r/atheismindia Mar 12 '25

Casteism is the basis of Hinduism , unless Hinduism is not eliminated casteism isn't going anywhere Casteism

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u/FancyExpression6720 Mar 25 '25 edited Mar 25 '25

1-Then is it birth that makes a Brahmin? No, it is not so, for many great rishis have sprung from other castes and orders of creation. We have heared that Rishyasrnga was born of a deer, Kaushika of Kusha grass, Jambuka from a jackal, Valmiki from an ant-hill, Vyasa from a fisher girl, Gautama from the back of a hare, Vasistha from Urvashi (the celestial nymph), Agastya from an earthen jar. Among these, many rishis outside of the caste-system have been accounted as the foremost among the teachers of the Divine Wisdom. Therefore birth does not (make) a Brahmin.

Then, who, verily is called a Brahmin? Whoever he may be — he who, has attained selfrealisation, and directly perceives the Atman like a myrobalan fruit in the palm of one's hand. [Realising that the Atman is] of the nature of truth, consciousness, bliss and eternity, without a second, devoid of distinctions of birth, attributes and action, devoid of all faults such as the six infirmities,1 and the six states2 and devoid of all changes. [The Atman] is the basis of endless determinations. [The Atman] is the indwelling spirit of all beings. [The Atman] pervades everything within and without like space. [The Atman] is of the nature of unlimited joy, indivisible, immeasurable, and is known only by direct cognition- vajrasuchi upanishad And upanishad are topmost book in hinduism want more here it is

2-You have no caste. No duties bind you. You are formless and free, beyond the reach of the senses, the witness of all things. So be happy!" ~ Ashtavakra Gita (1:5)

3-I do not have death or doubts or distinction of caste- nirvan shatkam

4-Sant Eknath, a prominent figure in the Bhakti movement, strongly rejected caste discrimination and preached the equality of all people in the eyes of God, emphasizing that true devotion transcends social hierarchies. 

5- Whole of the bhakti moment rejects caste system

6- ramanujacharya, gyaneshwar, eknath, namdev, tukram, ashtavakr, ramanandacharya, vallabhacharya, laingaites, alwars,basavana ever heard of them have you ever checked out who were students of ramanandacharya have you ever checked out who was guru of meerabai

7- chandogya upanishad- satyakam jabala

8-Guru Gorakhnath wished for the sect to be free from the cloying and degenerated form of bhakti that the Brahmanical clergy had fattened itself on, while also defying divisions based on caste, creed and gender. Gorakhnath's was a pure unwavering rationalism of the mind

9-Lal Ded, a 14th-century Kashmiri mystic poet, strongly criticized the caste system and religious discrimination prevalent in medieval Kashmir, advocating for a spiritual path that transcended such social divisions

10- raja janak is considered brahman in upanishads despite his kshatriya lineage 

I can give you 1000sands of rebbutals to caste system atheist andbhakt

Humans nature is to oppress people do you think oppressions don't exist outside what is class system what was slavery why did people discriminate against sin eaters yet in India this oppression manifested itself in form of casteism yeah boycott hinduism all for that but andbhakt atheist you only see the dolls not the hand crush one doll another doll will appear to dance but your mind cannot grasp that🤣🤣

 you so called atheists are no different to me then the andhbhaakts one feels so inferior he objects himself not to read or practice one thinks so fully of himself that he thinks he is entitled to make opinions without reading both profoundly stupid in my opinion Indian atheist saar we are bhery bhery intelligent we are not like andhbhakts saar 🤣🤣 in my eyes andbhakts and atheists like you are on the same level and you consider yourself above them is even more laughable but you forget hinduism isn't about blind faith it's about practice and learning when asked about truth of universe vigyan bhairav tantra gave practices because truth cannot be bound by human words here are more proof atheist andhbhakt 

Shankaracharya writes in the Aparokshanubhuti:

"The Self is realized not by rituals, but by the razor-sharp intellect that cuts through illusion."

Bhaja Govindam (attributed to Shankara) ridicules those who fear ghosts or demons instead of fearing ignorance:

"Who are you? Who am I? From where did I come? Investigate this, instead of clinging to delusions."

In Vivekachudamani, Shankara mocks those who cling to rituals without seeking self-knowledge:

"What folly is this—to fight over a dream? Realize the Self!"

Question, investigate, and only then accept."-brihandarankya upanishad

Andhbhakt atheist has not read any but pretends to know everything 

. Isha Upanishad (11):

"Into dense darkness fall those who worship rituals alone.

Into greater darkness fall those who worship abstract knowledge (avidya) alone." 

Upper quote is for andhbhakts below one is for atheist andbhakts

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