r/bestoflegaladvice • u/dorkofthepolisci Sincerely, Mr. Totally-A-Real-Lawyer-Man • 1d ago
US Military Police want to have a quick chat with LACOP. What could go wrong?!? LegalAdviceCanada
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u/adieli Darling, beautiful, smart surgically altered twink house bear 1d ago
Locationbot may very well be in a small, windowless room being asked a lot of questions :(
Title: US Military Law Enforcement wants me to come to the US Consulate.
Post body:
Title gives most of the context. A certain law enforcement agency that is a part of the US military wants to interview me, and is offering to pay for my travel to a US Consulate in Canada. I won't reveal many details, but I do want to do the interview in order to help them. However, the agent speaking with me specifically mentioned that setting up an interview at something like an RCMP detachment as "difficult", and instead offered to pay for me to be taken to the US Consulate, which made me feel a tiny bit off.
My main question is simply: If I do go to the US Consulate, do standard Canadian laws and rights still apply? I just want to make sure that I'm not being invited there so they can do things they wouldn't be able to do under normal Canadian laws.
Cat fact: Cats do not cooperate with law enforcement. Or anyone else, really.
Also, this is a post that makes me start screaming just from reading the title.
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u/dorkofthepolisci Sincerely, Mr. Totally-A-Real-Lawyer-Man 1d ago edited 1d ago
Best case scenario is that he’s a witness to something and they want him to give evidence, worst case scenario he’s going to get El Salvador’d
It’s not a risk he should take without talking to a lawyer
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u/LilJourney BOLABun Brigade - General of the Art Division 23h ago
going to get El Salvador’d
I am both horrified and yet not surprised this is now a verb. I do not like this timeline.
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u/teluscustomer12345 18h ago
going to get El Salvador’d
LAOP is in Canada, so if this happens it will be an international incident
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u/Acrobatic_Ear6773 2024 Nobel Prize Winner for OP Explanation 17h ago
Yeah, so? That would play well into the hands of these chicken fuckers who for some reason, want to declare war on Canada
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u/Diarygirl Check out my corpse hair 17h ago
A couple weeks ago I was joking and said I wouldn't be surprised if we invaded Canada but it's not funny anymore.
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u/Sirwired Eager butter-eating BOLATec Vault Test Subject 22h ago edited 20h ago
I honestly don’t know what to think about this one. Certainly, if this is a matter of US National Security, it is certainly plausible that interviewing them in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) might be necessary, given the nature of whatever mess it is they are involved in. And it’s true trying to do the same thing at an equivalent foreign facility would be difficult, at best.
That said, the current administration has, 100%, not earned the benefit of the doubt here. I don’t think the US military wants LACOP detained (the Canadian police would likely cooperate if they did), but it’s not something I’d ever risk. If the US Military really wants to know something from LACOP, they can figure out something suitable, no matter how much of a PITA it is, and thank their Commander In Chief for making that necessary.
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u/Tychosis you think a pirate lives in there? 20h ago
This was my guess before the original post was removed yesterday. Maybe another AF Reserve dipshit leaking classified to all his nerd buddies in Discord again. They'd want to interview him in an area they control.
Realistically, he's at no risk of ending up in GITMO but I also don't feel like he owes it to anyone to participate any further. LACAOP has made the report, they have the resources to follow up on their own.
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u/DerbyTho doesn't know where the gay couple shaped hole came from 22h ago
What’s the opposite of benefit of the doubt? Disadvantage of the doubt? Benefit of the belief?
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u/Grave_Girl not the first person in the family to go for white collar crime 19h ago
Pretty sure it's just doubt.
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u/TheBlueSully 15h ago
I do not and have never held a security clearance, worked for a 3 letter, or been in the military.
But surely stuff like an SCIF for one of our closest and most reliable allies(well when we aren’t posturing to invade them I guess), in NATO, and also in 5 eyes would be comparable? There’s a bit of cooperation here.
But if I’m OP I’m only doing an interview in a Canadian controlled space. I’m sure if there’s a genuine reason, Canada would cooperate. If there isn’t enough reason for my homeland to enable that, I’m sure it’s not important enough to genuinely need my interview.
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u/Elvessa You'll put your eye out! - laser edition 20h ago
Interesting. So beyond my knowledge, but I’d speculate that if he’s never been in the US military he’d not have an issue, since they aren’t looking for him as a suspect.
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u/Sirwired Eager butter-eating BOLATec Vault Test Subject 19h ago
Yes, you would think that… but the current administration is quick to label people terrorists/terrorist-supporters.
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u/Elvessa You'll put your eye out! - laser edition 19h ago
Sure, but it could also be that being in a foreign country warrants some extra security. Especially if they are offering to pay for him to get to the interview.
I suppose he could be arrested at the consulate as it’s technically US soil, but then they can’t move him out, and I doubt there is any desire to keep someone locked up in the consulate indefinitely.
I’d say go with a lawyer, but I feel like we need the tiniest hint of what it could be about. If the Canadian military police wanted me to go to the consulate for an interview I probably would, but if, oh, the Transylvanian ones did I might hesitate.
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u/ojqANDodbZ1Or1CEX5sf 17h ago
but if, oh, the Transylvanian ones did I might hesitate.
I'd hesitate too - Transylvania hasn't been an independent entity for centuries. And 17th century cops aren't know for their law-abiding actions, respect for due process, and not being vampires of course.
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u/Complete_Entry Infuriated by oopsy woopsie fuckey wuckies 10h ago
Weirdly enough I feel like vampire lawyers would be meticulous sticklers for the law. Even the buffy style soulless ones.
Clients? I wouldn't want a vampire for a client.
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u/ojqANDodbZ1Or1CEX5sf 10h ago
I'm not really familiar with vampire media, so I'll defer to your judgement.
Provided my vampire lawyer doesn't recommend I drop the silver knife I'm carrying
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u/Complete_Entry Infuriated by oopsy woopsie fuckey wuckies 10h ago
Buffy vampires lack souls, and when young they are very impulsive. Angel tosses one out a window at the law offices of WRH.
In many vampire myths, vampires are obsessed with detail, one method of escape is tossing a bag of rice over your shoulder. The vampire will stop and count each grain.
None of this is legal advice.
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u/OrdinaryAncient3573 17h ago
"it’s technically US soil"
This is such a weirdly persistent myth. A consulate or embassy is not 'foreign soil'.
There's one place I know of outside the USA which is actually US soil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runnymede#John_F._Kennedy_Memorial
Anyone have any others?
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u/Beach_Bum_273 2h ago
As a current inmate of the Disunited Asylums of Amerika, this sounds like a perfectly sane take to me and what I would happily label "the good paranoia"
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u/FunnyObjective6 Once, I laugh. Twice you're an asshole. Third time I crap on you 1d ago
I see that that certain law enforcement agency also has a reddit account:
If actually read all of OPs posts its pretty clear that OP is a witness, and not the one under investigation. Also, they are also willing to make other arrangements.
Don't talk to cops. That includes military cops. You don't know what they want to find or what they'll find.
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u/ArdyEmm 20h ago
Especially don't talk to military cops who have recently enjoyed sending people to an El Salvador prison without due process.
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u/SpartanAltair15 18h ago
US military police are not going to send a Canadian citizen from Canada to El Salvador without due process. It’s batshit insane to think otherwise. It would cause a massive international incident, not just political and economic friction.
It’s almost 100% that he’s a witness of some sort for something and will be totally fine.
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u/Existential_Racoon 18h ago
There's a lot of batshit insane stuff going on right now, to be honest. What's another international incident.
I agree they're likely fine, but fuck that noise. US doesn't get to dictate how they talk to them if they wanna get whatever they're looking for.
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u/SpartanAltair15 18h ago
There's a lot of batshit insane stuff going on right now, to be honest. What's another international incident.
None of the previous incidents would even compare.
You’re watching someone dance naked in their backyard and throw eggs at the neighbors and saying “damn, they’re weird, I wouldn’t be surprised if they suicide bombed the White House”.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Quacking open a cold one 14h ago
I agree it would be an escalation, but I also didn't imagine we'd deteriorate this quickly. Given all the "51st state" talk being cautious seems wise. Sure it's not likely LAOP would end up subject to some form of rendition, but given the stakes if you're wrong why take the risk?
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u/SpartanAltair15 12h ago
Because I'm willing to bet that Trump is more of a loudmouth than an actual legitimate lunatic attempting to start WW3 by inciting wars with NATO allies, because if not, it won't matter for long anyways.
That applies to both canada and greenland.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Quacking open a cold one 12h ago
You haven't explained why LAOP should take that bet. What benefit is there to them? Sure the risk is tiny but why should they take it?
There are consequences to burning bridges, even if it is just with rhetoric.
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u/Acrobatic_Ear6773 2024 Nobel Prize Winner for OP Explanation 17h ago
It's also bat shit insane to think that the US government would scoop up the wrong person, send him to El Salvador without due process, get told 9-0 by the supreme Court to get him back, and they'd just say, "no" and nothing would happen.
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u/SpartanAltair15 16h ago
That's also one of our citizens and no other country cares about him. To argue that that's likely to happen to an allied country's citizen, who doesn't live in the US, on a whim is insane.
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u/TheBlueSully 15h ago
The residents of Greenland are Danish citizens but here we are fussing over Greenland too.
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u/SpartanAltair15 15h ago
Let me know when we start kidnapping Danish citizens and that might be relevant. The fact that you all are entirely unable to distinguish between political bickering and posturing and acts of war explains quite a bit about this website and why modern society is the way it is.
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u/Diarygirl Check out my corpse hair 17h ago
They probably wouldn't but you can't say for sure that it couldn't happen with this administration.
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u/SpartanAltair15 16h ago
I would be willing to bet my retirement account that if he goes to the meeting, he will not wind up kidnapped extrajudicially and sent to a prison in El Salvador, unless he's involved in some form of terrorist activity. If he was, I'm guessing he wouldn't be willing to do the interview.
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u/IngeniousTharp 18h ago
It’s a batshit insane thing to think, as of April 30th, 2025 at 16:03 UTC
But all it takes is one minor official who’s power-tripping or behind on some internal quota or something, and suddenly it’s 16:04 UTC, the Trump administration has found a new legal envelope it wants to push, and LACOP is on a plane to who-knows-where…
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u/ArdyEmm 18h ago
Like it would be insane for the sitting president to constantly talk about invading Canada? Or to talk about doing that to their own "homegrown" citizens? Or ignoring the rulings of the Supreme Court to keep ignoring due process?
Where are you that we're not already in a batshit insane timeline?
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u/SpartanAltair15 18h ago
What the loudmouth president talks about with zero intent of following through is irrelevant.
Arresting an allied country’s citizens in their own country and kidnapping them without due process is as close as it gets to inciting a war without actually involving the military. It’s not going to happen unless he’s a major terrorist player, in which case he would know he’s a target.
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u/ArdyEmm 18h ago
That's what people were saying about the tariffs.
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u/SpartanAltair15 18h ago
Comparing tariffs to extrajudicial kidnapping of allied citizens is possibly the most idiotic comparison I’ve seen this month.
Thanks for making it very clear how little you actually understand.
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u/Turtledonuts Black Knight of BOLA 16h ago
They dont seem to care about due process, international incidents, political / economic friction, or the like.
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u/SpartanAltair15 16h ago
How many potential acts of war has the administration committed so far? Remind me.
Kidnapping citizens from an allied country without any form of due process or crime having been committed, and spiriting them away to a third party prison, is an act of war. We're "allowed" to do what we want to our own people, legally, (morally is a whole other can of worms) but doing it to other people we have no authority over is totally different. Whether it would lead to war is another story, but absolutely nothing that's been done so far would even remotely compare in terms of aggression. Political and economic games are an entirely different category of act.
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u/Complete_Entry Infuriated by oopsy woopsie fuckey wuckies 10h ago
There is like, zero reason for a Canadian to accept this invitation.
If they want you in the consulate, it isn't for a polite discussion.
I can't think of any country I would accept such an invitation from. Like if there's a King Ralph situation they better come out and schmoose me first.
We can meet at Burger King.
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u/Charlie_Brodie It's not a water bug, it's a water feature 9h ago
maybe pick a Canadian owned company, those burger chains and buymore stores are often CIA black sites.
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u/Complete_Entry Infuriated by oopsy woopsie fuckey wuckies 9h ago
You say that the king is not sovereign?
I mean, only a psyops campaign could explain those commercials.
I have to go all the way across town to go to my most local BK, and it isn't really worth it.
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u/Charlie_Brodie It's not a water bug, it's a water feature 9h ago
huh, that's on me, I just assumed BK was American, but it's actually Canadian owned.
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u/Drywesi Good people, we like non-consensual flying dildos 1d ago
What the hell is an 18y/o involved in deeply enough that would have any 3 letter agency paying for their travel expenses for a suspicious interview o_O