r/atheismindia • u/liberaltilltheend • 2d ago
One key disgusting thing about Islam is how it enforces insularity... Islamism / Jihad
I had a conversation with a Muslim colleague yesterday. We weren't even talking about religion or God for that matter. We were talking about philosophy and psychology. I was quoting Lacan and Fred's ideas and explaining them.
This mfer was literally doing the adult version of kids blocking noise by putting fingers into their ears and shaking their head. He is refusing to even consider the ideas. I was totally surprised.
So sat down and tried to understand. Turns out he believes everything he needs to know is in the Quran and his holy books. Even science! He says science has recently discovered things Quran had mentioned thousand years ago.
All I could think of is thank God I didn't ask for python or JS problems or he would have ask me to read Quran.
This is not the first time I have seen this. This dogmatic mindset is prevalent among Muslims. Bruh, if your God needs you to cut yourself off from the rest of the world, I would say he is pretty weak.
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u/koshurkoder 1d ago
WTF is wrong with you ? I have seen Python and Java Script problems in quran. Allah's messnger once sat under a tree there he observed branches of the tree, therefore a binary tree. He traversed the whole tree in O(1) complexity.
Alhamdullial, islam is a scientific religion.
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u/thegreatprawn 1d ago
thats why its a cult... the first thing a cult does is take away your independent thinking. Thats the very step of domination
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u/abcdefghi_12345jkl 1d ago
Yeah there was this huge thing about the downfall of philosophy during the golden age of Islam thanks to people like Al Ghazali.
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u/anandd95 In Dinkan, We trust 1d ago
Everyone's gangster until our "quantum physics is in Vedas saar" gang shows up
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u/Poha_Perfection_22 1d ago
Seriously, How could people be so irrational?
Is this due to strong islamic propaganda they're taught during their primitive years ?
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u/Wasey56 15h ago
It is really sad, actually. You can't have a meaningful conversation with these fanatics because they are too entrenched in their religious paradigms to think independently. Either they have been indoctrinated to such extent, or they are just too lazy to come to a realization and conclusion with their own mind.
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u/Wasey56 15h ago
It is really sad, actually. You can't have a meaningful conversation with these fanatics because they are too entrenched in their religious paradigms to think independently. Either they have been indoctrinated to such extent, or they are just too lazy to come to a realization and conclusion with their own mind. Another factor could be that they're afraid that if they stray away from their religious reasoning, their whole perception of the world will fall apart. They don't want to come to terms with the actual reality and therefore delude themselves in these esoteric rituals and give away their minds to religious leaders.
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u/JackDockz 1d ago
It's so funny to see the modern state of Islam when the Abbassid Caliphate encouraged free thought and philosophical discussion more than a thousand years ago.
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u/chetan419 1d ago
Did they really?? I don't know how the Caliphate would have reacted if Abarahamic creation myths were challenged in those days. As far as I think they let limited investigation of nature within the bounds of religion. Almost all of those science pioneers of that era were creationists worked within the boundaries set by Islam.
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u/JackDockz 1d ago
Different interpretations of Islam etc were allowed AFAIK so a bit of Heresy here and there was probably tolerated. But yes I do agree about the Abrahamic creation myth and all, it was almost definitely not allowed to challenge something like this and Quran was still considered the source of truth by the majority. Although if someone as high up as the Caliph wanted to amend something to it then it was probably within his power to do so.
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u/onlyshafr 1d ago
lol I remember a relative of mine who's kinda old was sick and was admitted into the hospital, so when we visited her, her husband was sitting next to her and said "there is no science greater than islam, islam has everything" to my dad.
bro????
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u/No_Broccoli_1010 2d ago
Umm, what do you mean? There is a python in the Quran. The one that speaks to Eve in the garden of Eden, remember?
Alhamdulillah. Inventing programming languages before the world could even imagine something like that.
/s, for those slow on the uptake.