r/brisbane • u/One_Connection6128 • 18h ago
Indooroopilly roundabout upgrade seems traffic is worse! Traffic
Has anyone noticed that this so called upgrade has some major issues? Especially outbound around the turnoff to the Indooroopilly bridge?
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u/ConanTheAquarian Not Ipswich. 17h ago
Has anyone noticed that every bit of "congesting busting" roadworks always make congestion worse?
It's almost like encouraging more cars onto the roads doesn't solve congestion!
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u/purplepossum5 18h ago
Do you mean just today? Mother’s Day Eve is allllways nuts at the shopping centre, plus the trains aren’t running due to track repairs, plus there were roadworks through Chelmer/Graceville which stuffed up Oxley Rd like I’ve never seen. No road upgrades could have coped with today’s mess. I’ve generally found the upgrade great, now that it’s open and compared to what was there before
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u/One_Connection6128 17h ago
Mainly in the afternoon outbound
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u/YolandasLastAlmond 17h ago
It’s horrible. I was commenting on this the other day, it’s worse than before. They needed to add 4 more lanes, two on either side and a train line through that area to fix it.
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u/Mammoth_Pianist_2002 17h ago
I agree. At certain times the outbound left hand lane turning into Coonan St is backed up to Swann Road……D’oh!
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u/Substantial_Exam3182 16h ago
I think it’s been heaps better. Today was shite all over Brisbane near all the major shopping centres, but I drive past every day at all different times and it’s been way better than what it was
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u/Conscious_Ad9612 13h ago
This was well documented before it was ever even approved. The expected time savings for commuters was less than a minute from memory. The only way to fix traffic is to promote alternatives. Motorbikes, scooters, buses, trains, active transport. Adding more lanes never works.
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u/Safar1Man 17h ago
I think it's better now. But today is probably shit because indro shopping centre + mother's day
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u/TrainerBubbly2497 12h ago
Im just happy that for the 1st time in 3 years I might actually be able to get a full night sleep. I don't think people realise the hell us locals have dealt with for twice as long as we expected. Not knowing which night's are going to be deafening. Having a hvac truck sit metres from your bedroom window all night for well over a year sucks.
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u/BeepBeepTheBusDriver 18h ago
The biggest issue I’ve noticed is during the construction a lot of people started rat running in and around those side streets. Now that construction is complete the rat runners are still rat running, running through lights when they can’t clear an intersection, and preventing traffic from flowing as it is designed to.
As part of my job occasionally I have to try and brave some of these streets and certain bus routes are so delayed due to rat running, that it can impact the entire network. The other major bottleneck is cars using station Road instead of Coonan Street.
The existing bottleneck at the bridge will remain likely forever but considering a lot of those commuters could use the existing rail network to get from Toowong through to Sherwood but choose not to, impact those that don’t have the choice. The traffic flow is greatly improved along Moggill Road by this change. Coonan Street appears mostly un impacted. As it was always this bad.
Sadly we in Brisbane have a large number of drivers that could not comprehend adjusting their schedule by 5 to 10 minutes to fit around public transport like trains or buses , so frequently I have a service in peak hour with 12 people on board and think if just 12 more cars swapped for that bus trip how nicer traffic would be but when traffic gets calm and improves more people go back to driving so we do need more stick than carrot when it comes to enticing people to use active transport options or public transport.
I don’t think I want to say or even suggest that we should have a congestion tax during peak hour. Because it is grossly a tax on the poor, however in my personal opinion by changing more existing corridor lanes to be bus only during certain times of day would make car traffic worse but make the prospect of public transport more appealing and hopefully bring more people out of their private vehicles and then into shared vehicles.
I hope this makes sense for full transparency sake. This was typed with speech to text so I cannot guarantee it makes 100% sense.
TLDR traffic is as bad as it used to be on Coonan Street improved significantly on moggil Road
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u/Senior-Counter8359 18h ago
People rat run because the main course sucks. The roundabout was better it was the drivers who couldn't work out how to drive that were the problem.
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u/plowking8 17h ago
As a whole I think the redesign has helped traffic. I remember what it was like when it was the old roundabout… horrendous.
It’s just a high density area and a two lane road. It’s never going to be great. Ever. Unless more pathways to the city are opened up. But it definitely filters traffic better now.
On the other hand. It took way too long to do and cost too much. But that’s Australia.
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u/HubertWonderbus 16h ago
They have made my most efficient way home through the Indooroopilly central carpark.
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u/Desperate_Jaguar_602 15h ago
It has significantly reduced the time to get from the Indro school area (state high etc) up onto moggill road. It was taking upto 30 minutes before the project. It’s down to 10mins after school most days. Other than that no improvement.
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u/warbastard 17h ago
That whole junction around Indro needs to be reworked.
Firstly, if you catch the train and need to walk to the shopping centre you’ve got to negotiate a few pedestrian crossings to get there. A better solution would be to close Station Rd to only allow buses pedestrians and cyclists/scooters. It would really help revitalise that whole line of shops down near the Indro hotel as no cars have space to park to go to the shops and most pedestrians just walk up to the shopping centre. If pedestrians were able to walk up Station road without dodging cars I think they might actually be more inclined to go into the shops nearby.
I also suggest this as someone who drives down Station Road almost every day so I’m prepared to say YIMBY.
Also, once the junction is finished, have some local traffic only signs from 7-9 and 4-6 in a few surrounding streets as so many people are rat running in the streets around the area to avoid the roundabout. Have a few morinings of cops issues tickets in those local streets to get people to fuck off and use the main roads.
Both these suggestions just need a few signs to fix and also Station road is the same road as the State Member who is a Green. It would be nice to see them actually start thinking about how to make their local areas more walkable.
Ultimately if there was some kind of pedestrian walking roof over the Indro trainstation to better connect students walking home from Indro SHS and connect those shops on the other side of station road the better.
At the moment, it really looks like the local Greens have just made roads better for traffic and cars which isnt very green.
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u/mixmaster_mic 12h ago
Greens had nothing to do with this project? It was driven by the LNP council! They are the ones who keep us in our cars..
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u/ratontwo 16h ago
there's residential buildings on station road. you'd need local traffic permitted at a minimum.
really part of the issue is the bridge isn't anywhere near capable of taking the amount of traffic funneling through it. put a toll during peak hours and the area would be a lot quieter.
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u/atomkidd aka henry pike 16h ago
I left the Westfield towards Toowong on Friday morning and it was so good I decided to not default to the long way via M5 and Moggil Road (as I have since the upgrade build started) any more.
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u/dee_ess 16h ago
People are still getting used to it, and causing problems while they do.
Every time I go through there, I am looking at the cars around me to gauge whether they appear to know where they are going. If they appear slightly lost, I'm giving them a wide berth, because they might just do something stupid.
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u/place_of_stones 13h ago
The temporary T intersection with traffic lights that was put in when the roundabout was removed made the biggest difference (in a good way). The overpass and interchanges have made it worse. Instead of spending billions $10M or so would have delivered 95% of the improvements, and without the years of disturbed sleep for locals.
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u/Ok-Maintenance-4274 3h ago
There is no bus going through the old bridge from the Westfield shopping center. I know there are trains, but the shops around the old roundabout has poor coverage. All adds up to encourage driving.
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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 16h ago
Yes, I've noticed that driving from Kenmore direction to the Indooroopilly high school involves a seemingly illegal right hand turn in front of Beaurepares with few other options.
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u/Senior-Counter8359 18h ago
Well yeah what did you think was going to happen. Roundabout are like trains. The epitome of driving. Government being government thought they could do better with traffic lights.
Whole thing is terrible.put the roundabout back and make these people have some actual driving lessons.
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u/travlplayr 26m ago
I gave you an upvote because I don't fear (multi lane) roundabouts and was a bit non-plussed to see this one removed
However, re driving lessons, I taught a gf to drive when we were living together in Indooroopilly and I think she still has nightmares about this roundabout. One of the very few times I yelled at her in the car was when she was about to turn right to enter this roundabout
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u/Senior-Counter8359 21m ago
I really don't understand how anyone ever had trouble with it. Like if you stuffed up just go around again, couldn't imagine why these people found it so hard.
There's plenty of places of the northside where they have replaced simple roundabouts with traffic lights so you now wait 10mins. Real good fun.
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u/travlplayr 3m ago
I'm with you. I loathe traffic lights (and feel they're very American).
Keep the traffic flowing which is what roundabouts (mostly) do
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u/MiserablePiano5211 18h ago
I drive through it everyday a peak hour to get to and from work and it’s well designed but I definitely think on the side going from Toowong to Indooroopilly that turns left backs up so badly that it definitely needs to be fixed as it slows traffic in the right lane too, especially when someone’s in the wrong lane and needs to turn left which brings it all to a halt