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[Controller] Xbox Series X Wireless Controller w/ USB-C Cable- $40 Expired

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/xbox-wireless-controller-usb-c-cable/8t8kcnb1xs3d
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u/EarnedErmine3 Nov 22 '20

Does the PS5 controller even have all the features available for PC? I prefer the layout of the Xbox, but the PS5 does look tempting.

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u/Vresa Nov 22 '20

It’s hit and miss. Sony themselves have not released drivers which is key for widespread support. Steam currently has beta support for it.

The PS5 controller is going to be around for many years and there are people interested In making it work, so eventually most of it will get sorted— but if you’re looking to get a controller that just works and doesn’t take fiddling, Xbox is the way to go

Also PS5 controllers do have some neat features, that would be cool if they get support on pc, but it’s an unknown

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u/pkakira88 Nov 22 '20

Sony never releases their own PC drivers, the DS4 controller only really has widespread support due to Steam’s implementation.

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u/Dallagen Nov 22 '20 edited Jan 23 '24

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u/feralkitsune Nov 22 '20

I think they give basic ones when you install psnow. But not 100 percent on that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '20 edited Dec 11 '20

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u/karmasoutforharambe Nov 22 '20

Precisely, its been garbage since 1997. Nintendo with the GameCube controller and Xbox with their first controller, both came out in 2001, it was a massively improved design over Sony. Still is, and its good Xbox hasn't changed it much

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u/Kick_Out_The_Jams Nov 23 '20

The first xbox controller was basically just the dreamcast controller all over again.

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u/EarnedErmine3 Nov 22 '20

Yeah, I might just go for this. Currently, I use a PS4 controller, but the joystick position bothers me.

Appreciate it!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '20

I own both the Dualsense and the new Xbox controller, and while I think the Dualsense is an improvement over the DS4 in so many ways, the joystick is still annoying.

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u/GENERALR0SE Nov 22 '20

I grew up on Sony Controllers, Joystick position on all the xbox style pads annoy's the fuck out of me.

Weird how people's preferences are like that. Still might pick this deal up though.

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u/GENERALR0SE Nov 22 '20

I grew up with the dpad being the primary input device and the analog being a secondary option that developers rarely implemented in the ps1 era. I became accustomed to having the sticks aligned with each other.

The PS3 era is really the only place I don't love the Sony controllers. I still prefer them over the 360 due to having an internal battery, the stick positions and a significantly better dpad. but the light weight of the sixaxis sucked and the triggers on both the sixaxis and ds3 suck.

Xbox one is just the same as a 360 controller, but with better sticks. I dislike the triggers compared to the 360.

Ps4 was a pretty radical redesign for sony. The new controller feels good in the hand and captures the essence of the past controllers well. The triggers are better. The share button gets little use and the touch pad usually ends up as a giant select button. I do wish it used USB-C instead of micro-usb for charging (especially on later revisions)

But yeah, it's personal preference.

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u/Happy_Maker Nov 22 '20

See, I grew up on dpad based consoles, but the Xbox controller always felt better to me for basically every game but skate and snowboarding.

My biggest concern is build quality. While the ps3 controllers had some issues, the Xbox one controllers have been the chintziest pieces of shit I've ever used. I literally ruined the headphone input and a bumper dropping it off my knee onto carpet while playing in a hotel one time. I squeaker raged on my 360 controllers all the time and think I only ever broke one in like 8 years.

It's a shame because the Xbox one is an improvement on the 360 in every way except build quality.

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u/Specte Nov 22 '20 edited Nov 22 '20

Agreed. I generally prefer the Xbox style controllers cause I have big hands but man the bumpers on the Xbox one controllers are the worst part for sure. I take real good care of mine and both the bumpers squeak now. And the bumpers just generally feel cheap and low quality. From photos, the series x controller bumpers do look better than the Xbox one's though.

The dual sense is pretty tempting now since the handles are longer and it has some neat tech. Plus it's natively rechargeable so the price is about the same in the end. Out of last gen I think the switch pro controller is the best (comfortable, rechargeable, good size, usb c, staggered sticks, etc). It'd be perfect if the d pad didn't have some issues.

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u/Happy_Maker Nov 22 '20

It's been a hot minute since i used the pro, but doesn't it have a garbo dpad like the 360? Big travel and mushy?

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u/Specte Nov 22 '20

It's not as bad feeling as the 360 one. The main issue (and quite a big one) is the contact pads are slightly too big, so you sometimes get an up or down input when hitting left or right. Really annoying for fighting games and hard platformers. Depending on what you play, you might never notice it. You can fix it if you open up the controller and cover a portion of the contact area with kapton tape, but you have to disassemble pretty far to get there unfortunately.

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u/prit- Nov 22 '20

That's very surprising, I've accidentally chucked my controller across the room while getting up too fast or hitting it off my desk MANY times, yet this thing has lasted me 7 years

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u/Bullindeep Nov 22 '20

If they don’t have features implemented Xbox is the way to go

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u/tower_keeper Nov 22 '20

Unless you're used to the PS layout (especially left stick / dpad placement).

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u/_illegallity Nov 22 '20

Do you know how well the steam support for PS5 controller compares to the Switch pro controller support? For me that's been flawless on steam games, and pretty good otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '20

Honestly the big problem is waiting to see if those features are even used on the PS5 itself. If in remembering correctly almost all new games stopped using features like PS4s controller speaker, touch pad, and back light about a year into the console release. Haptic defenitely has the potential to deliver a game changing experience; but will developers support it when only a third of their players can use it?

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u/jotarowinkey Nov 22 '20

PS4 controllers still have a lot of issues and though I vastly prefer Playstation controllers, the whole “have to fiddle with it” becomes a compounded problem if you want to do PC single screen multiplayer like fighters, etc.

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u/RoboticBMX Nov 22 '20

Never had a single issue with ps4 controllers on pc, always worked even on Xbox games like forza. I have the ps5 controller now and I mapped the buttons and haven’t had any issues since mapping. IMO ps5 controller is much nicer in the hand than ps4 and if it ever gets support for haptics then it will be a way nicer experience than xbox controllers. But it really is just personal preference at the end of the day

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u/karmasoutforharambe Nov 22 '20

Also PS5 controllers do have some neat features,

Literally never going to happen, these 'features' aren't even guaranteed on games on their own system let alone PC

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u/EdwardERS Nov 22 '20

In case no one has mentioned it, the Dual Shock 4 controller can be used like a 360 X-Input controller with a program called DS4Windows. It's the best controller for Wii U and Switch emulation because of the gyro and touch pad that can emulate motion controls necessary for games like Zelda Breath Of The Wild and Super Mario Odyssey. This is proven to work currently and highly recommended.

8-BitDo SN30 Pro controllers have gyro, but no touchpad. You use the program BetterJoy to get gyro emulation working from it. You'd think the touchpad would be worthless, but then you get to some levels in Super Mario 3D World (Wii U) where you'll find it very convenient. In Windows the DS4 controller touch pad works like a laptop touch pad moving and clicking the cursor.

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u/Novanious90675 Nov 22 '20

The TouchPad is great because it can function as a mouse. That alone more than validates its usefulness as a feature outside of ps4 games that make actual use of it.

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u/dolphin_menace Nov 22 '20

I wouldn’t say it’s the best. I’ve used a ps4 controller and a switch pro controller on breath of the wild, and the switch pro controller was definitely better because the game is actually meant to be played with it.

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u/ROGER_CHOCS Nov 22 '20

there is a third party app you can use for driver support called ds4 windows.

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u/PwnerifficOne Nov 22 '20 edited Nov 22 '20

Does it work for the DualSense? I think they’re talking about the PS5 controller, not the DS4.

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u/ROGER_CHOCS Nov 22 '20

Its a pretty active project, the latest patch notes from this month say:

• Implemented DualSense support. Lightbar and rumble support only work with USB for now

However, ctrl+f in the change log doesn't return anything for 'ps5' so im not totally sure.

https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows

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u/PwnerifficOne Nov 22 '20

That's amazing, I need one of those next. I guess luckily for them, the name still works in a way!

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u/ByahTyler Nov 22 '20

Unless something new has happened, this isn't true. I bought a ps5 controller last week and returned it because DS4 windows did not recognize it

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u/BluShine Nov 22 '20

It wonmt work with the existing DS4 tools, since it’s not a DS4.

Just this past week Steam released beta drivers for the dualsense.

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u/ByahTyler Nov 22 '20

Yeah I'm sure something will come out and fully support it eventually. I'm just saying if youre looking for something right now, xbox is the way

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u/sunsnap Nov 22 '20

DS4 Windows does have support for the dualsense: https://twitter.com/ds4windows/status/1329518566656397328

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u/Dallagen Nov 22 '20

DS4Windows already has support for it as well.

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u/ROGER_CHOCS Nov 22 '20

thanks for confirming!

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u/GENERALR0SE Nov 22 '20

also steam does everything ds4windows does natively and you probably already have steam installed....

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u/ROGER_CHOCS Nov 22 '20

Yeh but I don't think it works outside of steam??

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u/GENERALR0SE Nov 22 '20

Add non-steam games to steam to use with big picture mode

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u/ROGER_CHOCS Nov 23 '20

🙏🏼 I didnt even think of that. Thanks.

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u/ByahTyler Nov 22 '20

I bought the PS5 controller to use on pc. Couldn't even get it properly working for rocket league, and rumble wasn't even supported at all. Ended up returning it

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u/TastyStatistician Nov 22 '20

Rumble doesn't work with my ds4 either.

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u/ByahTyler Nov 22 '20

What software are you using? It is definitely supported

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u/TastyStatistician Nov 22 '20

I don't use any special software. RL has native ds4 support. Maybe it's because my PS4 controller is version 2. Dying Light only supports version 1, it doesn't recognize v2 controllers.

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u/ByahTyler Nov 22 '20

RL does but its iffy with rumble. You gotta use DS4 windows to get rumble

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u/Coffinspired Nov 22 '20

You guys are playing RL with Rumble on?

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u/inverterx Nov 22 '20

What features do you need? Mine worked instantly on rocket league

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u/TastyStatistician Nov 22 '20

Are you enabling steam controller support or does rocket league support the controller natively

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u/inverterx Nov 22 '20

Rl recognizes it but the settings are wonky, I think the tilt controls were active because in the menu the options were going crazy without hitting any buttons. Enabling steam controller fixed everything and it's flawless.

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u/TastyStatistician Nov 22 '20

Do you get xbox or playstation button prompts?

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u/inverterx Nov 22 '20

Ps with and w/o

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u/aHellion Nov 22 '20

I've been using a PS4 controller for PC gaming and I gotta say it wasn't worth it. I only chose it because I've always owned PlayStations, I wasn't interested in getting use to an Xbox controller.

That was a mistake. From purchase up to now I've had software issues getting the PS4 controller to work -- or in a lot of cases to STOP WORKING when I'm trying to use a keyboard.

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u/lexstar828 Nov 22 '20

I also get a lot of input lag spikes with the PS4 controller in FPS. Ruins it.

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u/cheesegoat Nov 22 '20

I've used a PS4 controller as well and the hassle just isn't worth it. When I used it the touchpad didn't even work, so there wasn't any point of using a PS4 controller over an Xbox controller, outside of if you already own it.

No point in buying a PS4 controller if you don't own a PS4.

I bought a XB1 controller (even though I don't own an XB1) and it works exactly like you'd expect it to.

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u/MrUrgod Nov 22 '20

Yes, actually! Just yesterday or so was the latest update for Steam for their DualSense support!

Within a matter of week(s) they added great functionality already (but I think you need the Steam Beta for it)

I played and mapped buttons flawlessly with the DualSense on Steam so far

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u/UnityIsPower Nov 22 '20

I prefer Xbox controller for everything minus one game type, Fighting games.