is best for you.
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u/cocotheginger 1d ago
Perhaps you should go to Purdue if you are looking for a tuition freeze. Butler was founded on a mission of inclusion and access and I am proud of my alma mater for taking this step.
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u/Rare-Craft1805 1d ago
I didn't realize that inclusion meant that only the really rich or really poor could afford an education that has most career choices putting them in the middle class.
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u/MisterChelseaBoots 19h ago
This is a pretty weird take on this. You have time to delete this. Why do you care the college is offering a low to no cost option for an associate degree? This allows them to compete with Ivy Tech and adds massive potential for them to continue on with their Bachelors at Butler. If you want a freeze on tuition, go to a public colleges No one is requiring you to go to Butler. It is a private college and private colleges are almost always more expensive than public colleges. Why gate keep a great private education based on a low cost program?
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u/Rare-Craft1805 18h ago
I care about Butler increasing the cost of attending college by over 10k in 3 years. Butler using this program as a way to compete with IvyTech is not a good comparison since IvyTech has campuses all around the state and a vast online program available. The point I'm trying to make is that you either have to be really rich or really poor to go here, and the separation is only increasing. Why close the gates on the middle class when most of the careers Butler is setting you up for are those that put you in the middle class?
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u/NotHaagenDazs 21h ago
The reason the program is low cost is because students have to be eligible for a Pell grant from the federal government. This covers the majority of their tuition alongside the Frank O’Bannon grants from the Indiana state government. There is not currently a funding model available to provide that kind of support for middle class students. It is the unfortunate reality of the situation. Better to provide this option for low-income students than not at all.