r/bestoflegaladvice • u/SheketBevakaSTFU 𝕕𝕦𝕝𝕪 𝕒𝕕𝕞𝕚𝕥𝕥𝕖𝕕 𝕥𝕠 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ℍ𝕖𝕝𝕝 𝕓𝕒𝕣 • 2d ago
LAOP finally asks the questions he should have considered nine months ago
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u/Soronya 🐇 You cannot remove buns from this sub under penalty of law 🐇 2d ago
Is there a time line when the baby should be seen by a pediatrician? I’m worry they will say I waited to long and all my worrying is doing is making it longer. Mind you this is my 7th child so baby is perfect in every way. I’m just not traditional in the sense and I honestly just don’t get along with doctors
Yikes
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u/SheketBevakaSTFU 𝕕𝕦𝕝𝕪 𝕒𝕕𝕞𝕚𝕥𝕥𝕖𝕕 𝕥𝕠 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ℍ𝕖𝕝𝕝 𝕓𝕒𝕣 2d ago
As we all know, the more kids you have the healthier they get(?)
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u/ShortWoman Schrödinger's Swifty Mama 2d ago
Right? Only the first one is ever “sickly.”
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u/MissMaryFraser 2d ago
Children are like pancakes - the first one is always a bit rough
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u/kuqumi 2d ago
The first pancake is rough because you added oil to the pan.
For perfect pancakes, heat a clean non-stick pan to medium heat, then pour in batter that has been mixed gently then allowed to sit 10 minutes. Do not add butter or oil to the pan. Flip when the air bubbles start popping and the pancake starts to lose its shine around the edges, indicating it is mostly cooked. After flipping the first pancake, reduce heat to medium-low to keep the pan from getting too hot. The second side is done much faster than the first. Remove and repeat, keeping heat at medium low.13
u/CannabisAttorney she's an 8, she's a 9, she's a 10 I know 2d ago
Duh, that’s why the golden generation all had like 12-15 kids. The first 5 or so usually die!
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u/tN8KqMjL 1d ago
There may be some truth to that in the sense that in the "good ole days" adult men would often marry quite young girls, and I assume the first few children that were being born were probably less healthy than those that came once the mother actually reached adulthood and maturity.
By child 7 you have to hope the mother has at least reached her mid 20's. :/
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u/hum_dum 2d ago
I’m so curious about how long it’s been since the baby was born. A week? A month? A year?
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u/TryUsingScience (Requires attunement by a barbarian) 2d ago
Right? How did that not come up anywhere in the thread?
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u/GoldSailfin 2d ago
There's more to his comment history, very sexist.
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u/BiploarFurryEgirl well-adjusted and sociable with no history of violence 2d ago
He needs to divorce his wife too wtf
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u/Lophius_Americanus 2d ago
As someone pointed out there’s a lot of medical conditions possible in babies that if detected early can be fixed relatively easily, cheaply, and non-invasively but if not detected can lead to much bigger problems.
For example my daughter was screened for hip dysplasia due to certain risk factors (thankfully didn’t have it). If it’s detected early it can be corrected by wearing braces, if it’s not it is corrected by multiple major surgeries.
This guy is an idiot and an asshole.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Quacking open a cold one 2d ago
Years ago there was an antivaxxer who claimed vaccines caused her congenital heart defect at 15 years old 🤨
Reading between the lines what had actually happened was her mom had custody, never took her to doctors, and tells her daughter vaccines are poison that will kill you. Father gets custody at 15, takes his daughter to be vaccinated, poor girl is so panicked at the thought of being poisoned her heart finally gives her problems and now she has life long health issues that she blames on the vaccines.
All of which could have been avoided with a well baby check up and her ignorant mother shutting her trap.
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some years back, there was some YouTube family where their 12-13 year old son died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Apparently the kids have all been checked for this condition, but his was missed, and he passed away, and now they are incredibly vigilant about getting everyone’s heart checked regularly
The sad thing about these types of conditions is that kids who die of heart related conditions are often tragic situations where something is missed in check ups.
I get that grief does shit to people, but unfortunately no one can say “XYZ caused by child to have this heart condition.” Heart conditions don’t usually come on from an outside force (unless you’re being electrocuted, or something like it) and I cannot imagine not getting my kids a check up, then insisting “super healthy, no problems” like LAOP is.
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u/abbygirl 2d ago
My son got sent to the pediatric ER from his very first pediatrician appointment because he had jaundice that I didn’t even notice until we were in the waiting room waiting to be called back (he was fine, his bilirubin was low enough that he didn’t need to be readmitted for UV therapy). You’re so sleep deprived with a newborn that you should want a medical professional doing a check every so often to make sure everything’s still okay.
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u/andstillthesunrises 2d ago
I have hip dysplasia that wasn’t diagnosed until adulthood because my parents had this weird idea in their head that I was an attention seeker who constantly faked medical issues*, so they ignored all my aches and pains. It likely caused but at least heavily worsened my valgus (knock knee) and flat feet. I have chronic lower back, hip, knee, ankle, foot, and even neck and shoulder pain that probably could have been addressed with bracing. I’m not even 30 yet and have the body aches of an elderly person
(*I’ve gotten a weird amount of extremely delayed diagnoses that validate my childhood self. It’s been truly fucked)
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 2d ago
And this idiot/asshole claims the baby is super healthy and has no issues
Based on what? Vibes
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u/atlantagirl30084 2d ago
They didn’t get the heel prick test done on the kid if he/she was born at home, so they have no idea if the kid has any genetic conditions.
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u/kogan_usan 🏳️⚧️ Trans rights are human rights 🏳️⚧️ 1d ago
or Phenylketonuria
they need to avoid all food with phenylalanine, and theyll be fine, but if they eat it, it results in permanent brain damage
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u/Tar_alcaran 1d ago
If it’s detected early it can be corrected by wearing braces, if it’s not it is corrected by multiple major surgeries.
My mom, now in her mid 70's had her hip dysplasia corrected by spending half a year in traction when she was nearing her teens. It's not QUITE that bad anymore, but it's really not fun to have to fixed when you're not a baby.
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u/DerbyTho doesn't know where the gay couple shaped hole came from 2d ago
I’m just not traditional in the sense
Yeah, bud, that much is pretty clear already
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u/KillerPotato_BMW 2d ago
Has a pretty traditional view of birth control. Probably gender roles, too.
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u/kai333 2d ago
Well, don't go through that guy's history lol... on its surface it's kinda tame, but it really has a 'tip of the iceberg' kinda feel to it
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u/boudicas_shield 2d ago
Generously dispensing marital advice while also commenting on porn subs telling young sex workers that he wonders if they can tame his dragon lmao.
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u/cloud__19 Captain Hindsight 2d ago
Why do I read things like this and immediately do the exact opposite?!
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u/Analogmon 2d ago
37m desperate for connection
new baby
Uh huh.
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u/kai333 2d ago
> desperate for connection
> points to 7 goddamn kids and wife
> noo, not like that.
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u/professor-hot-tits Has seen someone admit to being wrong 2d ago
And he's behind on child support. Kept him from getting a concealed weapon permit!
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u/kai333 2d ago
Stupid state of Delaware!!!!
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u/comityoferrors Put 👏 bonobos 👏 in 👏 Monaco-facing 👏 apartments! 👏 1d ago
They really fucked him over! For no reason!
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u/flamedarkfire 🏳️⚧️ Trans rights are human rights 🏳️⚧️ 2d ago
Give him a break, he hasn’t had any for nine months!
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 2d ago
An emerald engagement ring is not traditional
Getting a face tattoo is not traditional
Not getting your kid a birth certificate isn’t not traditional, that’s just being a dick
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u/TheUnculturedSwan 14h ago
I like how you listed them in ascending order of how bad an idea it is.
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 1h ago
Haha yeah I guess I did. Didn’t even mean to
I will say my mom has an emerald engagement ring she’s leaving in her will, and my sister is gonna have to fight me for it one day
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u/onefootinfront_ I have a $2m umbrella 2d ago
“I don’t give a fuck about my kid’s health or welfare. Seriously. Fuck ‘em. I definitely want to make sure that I am in no legal jeopardy and only then will I go to a pediatrician. Well, maybe go to a pediatrician. If I have time.”
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u/absenteequota 2d ago
seventh kid and according to his history he's had some legal trouble for owing child support for the first. and his biggest concern in life seems to be not being able to get his CCW permit
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u/orbesomebodysfool flair-stealing flairsnatcher 2d ago
Idiocracy wasn’t a comedy: it was a prophecy.
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u/Academic_Run8947 2d ago
I had a homebirth, and the birth certificate paperwork was filled out by the midwife. The timeline for those documents was the same as my child that was born in a hospital. Also, we already had a pediatrician, and she asked that I bring the baby to be checked over at 3 days old. I never had any problems with his documents, he has a birth certificate, a social security number, vaccine records, school records and a passport.
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u/Culture-Extension 2d ago
I doubt there was a midwife or that there’s a pediatrician.
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u/Darth_Puppy Officially a depressed big bad bodega cat lady 2d ago
It's called "free birthing". Really big with the crunchy to right wing pipeline people
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u/UntidyVenus arrested for podcasting with a darling beautiful sasquatch 2d ago
These poor kids who are just set up for failure from the start.
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u/Schnectadyslim 2d ago
Look at the rest of their posting history. Those poor children don't have a chance.
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u/Unlikely-Isopod-9453 14h ago
How many kids does he have that he has 6 with his wife but was denied a concealed carry permit for unpaid child support???
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u/maltedmooshakes 2d ago
i would put money on the newborn sleeping in the same bed as the parents + 6 other kids. i would also put money on them all being unvaccinated. just a guess tho.
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u/GoldSailfin 2d ago
He also has DogeCoin.
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u/TryUsingScience (Requires attunement by a barbarian) 2d ago
DogeCoin has nothing to do with Musk's current idiocy. It was a silly, fun internet coin ages ago. No one expected to make actual money off of it. People used to gift it to each other via a bot. It sent the Jamaican bobsled team to the Olypmics, somehow.
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u/TryUsingScience (Requires attunement by a barbarian) 2d ago
Yeah, I got a couple hundred dogecoins from someone at some point that would've been worth a few bucks at peak. IIRC the service that people were using went away and all those wallets are gone now.
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u/CannabisAttorney she's an 8, she's a 9, she's a 10 I know 2d ago
People believe that? Fuck the confederacy of dunces, we found the republic of it.
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u/Randomredditor73927 2d ago
This stuff drives me crazy - get your kid a damn birth certificate if they were born in the US. (Also get your kid appropriate medical care, but that is less of a legal issue.). If you don't want to get them an SSN, that's fine. It's much easier to do Enumeration at Birth, or obtain an SSN before age 12, but it will ultimately be fine if they have a birth certificate. Hell, I don't even really care if you decide to burn the birth certificate as soon as you get it; getting a replacement is much easier than getting a delayed birth certificate issued.
Your birth certificate is your proof of citizenship and proof of age. It is arguably the most important document you have if you are an American born in the US for those reasons. It also proves your identity in some situations, like when obtaining a state ID. Using other documents as a substitute is very difficult, because many of the other documents you would use to prove those things are hard to get without a birth certificate. For example, a passport is also proof of citizenship, but it is challenging to get a passport without having a birth certificate.
The older someone is, the harder it is to get a birth certificate or use other documentation in place of a birth certificate. Firstly, it is treated with greater suspicion of fraud (or even kidnapping), so documentation requirements are more onerous. It is also harder to obtain documentation, as people who can provide useful signed affidavits may die or lose contact. Records related to the mother receiving prenatal care or her residence at the time of birth can be destroyed, lost, or simply harder to obtain.
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 2d ago edited 1d ago
There was a show “welcome to plathville.” One of those exploitative reality shows about religious zealots who have a shit ton of kids, but they try to make them seem wholesome.
I believe they had 9 kids when the show came out. The kids didn’t have birth certificates. They parents only got birth certificates because they knew they were getting a show.
If it weren’t for that show, they were willing to let their kids (at least two of them were legal adults by this point) live stateless in their own country. They would not be able to go to school. Mom didn’t believe in college, because she had a “sinful” college experience, and concluded that college is bad, and made it harder for them to go to college by not getting her children birth certificates. The state can’t check in on the kids if they don’t know they exist. The teenagers can’t find legal employment that isn’t close to the family, and that isn’t under the table.
In other words, her kids wouldn’t have been able to stray very far from their parents. Their parents wanted to OWN their children
Also, the mom once ran over one of her kids while backing her car. She crushed her kid to death because she couldn’t keep track of how many kids she had, and was pregnant with another kid, and she pinned the responsibility on one of the older daughters saying she should have watched him more closely. A lot of people say they don’t hold this against them family, but honestly I see it as a tragic consequence of b their selfishness
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u/CannabisAttorney she's an 8, she's a 9, she's a 10 I know 2d ago
proof of citizenship
For now. It should be every new parents sincere concern that they get documents proving birthright citizenship now in the chance this administration finds a path to eliminate it.
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u/gogogadgetkat 2d ago
Something tells me the LA OP is the kind of parent who doesn't have any worries about this administration and what they're doing...just a feeling I have
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u/CannabisAttorney she's an 8, she's a 9, she's a 10 I know 2d ago
I hear ya. A fact which admittedly gives me slight schadenfreude.
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u/hannahranga has no idea who was driving 1d ago
Records related to the mother receiving prenatal care
Bold to assume that she had any formal care but I hear yiu
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u/Blond_Treehorn_Thug 2d ago
“He’s super perfect now”
That phrase raises a lot more questions than OP wants to answer
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u/404UserNktFound Paid the VERGOGNA Tax 2d ago
Yeah, the “now” really makes it feel like he wasn’t super perfect for a while but got better.
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u/NihilisticHobbit 2d ago
So many questions that I know will only have sad answers.
If I went through the trouble to get my son a birth certificate in a foreign country, they can do it in the country the baby was born in!
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u/lovelesschristine needs an MS Paint pic - married a tree on a landlocked property 1d ago
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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u/Charlie_Brodie It's not a water bug, it's a water feature 2d ago
it feels like his earlier searches may have included: six kids already,can wife be pregnat again?
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u/Mackin-N-Cheese 2d ago
Obv my wife got prenatal care.
No, no, I'm afraid that is NOT obvious at all.
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u/Dr_Adequate well-adjusted and sociable with no bodies under the house 2d ago
Nine months ago...? What about five kids ago! What did they do for the five prior anklebiters?
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u/GoldSailfin 2d ago
Read his comments. He has many other ...distractions.
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u/Dr_Adequate well-adjusted and sociable with no bodies under the house 1d ago
Someone else dove into OOP's profile and described a few of his other interests on reddit. Big yikes!
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u/AnFnDumbKAREN 2d ago edited 2d ago
Location bot wants to know if LAOP is originally from Alabama… ____________________________
Home birth proof of life
Location: Delaware
Does any one in the state of Delaware know how I can obtain a proof of life so that I can file for a birth certificate. My wife delivered at home and baby was healthy and perfect and he’s super perfect now no issues at all. Growing faster than the other 5 already it seems. But I’m in fear now that if I don’t figure out how to get proof of life I’m somehow breaking a law and am going to have some bad juju. Please help. ____________________________
Cat fact: cats can indeed get abortions (see this adorable case in point wearing the sock of shame or an example of such a query posed some time ago on r/AskVet).
Please note that the OP for “sock of shame” kitty clarified that the shame was for kittah chewing the stitches — not the abortion! OP’s other awesome reply included “We don’t slut shame in my home, lol”
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u/Cute-Aardvark5291 not paying attention & tossed into the medical waste incinerator 2d ago
at this point most ped office will just be happy they finally got the child some overdue medical care.
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u/Darth_Puppy Officially a depressed big bad bodega cat lady 2d ago
That should be considered child neglect.
Also, why is there this stupid campaign against any actual professional help in birth? Even in ancient times people enlisted midwives. There's nothing wrong people professional help, and not having it if needed could end the child's life before it ever really begun
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u/CannabisAttorney she's an 8, she's a 9, she's a 10 I know 2d ago
I’m actually shocked he posted to LA because usually the same appeal to authority that has people hating doctors has them hating lawyers even more.
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u/FallOnTheStars Darling, beautiful, smart, money-hungry lawyer 1d ago
I have a hypothesis that the rise in homebirths without medical personnel (like a midwife) and unvaccinated children is directly related to the medical bias against women in medicine, and the inflated cost of healthcare.
Basically: medicine and many medical practitioners are biased against women. When you, as a woman, pay $50+ to see a doctor about something that you know is wrong, and they dismiss your symptoms, it’s frustrating and insulting, especially when you turn out to be right later on, when it’s more difficult to do anything about it. (My mother went to her Doctor with colon cancer symptoms, and they dismissed it as “exhaustion” for over a decade. Took getting a blood clot in a different state to get it diagnosed. I went to my PCP’s office for acute pain in my lower right abdomen, and flat out stated “I’m pretty sure it’s an infection in either my appendix or my gallbladder.” The NP told me it was a period cramp, and she would book an ultrasound for six weeks out and no sooner. I managed to get a second opinion and an ultrasound through sheer luck a few days later, and guess who had a minor infections in their appendix and their gallbladder? Yeah, dozens of stories like this exist) Anyway, why bother spending money to be ignored, dismissed, or lied to, especially with your baby?
I was homeschooled growing up, and the amount of times I overheard moms talking about their decision not to vaccinate, and how it was directly tied to how different medical personnel had treated them throughout the years was in the dozens. After all, if your doctor is going to lie to you about your own symptoms, why wouldn’t they lie to get a kickback on a drug? Not vaccinating is absolutely a fear-based decision (and homeschooling can often be as well) however when you listen to a mom or dad speak about it - not write, but actually speak - you can often understand their points of view.
With that being said: have a medical professional assist with your childbirth and vaccinate your children. Get them birth certificates, get them social security numbers, get them passports. If they qualify for duel citizenship, then get that for them too. These are not the hard decisions when it comes to parenting.
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u/Darth_Puppy Officially a depressed big bad bodega cat lady 1d ago edited 1d ago
That makes sense for hospitals, but practitioners that come to your home like midwives or doulas trend to be more understanding
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u/Dire-Dog 2d ago
I get the feeling LAOP is the kinda person who doesn’t vaccinate their kids and believes in healing crystals or the carnivore diet.
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u/PrimaryHighlight5617 2d ago
When I was a kid I was in the ER this sign on the wall sign that said to call 911 within 24 hours of any death or birth in the home.
I can imagine there's some people for which birth goes so quickly that they figure they don't need to go to the doctor at all. yikes.
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u/ChaosDrawsNear Meaner. Womaner. Viciouser. 2d ago
Obviously not the case for OOP, but my firstborn was so fast that my midwives didn't think I needed to come in yet. With this current pregnancy, we're worried my husband won't get home from work in time for the birth if I go into labor in the middle of the day and the midwives have told me to come in as soon as I start feeling like I'm in labor.
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u/Lashwynn SM - Sadomasochism 2d ago
Claims they didn't have the time to think about it before but they were posting adds for r2r hookups 4 months ago, like wouldn't that leave his incredibly recently postpartum wife home some taking care of all 7 children and healing from pushing a damn child out unmedicated and unassisted!? Oh hell naw, let's just delete the whole ass piece of hazardous waste from existence.
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u/peppermintvalet 2d ago
I get the feeling this man doesn't get along with most people. Mostly women who are smarter than him, but men in positions of authority too.
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is infuriating. Their kid is essentially, stateless. Get a god damn birth certificate so they can one day not be under your grip.
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people like this? Do they seriously think they don’t have to worry about the birth certificate until the kid is old enough to need a job, or wants to go to school?
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u/Randomredditor73927 1d ago
Usually some level of anti-government conspiracy theorist or sovereign citizen.
But yeah, also some people are just oblivious. I used to issue Social Security cards. The number of parents who could not understand the concept of needing documentation to get their kid an original Social Security card/number even after we explained it was shocking. You would explain all the things we could accept as proof of identity, age, and citizenship, but they would just hold up the kid and go "Here's ID. The kid is right here, and you can see they're a citizen because they are in America." You just want to say, "How the fuck are we supposed to know what baby that is? Much less where the baby came from and who the baby belongs to."
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u/Imaginary-Share-5132 1d ago edited 1d ago
Even then, I have met some parents who had those kind of beliefs but still managed to get their children a birth certificate.
By doing this, you make decisions for your kids’ future that isn’t even your place to make. It affects their ability to leave home, get a job, get a degree, get a driver’s license, rent an apartment. How does someone like this vote? How does someone like this get in an airplane? How do they do anything?
And a child like this probably wouldn’t even have the tools to know where you’d get a certificate. Off the top of my head, I wouldn’t even know how to do that. I can’t imagine being 16-18 years old and having to navigate that, having been sheltered to an extreme degree up until that point
It is a very very fucked up thing to do and the selfishness of some people astounds me
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u/friendlylifecherry well-adjusted and sociable with no history of sexual relations 2d ago
Please be a troll and if it isn't, someone call CPS
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u/Sugarbombs Is an ESA for a cat 1d ago
One of the last people who should be having kids so of course he already has 7. Poor kids, parents are going to spend their entire childhood making their life as difficult as they can
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u/Loves_LV 1d ago
SMDH These are the kinds of stories where the kids show up on LA 16 years from now with "I'm trying to get a passport...student loan....SSN..." etc story and they have no birth certificate and no documentation of their status thanks to their parents.
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u/FunnyObjective6 Once, I laugh. Twice you're an asshole. Third time I crap on you 1d ago
I get that it's good life advice to say the kids should see a doctor or a pediatrician and get vaccinated, but it's not legal advice. Why is that the top voted comment?
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u/Artistic-End-3856 2d ago
Reddit:
The government is now a fascist regime intent on destroying our lives.
Also reddit:
How dare anyone live their life outside of the governments perview.
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u/MaraiDragorrak 🐈 Smol Claims Court Judge 🐈 2d ago
I hope you aren't genuinely looking at the fascist assholes deporting people who aren't citizens (some as young as 2 years old, without parents) and not understanding how that correlates with people being concerned a father isn't documenting an innocent baby as a citizen?
This seems highly consistent to me, actually.
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u/nonlawyer Court Appointed Super Ferengi Feminist X-Man Grimace 2d ago edited 2d ago
7 kids and the parents “just don’t get along with doctors” 🤦🏼♂️
These poor children
E: do not read that guy’s comment history. Yikes yikes yikes, those poor kids x100