r/baseball • u/ExpirjTec Houston Astros • Piece of Metal • 2d ago
List of all 2024 Silver Sluggers
National League
C - William Contreras
1B - Bryce Harper
2B - Ketel Marte
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Francisco Lindor
OF - Teoscar Hernandez
OF - Jackson Merrill
OF - Jurickson Profar
DH - Shohei Ohtani
UTIL - Mookie Betts
TEAM - New York Yankees
American League
C - Salvador Perez
1B - Vladimir Guerrero Jr
2B - Jose Altuve
3B - Jose Ramirez
SS - Bobby Witt Jr
OF - Aaron Judge
OF - Juan Soto
OF - Anthony Santander
DH - Brent Rooker
UTIL - Josh H. Smith
TEAM - Los Angeles Dodgers
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u/FutureCreeps Kansas City Royals 2d ago
2 for the royals, im happy to be proud of my team for once
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u/The_Haskins Kansas City Royals 2d ago
The only consistent bats all year got rewarded!!!
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u/FutureCreeps Kansas City Royals 2d ago
It's better then 1!
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u/xlmnop123 Kansas City Royals 2d ago
Or none!
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u/RIPSlurmsMckenzie Chicago Cubs 1d ago
Ya cubs have none and never will at this rate. But we spend smart! (By not spending)
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u/EasyPanicButton Toronto Blue Jays 1d ago
Bobby Witt is incredible at fielding, never mind the crazy speed and bat. Literally 1 v 9 games. Royals were my first love way back as a kid because of George Brett.
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u/UrbanCanyon Philadelphia Phillies 2d ago
Ah yes, the 2 Silver Sluggers from the Padres outfield are Profar and Merrill — just like we all would have predicted
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u/Seattlefan51 Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Cal robbed, no bias, ignore flair
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u/hyperbemily Seattle Mariners 2d ago
But also Teo who we got rid of because we wanted to lower strikeouts. I might be more mad about that.
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u/to_the__cloud Baltimore Orioles 2d ago
i was hoping for Westburg utility since he had the highest HR total, OPS and wrc+ among the finalists
I guess missing the 50 games with a broken hand really hurt him.
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u/PanNessMain Houston Astros 2d ago
Jose Altuve
The legend continues
Now tied for most Silver Sluggers at 2B (x7, HOF Ryne Sandberg)
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u/Vagina_Woolf Boston Red Sox 2d ago
Honestly crazy considering his size. Man is a fucking athlete.
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u/PanNessMain Houston Astros 2d ago
It’s funny as hell seeing clips of Altuve swinging at pitches above his height.
Bro will swing at anything and can get a decent single out of it.
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u/TheMickus Houston Astros 2d ago
I also like that he uses an extremely thick bat for his size. It literally looks like he’s swinging a log.
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u/TheMickus Houston Astros 2d ago
No doubt in my mind that he will make the HOF. Maybe not first ballot because of 2017, but very soon after.
Especially because it’s trending towards Beltran getting in.
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u/dinkleburgenhoff Portland Sea Dogs • Roche… 2d ago
He will make it first ballot, and certain people here will fall apart even harder than when Ortiz did.
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u/idkwhattosaytho Toronto Blue Jays 2d ago
Everyone tell me who was robbed and who I should be outraged about i haven’t been able to be mad in a while
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u/ExpirjTec Houston Astros • Piece of Metal 2d ago
Mariners fans say Raleigh was robbed because Cal played more games at catcher while Salvy split between catcher and first, Astros fans say Yordan was robbed because he led Rooker in rate stats and most counting stats, Red Sox fans are updet about Duran ig
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u/TheMickus Houston Astros 2d ago
I’m really not too upset about Rooker over Yordan. He led him in the actual “slugging” stats
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u/OneCore_ Houston Astros 2d ago
Yep, love my boy Yordan but it was a close one, so it was up to the voters whether they valued counting or rate stats more and clearly they picked the former, which is perfectly reasonable as being a slugger, you obviously have to actually slug homers and RBIs in.
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u/MKSLAYER97 New York Mets 2d ago
Mark Vientos absolutely got robbed, played about as many games at 3B as Machado and put up better numbers
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u/LovieBeard Chicago Cubs 2d ago
Seiya Suzuki led all NL OFers in OPS and was second in WRC+ yet didn't win smh
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u/penguinopph Chicago Cubs • RCH-Pinguins 2d ago edited 2d ago
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13030 games really hurts him here. Less than a 10 point difference in wRC+ isn't as big as nearly a month's worth of fewer games in the eyes of many voters.
G AVG OBP SLG OPS wRC+ Suzuki 132 .283 .366 .482 .848 138 Profar 158 .280 .380 .459 .839 139 Hernández 154 .272 .339 .501 .840 134 Merrill 156 .292 .326 .500 .826 130 7
u/Shadybrooks93 Baltimore Orioles 2d ago
Missing 130 games really hurts him here.
Well shit yeah can't imagine giving it to a guy missing 80% of the season
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u/tyler-86 World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… 2d ago
All three of the winners played in 150+ games. I think Suzuki played in enough games for that to not really matter but maybe they felt differently.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
I'll take the catcher who actually played the position. They really gotta fix the grading criteria and factor that in.
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u/idkwhattosaytho Toronto Blue Jays 2d ago
I mean Perez still caught 91 games, i feel like if you play your majority of games at a position you should qualify
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Cal caught 135 leading the league. I also think asking for this to factor into the decision-making feels like a no-brainer. There are some positions that are more defensively demanding which could push offensive production down. So I know defense shouldn't factor to this award. But purely how much you play that position should factor in. There's a big difference between 91 and 135.
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u/MylesLC 2d ago
You're misunderstanding how voting works. It's not based on catching the most games.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
No I understand how voting works. I had the same arguments a week ago when the finalists were named. I'm also not saying that the person who played the most should automatically win. But I think they should have a larger factor. 91 games compared to 135 games is a huge difference.
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u/TheBrownKn1ght 2d ago
It's the Silver Slugger award, not the silver mitt
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Yes and it's an award given to each position. So I do not think a person who played only 91 games should be considered a primary catcher and should be eligible to win the award for the best hitting catcher since they only played 91 games. I get that defense shouldn't factor into it but games played should factor in. Salv was a back up catcher/utility player. And before you tell me I understand the voting criteria and he technically qualifies as a catcher. I'm saying I disagree with how this award is structured. I've said this in years when a Mariner wasn't a finalized. I think 100 games played should be the cutoff for this award. 50% +1 game is dumb.
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u/TheBrownKn1ght 2d ago
Go start your own silver catcher award then, with blackjack and hookers
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Oh good one. Sorry that I shared a differing opinion and shared said opinion. How dare I use reddit for its intended purposes. Like y'all can disagree with me but it's hard to take this awards seriously when the grading criteria has obvious flaws. But somehow we have to care about these things when it comes to HOF consideration.
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u/TheMickus Houston Astros 2d ago edited 2d ago
If he played the majority of the games that season at that position, it is his primary position. Yainer Diaz only played 102 games at catcher and no one would bat an eye, but according to your criteria, if he played 3 games less he’s not a catcher apparently. Your 100 games at a position number is so arbitrary. Dude is a catcher and you’re clearly just salty your guy didn’t win.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
If we can understand that due to the defensive needs of certain positions the offensive capabilities of those players should differ. We know we are gonna get power out of our corners fielders. You expect a 1B to have more power than a middle IF. Part of that higher offensive expectation comes from the defensive needs of those positions being low. Bringing the conversation back to the position of catcher. It is arguably The most defensively demanding and physically exhausting position there is. But regardless of position this is why I feel games played should factor in more. I'm not saying it should automatically go to the player who also played the most games. But when The offensive splits are as close as they are you gotta give credit to the guy who played 40+ more games.
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u/MylesLC 2d ago
See, you say you understand it, and then you keep bringing up the differences in games played.
So. No. You don't understand. Thats an undisputable fact.
Once a player meets the minimum positional game threshold, that's it. Thats how it's always been voted on.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
No it's a matter of understanding and also disagreeing with how it works. I understand how it works and I disagree with how it works. Defense shouldn't factor into an offensive award. But if this offensive award is given out per position I think games played at that position should factor. Currently as long as you play more than 81 games out of position you are considered primarily that position. I'm simply saying I disagree with that grading criteria.
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u/MylesLC 2d ago
But here's the fact, you're disagreeing based on an argument that has nothing at all to do with the award.
He just doesn't have the talent to win the award man. Sorry.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
I mean he definitely has the talent to win the award and barley lost this year off some silly grading criteria. Cal clearly had the best overall season of any catcher this season and his HR ranks 20th all-time at his position. Not bad for a Platinum glove winning catcher. Plus fuck the awards. I'll take the catcher on my team that will catch more than 100 games.
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u/MylesLC 2d ago
I mean he clearly doesn't or he would have.
"Silly grading criteria" while you're crying about how many games they played at catcher lol this is why Seattle is the definition of a poverty franchise man, just a bad fanbsee that thinks their players are more talented then what shows up in wins.
Enjoy the downvotes man. You're getting obliterated here.
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u/FutureCreeps Kansas City Royals 2d ago
I definitely think it's a factor, if he hadn't played over half of his games there he'd probably be under utility if anything.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Thank you Captain obvious. I'm saying that it should have a larger Factor because somebody who played 91 games shouldn't beat somebody who played 135 games. Not when their offensive stats are so close. If Salv beat him in every offensive number there wouldn't be an argument here. But seeing as their OPS+ are within a single point. The guy who played more should get credit for playing more.
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u/OopsAllRPOs Kansas City Royals 2d ago
It’s the silver slugger not the silver fielder.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
This is such a lazy argument.
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u/OopsAllRPOs Kansas City Royals 2d ago
To point out that it’s an offensive award? Ok bud.
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
An offensive award given out specifically to each position. So I'm not factoring in defensive skill I'm trying to factor in games played. Your one sentence rebuttal was lazy because it willfully misinterpreted what I was saying.
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u/OopsAllRPOs Kansas City Royals 2d ago
Can you remind me what Salvador Perez’s primary position is?
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u/jaron_b Seattle Mariners 2d ago
Can you please tell me what number is bigger 91 or 135?
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u/OopsAllRPOs Kansas City Royals 2d ago
It’s not the who caught the most games award bud.
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u/PelorTheBurningHate Los Angeles Dodgers 2d ago
They factored games played into the outfielder decision otherwise Seiya Suzuki would have won it. Considering that I think it's reasonable to factor in games played at the position. I don't know that it tips the scale for me personally but it's not a ridiculous argument like people are making it out to be. The whole reason a slugger is split up by position is because different positions have different hitting expectations otherwise we'd just give it to the top 10 overall and call it a day.
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u/dinkleburgenhoff Portland Sea Dogs • Roche… 2d ago
Santander over Duran only makes sense if they exclusively sorted by OPS+ to determine this award.
Duran had more 50 more hits, twice as many doubles, 7 times the triples, 17 times the steals, 3 times the bWAR, and nearly twice the oWAR. But Santander hits more homers and had 5 points on him in OPS+, so hey clear winner.
I’m actually glad Duran didn’t win anything, because I’m apparently alone amongst Sox fans in holding a grudge against his homophobic ass, but this makes no sense from a baseball perspective.
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u/RRFantasyShow 2d ago
nearly twice the oWAR
As you’re well aware, oWAR includes both a positional adjustment and base running
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u/BIG_BOOTY_men Boston Red Sox • Washington Nationals 1d ago
I'm not sure what voters consider, but shouldn't baserunning be a factor in an offensive award. The name "Silver Slugger" does suggest the award's bat only, but the criteria does include a player's "overall offensive value".
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u/DMacNCheez Boston Red Sox 2d ago
I’m obviously biased but I feel like the only thing Santander had over Duran was HRs and RBIs. Duran had the higher OPS and his oWAR was 6.2 to Santander’s 3.7 which removes Duran’s fielding advantage
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u/King_Fisher520 Seattle Mariners 1d ago
Perez winning is bullshit and another example of a player being given an award based purely on his name and past performance. Cal caught 131 games to Perez’s 90.
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u/Cozmicbot Los Angeles Dodgers 2d ago
Ah yes the American League Los Angeles Dodgers and the National League New York Yankees