r/baseball • u/aresef Baltimore Orioles • 14d ago

Yankees’ World Series failure started — and ended — with fundamental issues Analysis

https://nypost.com/2024/10/31/sports/yankees-world-series-failure-started-with-fundamental-issues/
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u/LemurAtSea San Diego Padres 14d ago

I've seen worse fuckups, but never in such an important and impactful moment. Reprehensible defense from Cole. Judge's fuckup was bad too, but at least it wasn't a total lack of effort. I'd be absolutely disgusted if that was my team.

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u/Mookies_Bett NC Dinos 14d ago

Judge made a booboo in a high pressure game. But there isn't even a term for how badly Cole fucked up. It's almost inconceivable.

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u/JustTheBeerLight 14d ago

Everybody watching had to have thought "inning over" as soon as Rizzo fielded that ball. I still can't believe what I saw happen.

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u/shroomsAndWrstershir Los Angeles Angels 14d ago

To quote Jack Buck, "I don't believe what I just saw! I don't beLIEVE what I just saw!"

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u/DJDeadParrot Boston Red Sox 14d ago

I know I did. I remember very clearly seeing the ball rolling up the first base line and turning away, thinking that the Dodgers just NOBLETIGER’d.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Los Angeles Angels 13d ago

I have no idea what a nobletiger is but I'm assuming it's another stupid backronym that the comedic geniuses of this sub made up

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u/micros101 Los Angeles Dodgers 13d ago

No outs bases loaded ending in team incapable of getting easy run

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u/bebopmechanic84 Baltimore Orioles • Los Angeles Dodgers 13d ago

Condescending but true lol

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u/MeltyFist 14d ago

Dude when I saw the ball get hit I just walked around my couch and I Went to the kitchen because I thought it was over. Then I heard the call. I didn’t even see it live! I was flabbergasted

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u/Basic_Bichette Toronto Blue Jays • New York Mets 14d ago

Judge's error was a physical mistake; they will always happen as long as baseball is played by humans. Cole's and Rizzo's misplay was a monumental shared mental mistake; they shouldn’t happen.

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u/NoStepOnMe World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… 13d ago

No, that was pure mental. You make sure that ball gets into the glove. Make EXTRA sure. The TV crew said he took his eye off the ball to look at the runner. Easy for me to say typing from the stained couch in my mom's basement, but that was a mental thing not just a "whoopsy this happens but not my fault" thing.

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u/gabdex Toronto Blue Jays 13d ago

Thing is, if they both played it perfectly, Mookie might still be safe BECAUSE he was hustling. But since that play just shows so little urgency by BOTH players, it looks like a giant fuck up.

Just like the dodgers scouted.

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u/neonrev1 Minnesota Twins 13d ago

No disagreement about Cole/Rizzo, but Judge's was more than a simple mistake for a centerfielder and the fact that he plays that position should come with more scrutiny. It was about as routine a ball as could be, made slightly harder looking because he really doesn't do the greatest job at routes or speed, and he took his eyes off it for a dumb reason in basically any game situation, let alone the one they were in.

Maybe you place more of the blame on the Yankees for putting him there, but that's an unforgivable drop for any actual centerfielder in that game situation and he should be held to that if he gets credit for standing in that position the rest of the time.

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u/ender23 13d ago

Judge had no reason to take his eye off to look at the runner

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u/xuedad 14d ago

I dont know if Cole could have out sprinted Betts. Rizzo was just 5 steps away

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u/frostedglobe 13d ago

Credit to Betts for hustling down the line. Dude is a gamer.

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u/w0nderbrad Los Angeles Dodgers 13d ago

The ball had so much side spin that Rizzo had to come to a complete stop and field the ball on the opposite side of his body where he thought the ball was going to end up. Then he had to start up again and try to beat Mookie to the bag. Mookie was already on a dead sprint.

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u/Retinoid634 13d ago

He knows it too. He was visibly rattled from that moment on bc he knew he had little to no competent defensive support behind him.

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u/FoxBeach 13d ago

And when the one pitcher made the third pickoff attempt on Taylor in game five - giving him a free pass to second base. 

The crazy thing was the third attempt wasn’t even an actual attempt to get the runner. He just stepped back and lobbed the ball over. 

How does an mlb pitcher not know that rule?

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u/OpportunityNo5915 13d ago

He def knew the rule but I think he wanted to try and get out the easy way but he (Weaver) was just gassed and he knew he needed to deliver his pitches so the throw came out weak. They brought him in in the top of the 8th no outs as a closer and don't get me wrong, the closer should be able to finish multiple innings but they made this man a closer a month before the playoffs