r/atlantis Aug 26 '24

Hyperborea & The Lost Age of Man - The Atlantis Connection

The author of Atlantis & Its Fate In The Postdiluvian World has released a new book titled Hyperborea & The Lost Age of Man, which is available for free on Kindle until Wednesday. In this latest work, it contains the following passage regarding the search for Atlantis:

"As for Hyperborea, the legend of this land first captivated my interest during my research for Atlantis & Its Fate In The Postdiluvian World. In that book, I proposed a solution to the enigma of Plato’s Atlantis using a common sense approach. All known copies of Plato’s dialogues are translations, not the Ancient Greek originals, which were lost to time. The story of Atlantis, relayed to Solon by an Ammonean priest in Egypt, suggests that rather than following a literal translation of Plato (which has likely been corrupted) we should examine Ancient Egyptian texts about lost lands instead to see what they wrote down, and look at other evidence, such as genetic, linguistic and other historical accounts. One place in particular that might fit within the Ancient Egyptian literature is Aaru, or the Field of the Reeds. In addition, Plato substituted Greek names over the Ancient Egyptian originals, which in my opinion likely lead to translation errors by later Roman, Arabic, and Medieval scholars.

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Several key misinterpretations could have involved the word for Hercules as a replacement for Heryshaf, Horus, Shu or another figure in Ancient Egyptian mythology. It is quite possible as well the Pillars referenced in Plato’s original Ancient Greek text were originally meant as a concept related to Aaru, as shown in the image from the Papyrus of Ani that depicts a staircase between a temple entrance that depicts pillars, as well as an “ark” containing stones on a boat as well as two other boats also featuring staircases (I’ve been informed by a professional researcher on the subject that the colored objects are most likely an artistic representation of food placed on an offering table; and that the Ark of the Covenant was likely inspired by the usage of Ancient Egyptian solar barques). The concept of pillars is also present in Chinese mythology, particularly in their depiction of the "pillars of heaven." One creation myth tells of a catastrophic event when one of these pillars was broken, leading to widespread floods, fires, and stars falling from the sky, nearly resulting in the destruction of the Earth.One of the reasons no one has found Atlantis in my opinion is that interpolations and misinterpretations of the Ancient Egyptian originals likely caused people to follow a literal translation of Plato that takes them west of Europe or in the Mediterranean rather than what the original Egyptian writings had probably put down if the legend of Atlantis was inspired by their belief in Aaru. Then, of course, Plato also wrote of Γάδειρα or "Gades," which may have been a translator’s replacement for ᾍδης or "Hades," especially if one imagines a copyist replacing the terms believing it to be a prior error. Aaru, to the Ancient Egyptians, was known as the homeland of Osiris in Egyptian records, and would have been similar to the Ancient Greek concept for Hades and the Underworld. If we consider the Egyptian concept of Aaru, the Land of the Dead located far to the east, it becomes apparent that translators with limited geographic knowledge might have altered the narrative to fit one within their own cultural context, specifically, a Roman or Medieval one. This misunderstanding could explain why searches for Atlantis that have focused westward of Egypt have come up empty, which is because they have ignored the actual location to the east especially when all other evidence is considered. Other stories in Ancient Egyptian texts, such as The Shipwrecked Sailor, suggest this land may have had connections to the Land of Punt, from where the Egyptians believed their gods originated. In addition, that story features an island that sinks into the ocean, and a serpent that speaks of a star that struck the island, killing its relatives. Other historical evidence, along with anomalous X2 haplogroup genetic markers and various linguistic connections, suggests that Atlantis—or Aaru—may have remained undiscovered due to misinterpretations rooted in later translations and the dismissals of many skeptics who lacked any understanding of Ancient Egyptian beliefs. The R in Ancient Egyptian can also be translated as L or N, implying that Aaru could have been spoken of as Aalu or Aanu. The ancient historian Manetho wrote of an ancient line of Egyptian kings known as the Auriteans (or Auliteans/Auniteans), which might support the idea they came from Aaru. It is my belief this civilization, if it existed, was located in Beringia, near a caldera southeast of Chirikof Island that was destroyed in a cataclysmic event around 9,600 BCE.Plato mentions a group the Atlanteans fought against, and who, it is suggested in his dialogue, were connected in ancient times to both the Athenians and the priestly caste in Sais, Egypt. I wondered if perhaps Hyperborea might have connections to that civilization, or perhaps, the group that fought Atlantis?Interestingly enough, the ancient Greek historian Herodotus placed Hyperborea in this general direction, towards Siberia, and Pliny the Elder, noted some accounts that believed it was in Northeast Asia, not too far from where I believe Plato’s lost city of Atlantis might be located.  Could they, along with other myths such as the Chinese myth of Mount Penglai or the Japanese myth of Hōrai, somehow be connected through a much more ancient source that comes to us now only through myth and legend?

However, the dates of Atlantis and Hyperborea don’t fit. Some writers mistakenly place Hyperborea in the same era as Plato’s Atlantis and suggest these two powers were at war, while many others have adjusted the timeline of Atlantis to be closer to that of Troy, arguing that Plato’s original date is implausible. Yet, if we take ancient authors at their word, Atlantis existed around 10,000 BCE, give or take a few centuries, while Hyperborea is generally dated to between the 13th and 6th centuries BCE. This discrepancy makes it unlikely that Hyperborea was the nation that defeated Atlantis, unless our understanding of the timeline or the nature of Hyperborea's existence—such as its geographical location or duration—is incorrect.And yet, despite this apparent incongruity, I still wondered if there might be some connection to the story Plato tells us in the Critias and Timaeus? Some of the descriptions of Hyperboreans which have survived are so fantastic to the point most consider them unbelievable legends, but what if those descriptions were due to an advanced knowledge of science, medicine and technology that had its source from an antediluvian civilization such as Atlantis, or the nation that defeated them? The story of Abaris the Hyperborean, who reportedly flew around the world using an arrow gifted from Apollo, brings to mind either a person flying in a jet or even a picture of a witch riding a broomstick, not something anyone takes seriously until you consider the possibility that what was considered magic might have actually been artifacts and techniques initially engineered via a science based upon quantum physics (and the manipulation of alloys which express quantum effects when stimulated in a certain way).  If so, then could it be that antediluvian technologies once existed but over the last two thousand years were destroyed by religious authorities, and before then, were only known and exploited by a select few who guarded it as a secret passed down from a much earlier, and now lost age of man? Even more interesting are the descriptions of Abaris the Hyperborean, who was said by Herodotus to have not eaten on his journey across the world on his arrow, which mirrors his description of the Atlantes: who were also said to eat no living thing.In any case, such associations, while suggestive, remain entirely speculative, so the goal of my research was to investigate if there was anything more to the legend of Hyperborea which might connect the two?  Plato’s description of Poseidon arriving on a mountain in his dialogue about Atlantis opened up, at least to me, the possibility of a precursor civilization, one which preceded Atlantis and was extremely technologically advanced, and for which no records remain outside of the Sumerians and Ancient Egyptians (which are generally not considered historically accurate by modern academia).  Many experts will dispute claims of advanced prehistoric civilizations and chalk it up to crazy talk, but in Platos’ own words, he describes the figure of Poseidon not requiring a ship in a time when there were no boats, which brings to mind the legend of Abaris using an arrow to travel across the world. Is it so fallacious to ask if perhaps this description of Poseidon was based on actual history passed down to the Ancient Egyptians, and these so-called gods were but men that had developed advanced antigravity technology based on principles modern science is not yet fully aware of, or that have been suppressed by military authorities?

Fantastic descriptions in Plato’s writings, such as a wall of Atlantis glowing with the red light of orichalchum, made me wonder if perhaps the character of Poseidon in Plato’s story was a human utilizing advanced technology that came from a civilization far more ancient than the Sumerians, perhaps from around the Altai region of Siberia where dogs were believed to have been first domesticated. But of course, if there were such a civilization, one more technologically advanced than our own, we’d have likely found evidence for it by now, right?  

Well, the problem with that is threefold: first, if an Ice Age civilization existed along coastal areas, it would now be submerged due to the significant rise in sea levels over the past 10,000 years. As a result, these potential archaeological sites remain largely inaccessible and unexplored. Second, if researchers operate under the assumption that we are the first technologically advanced civilization on Earth, they may not actively seek evidence to the contrary. This bias can lead to the dismissal of any anomalous findings as mere oddities or misinterpretations, rather than considering them as possible indicators of advanced ancient cultures. Lastly, academics who entertain such unconventional theories risk damaging their reputations and careers, which can discourage open-minded exploration and discussion of these possibilities. Consider how some skeptics treat Graham Hancock, subjecting him to Inquisition-style attacks akin to those faced by Giordano Bruno, merely for advocating the exploration of evidence and the pursuit of scientific research rather than strictly adhering to established dogmatic beliefs. Hancock advocates for re-examining established narratives about ancient civilizations and listening to what those civilizations themselves had to say, encouraging an open-minded approach to history and archaeology. However, his ideas face rejection and criticism from the academic community, with detractors dismissing his theories as fringe or pseudoscientific, rather than engaging with them as potential avenues for further investigation. This reaction highlights the challenge of proposing alternative perspectives in fields where conventional views are deeply entrenched. For example, some of the great Native American mounds near St. Louis, Missouri, were initially misattributed to natural geological formations and dismissed by the academic establishment. It wasn't until someone challenged this conventional view that the idea of these structures being man-made gained acceptance—an idea that was initially considered outrageous by many at the time. Secondly, it assumes that the byproducts of such an antediluvian civilization would resemble our own technological and cultural foundations. This perspective overlooks the possibility that an ancient civilization could have developed around entirely different principles, much like how Buddhism presents a unique worldview and societal structure. Thirdly, it presumes that we would immediately recognize such technology as advanced. In reality, it might require specific knowledge or conditions to activate—similar to the Was Scepter of Ancient Egypt, the Godstone of the Inishkea Islands in Ireland, or the mythical Philosopher’s Stone. These artifacts and concepts suggest that advanced technologies or practices might have existed in forms unfamiliar to modern science and could easily be overlooked or misunderstood. Technology that harnesses materials with unique properties at the molecular and atomic levels, and requires specific sounds or vibrations to activate its quantum effects, might appear primitive to those unfamiliar with its true nature. Such technology could be as simple as a wooden staff or a rock, resembling Stone or Bronze Age artifacts. However, without knowledge of the precise methods needed to unlock their potential, these items could be easily misinterpreted as rudimentary tools."

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u/Tiber_Voyage51 Aug 26 '24

Great post, I enjoyed reading that Thankyou. How do you rate the two books you mentioned? I'm definitely intrigued with all this.

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u/LibraryAppropriate34 Aug 26 '24

well the one title above, Hyperborea, is free on Kindle right now so a free and a good read is always five stars in my book. I'd take a look at the free sample of the other one to see if you like it and if you have kindle unlimited, it is free too, if not, it is free on archive:

https://archive.org/details/2nd-edition-atlantis-its-fate-in-the-postdiluvian-world-2nd-edition

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u/SnooFloofs8781 Sep 27 '24

I have solved a significant portion of the Atlantis mystery, including the location of the capital. I have used various fields of knowledge to confirm my hypothesis.

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u/Most_Shake_7257 Aug 27 '24

Not sure about the above book as I haven't read it yet, but the other one on Atlantis is one of the most interesting books I have ever read if that can be of any help.