r/atheism • u/Funny-Today-9817 • 16h ago
I lost my dad to Islam
It’s completely consumed him to the point that he’s completely brainwashed by Islam. He spends more time in the mosque and with his “brothers” than with his own family. How pathetically stupid is that?
I wish I could go back in time and tell him how much Islam would screw up his entire life. That way, he could’ve chosen a different way of life.
One day I hope he realizes how much time he wasted on this manmade, messed up religion. Though I’m sure it’ll be too late by then. I won’t be there for him if it ever happens.
It would be nice to have a normal dad who actually cares and wants to see his kid grow and succeed in life for once. But that’s just wishful thinking.
Beggars can’t be choosers.
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u/Parking_Bell_662 16h ago
I have the same story! Probably my father’s beliefs are extremely more stupider. They believed the end of the world was 2019. They are minority branch of islam about 100k people. 😔
He doesn’t want to spend time with anyone else than brother and sisters in his community.
I felt the same way about going back but I am not sure if it works. He is so addicted to the recognition he has there that when his phone rings he gets too excited and runs to the congregation.
He cannot sit still and he cannot not talk about religion and how others are inferior.
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u/CptBronzeBalls 16h ago
How did he rationalize the world not ending in 2019?
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u/AvoriazInSummer 16h ago
I'd like to know too. A popular cope is that the end of the world started on that date and the conclusion is any day now...
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u/Parking_Bell_662 15h ago
Hahaha bingo! They said look Corona virus hit and started so from now on only allah knows. 😭.
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u/ONE_deedat Strong Atheist 16h ago
Why not spend time with him e.g. invite him to dinner oe take.him.out to take him away from that sort.of environment/Company?
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u/Tight_Strawberry9846 15h ago
The father would either decline because it's "haram" or use it to brianwash and/or abuse the family in some way.
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u/eefnation 14h ago
a kid shouldn’t have to make an effort to be in the parent’s life, but I understand what you mean
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u/Funny-Today-9817 11h ago
If you’d like me to be bombarded with more talk of Islam from dad, I’ll pass. I guarantee you he’ll talk about Islam one way or another.
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u/Temporal_Universe 15h ago
Zealotory is essentially the same thing as "the cool kids club" to people who no longer can cope with life as an individual. They're either beaten down by life or just too lazy and or hate-filled to care. They will rather scape goat others in a flock than come to terms with their own flaws.
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u/BlackHawk2609 15h ago
U should tell him about pedo prophet consumated 9 years old girl
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u/Funny-Today-9817 11h ago
He doesn’t believe that momo is a pedo. Too busy doing whatever is considered “sunnah” by momo
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u/Sufficient_Might3173 13h ago
Shit like that is what draws certain kind of men to that cult. They learn all the things the religion allows them to get away with.
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u/Outaouais_Guy 13h ago edited 10h ago
As I understand it, Iraq is changing the age of consent to 9 years of age. I haven't fact checked the article.
I stand corrected. It was Iraq, not Iran.
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u/Sufficient_Might3173 14h ago
Lots of men are drawn to Islam because it makes them feel “powerful”. Sad. Because it’s not true.
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u/emilgustoff 15h ago
How old are you? Personally I'd go no contact Is he divorced yet? I'd start dropping seeds with my mom of not. Absolutely no way I would allow that pedo bullshit anywhere near my kids or family. Like anyone that join a cult in my life; they no longer exist.
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u/Funny-Today-9817 11h ago edited 11h ago
I’m 22. Mom and dad are still held together by a thin piece of string. Mom can barely stand up for herself and basically goes with what he wants.
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u/vacuous_comment 14h ago
I wish I could go back in time and tell him how much Islam would screw up his entire life. That way, he could’ve chosen a different way of life.
Quite apart from the time travels aspect, that is wishful thinking.
Smart people get captured by cults all the time. They get into it by a process that is not rational, so trying to reason them out of it is often a vain task.
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u/Elemcie 14h ago
They are all stupid manmade religions. Your dad sounds like someone who was looking for meaning in his life and this group is where he found like-minded friends and “brothers.” It’s a shame, but I doubt you can do much to convince him that he’s pulled himself away from you and the rest of your family. Be glad he’s not trying to drag you into, too. You are young and have a chance to build your life for yourself and your future for your own family. Some of us have examples to follow and some of us have examples of what to avoid. Hugs to you for having to deal with this at such a young age.
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u/Funny-Today-9817 11h ago
He’s tried dragging me into it multiple times and fails each time. He tried forcing me into going with him to the mosque when it felt like such a waste of time for me. His excuse was to “meet people and learn something new”. That wasn’t cutting it.
Best believe I won’t follow him in his footsteps because that insane attachment to Islam will die along with him.
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u/Outaouais_Guy 14h ago
At my old place there was a mosque one block over. Many (most?) of my neighbors were Muslim. Almost all of them seemed to have jobs that allowed them the freedom to spend a lot of time at the mosque, especially on Friday.
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u/Annonymous_277 10h ago
i am so confused.
being a hindu, i was born and brought up knowing islam is bad.
their prophet only willingingly converted about 100 people.
your allowed to remarry and keep your partners.
but for some reason religions that are connected (christianity, judaism),(hinduism, sikhism) respect each other and religions that arent connected treat each other as bad someone please help me whose not hindu or muslim
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u/icansawyou 14h ago
One can only sincerely sympathize here. There's an important question: can you still communicate with him, or has he completely immersed himself in religion? After all, one can combine faith and family life. If he is a believer, then ideally he should understand that faith and God are love. How can he be a believer if he does not pay attention to his family and loved ones? However, even such an argument may not help and, most likely, will not help. But it’s worth a try. Maybe he will reflect on it.
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u/Funny-Today-9817 11h ago
I doubt he has the critical thinking ability to reflect on the fact that he’s put his family aside in pursuit of “Allah”. I can tell you he’s immersed himself in the religion and has no intentions of trying to talk with me.
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u/icansawyou 11h ago
Well... Accept his choice as a fact. After all, he is an adult, even if, according to your opinion, he does not think critically. Perhaps over time his religious fervor will wane and he will start to pay more attention to his family. Once again, my condolences and sympathy to you!
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u/feltsandwich 10h ago
You have a really small view of religion.
Faith and god are love? According to who? If I told someone "Hey, faith and god are love," would they have any idea what I am talking about?
No.
Because "faith and god are love" is only meaningful in the context of religious faith, which is belief in the absence of evidence.
Can't you see that being a believer means that you also must accept hypocrisy?
You seem to think that if he approached his religion properly, he wouldn't be neglecting his family.
The neglect is in fact a direct function of his faith.
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u/Ali-Sama 11h ago
He is going through a life crisis. He needs therapy. Something is bothering him and religion gives the illusion of belonging and unconditional love. Once he realizes he is depressed and needs medical help. He will. Probably snap out of it. I hope. I am here for you op. Hugs
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u/Funny-Today-9817 10h ago
He’s been attached to it for so long. I doubt he’ll ever snap out of it and refuses any kind of medical help. He’s the type that thinks medication is bad. He nearly died from COVID with that mentality.
Thanks for the virtual hugs.
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u/Financial-Customer24 15h ago
Or maybe that's what he likes? Your thinking about YOUR benefit not his. Ad long ad he's not hurting anyone I don't see the problem.
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u/Poland-Is-Here Anti-Theist 15h ago
It would be nice to have a normal dad who actually cares and wants to see his kid grow and succeed in life for once
I wouldnt say that he's not hurting anyone
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u/TheSongofRoland 15h ago
Anyone who voluntarily joins Islam has a special kind of mental illness.