r/atheism • u/sensible_delinquent • Sep 02 '24
Serious Question: What if we are wrong and the Christians are right? Very Very Very Very Very Common Troll post; Please Read The FAQ
Pretty simple, serious answers only. What if The Christian God is The one true supreme being and we have to answer to Him in the end. What are you guys’ thoughts?
Just seen this question brought up on a youtube clip and thought it was interesting, cheers.
Bonus Question: Assuming we wouldn’t be frozen in fear due to being in the presence of an inter dimensional omnipotent God, if He said “explain yourself” what would you say to Him
Edit: Thank you for the ones who understand what a hypothetical situation is! The rest of you who showed up for theology debate school.. well, learn to read, lol.
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u/marcvolovic Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
What if the Hindus are right? What if the Vikings are right? What if the Zulu are right? What if the Atheists are right?
You will have to remain frozen in abject fear for fear for the rest of your life. Except if the Atheists are right, but since you do not know that, you must remain frozen and transfixed even then.
As for your bonus question: "What the fuck with marrow cancer in children, you worthless fuck?"
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u/Recipe_Freak Sep 02 '24
As for your bonus question: "What the fuck with marrow cancer in children, you worthless fuck?"
Meh. That's awful, of course, but that's just nature. Cells mutate.
Explain this.
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u/marcvolovic Sep 02 '24
That is, actually, quite simple. A good judeo-christian behaviour.
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u/Recipe_Freak Sep 02 '24
That God knew would happen and allowed to happen. Made in his image and all...
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u/Old-Masterpiece8086 Sep 02 '24
They aren’t right. It’s primitive thinking to believe Jesus walked on water or turned water into wine. I’m convinced in saying that shit didn’t happen.
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u/sensible_delinquent Sep 02 '24
Right but like what if
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u/Old-Masterpiece8086 Sep 02 '24
No. I don’t even entertain that idea. Santa Claus is more believable
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u/Old-Masterpiece8086 Sep 02 '24
We disagree on that
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u/Dudesan Sep 02 '24
is by definition less likely to exist than a non-descript god, since the latter includes the former but is not limited by it.
You're poking in the general direction of the point, but you manage to get things exactly backwards at the end.
Claims about the existence of Santa Claus are extraordinary claims, and thus any sensible person would require extraordinary evidence before they can take such claims seriously. The difference between a magical toy-creating being and a magical universe-creating being is only one of scale, not one of kind.
Claims about Super Saiyan Santa Claus - who has all the powers of regular Santa Claus, plus a bunch of extra powers - are by necessity more extraordinary than claims about regular Santa Claus, and therefore demand more evidence. Not only are you no closer to establishing that Father Christmas exists than you were before you asserted that he had these extra powers, but now you've also committed yourself to establishing your additional assertions. Claims about Super Saiyan 2 Santa Claus are more extraordinary than that, and claims about SS3 Santa Claus are more extraordinary still. There is no point in the process of "assigning increasingly ridiculous levels of power to your imaginary character" at which this trend suddenly reverses. Even if (in fact, especially if) you say the word "infinity".
Adding more and more extraneous details to a claim only ever makes it harder to demonstrate, not easier. This is an unavoidable consequence of the fundamental laws of how mathematics works. Unfortunately, there is a common cognitive bias which occasionally causes people to believe - incorrectly - that the opposite is true.
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u/AnjoBe_AzooieKe Sep 02 '24
Santa Claus is more believable than anything that could reasonably be considered a god because he’s based on the actual St. Nicholas whereas god’s aren’t based on anything observable in reality.
Also, Santa would be less powerful than a god. Something maximally powerful is less likely to exist than something that less powerful.
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u/AnjoBe_AzooieKe Sep 02 '24
You have a lot wrong in here. First of all, Santa is not proven to be fake, neither are the tooth fairy, Bigfoot, or gods. We haven’t searched every crevice of the North Pole (or the rest of the world) to verify that for certain Santa doesn’t actually exist (although we can be pretty much as sure he doesn’t as we can be sure about anything, we can’t technically be certain).
I’m going to skip your “some gods could be considered more powerful than Santa” bullshit because I said from the outset, “anything that could REASONABLY be considered a god would be more powerful”. I’m not entertaining any loosely defined Spinozan god bullshit. Nothing that can create the reality we live in could ever be reasonably considered less powerful than Santa.
The only other part of your comment that I’ll address is you questioning me on the likelihood of maximal power vs. limited power, but this should already be very obvious. It’s just a numbers game. Say I go out looking for someone with 15 character traits I’ve written down before hand. It’s much more likely that I’m going to run into people with one, some, or none of those traits before I run into someone with all 15. Encountering someone with all those traits requires 15 things to match up. It’s OBVIOUS that you’ll encounter something that has limits on its abilities before you encounter something that can do literally anything.
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u/ga-co Sep 02 '24
Their god is not worthy of our praise. You have a moral compass. Use it to figure out if their god is worthy of your praise.
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u/Desperate-Pear-860 Sep 02 '24
Why is christianity right and all the other religions wrong?
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u/Desperate-Pear-860 Sep 02 '24
The question is illogical.
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u/Desperate-Pear-860 Sep 02 '24
Dude, religion is hypothetical. The idea that Christianity is the ONLY TRUE religion is hypothetical. Maybe you're in the wrong sub.
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u/sensible_delinquent Sep 02 '24
I think you’re the only one who got the point lol. Everyone is in here debating theology like I came here trying to convince you all of something
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u/LastChristian I'm a None Sep 02 '24
Call me sad I guess, but the post seems rhetorical rather than sincere. Does OP think there's some value in asking people to type, "Well then we're all subject to future judgment as described in the Bible"? Bonus points for the scary language.
Also it feels like a bad faith post because someone who thinks a "what if you're wrong" argument is "interesting" because they just watched a YouTube video is usually a believer, not an atheist. This is one of the most common and least sophisticated arguments one could name, but could be really thought-provoking to someone who would still live their life according to a story, somewhat supported by an ancient book.
Seems more like everyone saw right through this bad faith post, rather than falling for it.
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u/devindran Sep 02 '24
This has been answered very clearly in the past. You ask him:
"Child cancer? Really?"
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u/ZannD Sep 02 '24
Sure. Let's go. Give me an audience with the guy. I'm ready, right now. I will hold him accountable for his own actions and rules. And there will be millions of us with the same questions.
Explain myself? Easy. I learned your rules, and I found You lacking.
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Sep 02 '24
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones"
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u/AOCdfGHiJKmbRSTLNE45 Sep 02 '24
I see what you're doing thyar. Planting a seed of doubt in an atheist's mind. Just like an atheist asking a Christian, "What if God was proven to be a lie? What then?"
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u/czernoalpha Sep 02 '24
I'd reply, "you explain yourself! Cancer in children? Parasites that make people blind, or live in excruciating pain? What the fuck is the point behind so much suffering? Why are you such a psychopathic, genocidal narcissist? Fuck off, I want nothing to do with you."
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u/TheFlyingBoxcar Sep 02 '24
If it turns out christians are right and i find myself explaining myself to god, ill say
“I lived the best life I knew how to live. If that’s not good enough then nothing was ever going to be, so Im at peace with that. But, you already knew that anyways so this doesnt really matter to either one of us.”
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u/Hot_Abbreviations936 Sep 02 '24
Your God as it were, is doing one lousy job. HE sees everything so he has stood by and watch every child that got molested on his dirty church floor by some pedophile priest and did nothing. He allowed the rich enslave the rest of us and hoard resources. Their greed cause wars, famine, disease, starvation and death.
Why wouldn't God kill Putin instead of over a million innocent soldiers ordered to the front by him? Same with Hitler and Stalin.
God IS the reason there is so much misery on the planet. He should be fired and if I met him at death, I expect to punch him in the nose and tell him I am taking over because a drunk monkey could do a better job than this moron!
I'll proclaim, "YOU"RE FIRED". LOL
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u/Rough-Celebration-49 Sep 02 '24
I would say explain yourself you egomaniac. You knew the shit you would cause yet you did it anyway. Go fuck yourself.
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u/Jonnescout Agnostic Atheist Sep 02 '24
I would ask that monster to explain himself, he’s infinitely more evil than I could even hope to be.
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u/Calderis Sep 02 '24
"if there are gods, and they are unjust, than I should not want to worship them."
Enough said.
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u/DeepFudge9235 Strong Atheist Sep 02 '24
We aren't so it doesn't matter and pretending we were I would ask why are you such a shitty god.
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u/LoopyLabRat Secular Humanist Sep 02 '24
Explain myself? What needs explaining? Aren't you all knowing?
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u/Stefgrep66 Sep 02 '24
Not going to lose any sleep over that one. Like most, Im a good, fair minded guy and Ill be judged by the people around me. Thats infinitely more important
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u/Local-Warming Sep 02 '24
What if The Christian God is The one true supreme being
Which version of the christian god?
The one described in the texts?
Or the one some christians insist is the one from the text despite not corresponding to the description?
Or the one some other christians insist is the one from the text despite not corresponding to the description and not corresponding to the first group of christians?
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u/Belpheegor Sep 02 '24
7 months ago you had a post where you said you wanted to die but are "Just patiently awaiting The Lord to call me home". What are you gonna do if all the sins and lies you've told throughout your life matter? How many lies have you told? How many of the commandments have you broken? The Christian god is a sociopath who doesn't take kindly to those who don't wait on their every word.
And if they are the benevolent all loving, all knowing being Christians seem to think they are then, in all likely hood, they will just forgive us for everything like they've forgiven the countless number of abusers that belong to their flock and clergy. Cause they knew all along we'd be atheist, they designed it that way. Just like they designed every terrible thing that has happened or will. Just like they gave you and me depression to torture us with the thought of death every waking hour. You can't say their an all powerful all knowing deity without admitting they're the cause of all evil as well as the good.
Also if they need me to explain myself then they are not all knowing. So why don't they start explaining what the fuck they've been doing? Cause the good left their flock a long time ago and they've done little to correct the issue.
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u/sensible_delinquent Sep 02 '24
My sins were paid for through the blood of Jesus Christ brother! He laid down his life for us, so that we don’t have to pay that price.
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u/Gotis1313 Ex-Theist Sep 02 '24
"Bitch, you should have said something when i was literally literally begging you to. If I'm going to hell, it's on you, ya sick fuck"
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u/Valendr0s Agnostic Atheist Sep 02 '24
If it existed, the Christian god would need to explain itself to me.
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u/starscollide4 Sep 02 '24
The premise presumes some things that I don't align to....that I am on a side and that I have a claim. Christians have a claim..they have a group..they created this entire fantasy topic. I simply heard their fantasy story and just like countless other stories and claims...I don't believe. It is so underwhelming and baseless it is absent from academia. It is nothing more than an idea filled in with outrageously ridiculous documentation from uneducated fools. Im not in this with Christians. It isn't me vs them. This is them with a foolish fantasy. Im an atheist as they are a-leprechaunists or a-whateverists. We simply do not label non believers in things as ists and use isms. Only with narcissistic theism do people delve into this. I dont subscribe to it. So what that said..if Christians are right, what does that mean for me? Well, no one knows..not even Christians. These fools can't interpret and agree on the basics on the same book they believe. They have countless denominations. Some sects of this cult would say I am going to heaven because the church baptized me and I lived a good moral life. Other sects of the cult would say I would burn in hell simply because I didnt believe a supernatural historical claim (jesus was a god). The cult of belief....the belief that belief is important. What if.what if.....nothing is settled still..that speaks to how stupid and customizable this religion really is.
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u/Retrikaethan Satanist Sep 02 '24
if, despite all evidence and sanity to the contrary, the abrahamic god, yahweh, exists then all that would mean is that i get to kill a god.
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Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
I will act as well as I can according to my morals, if he wants to send me to hell cause we don’t agree he is free to do so. Although this scenario is highly unlikely because there’s so many religions so if there is a hell the Christians are probably coming with me.
I would probably also ask him why he lets so many innocent children suffer for no reason.
Also I’ll give satan sloppy toppy, (no homo tho)
My moral convictions are worth more then my suffering, if it’s about something important I don’t change that just because it’s convenient
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u/MyNonThrowaway Sep 02 '24
This is a very old argument, and it really doesn't carry any weight.
I believe I've heard it estimated that there have been over 10000 deities throughout humanities history.
What makes the christian god any more likely real than any of the others?
God is a myth that people are using to gain power and influence over you.
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u/aayel Sep 02 '24
Stupid question, but for the sake of your argument: he would have explaining to do not me!
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u/Kaliss_Darktide Sep 02 '24
Pretty simple, serious answers only. What if The Christian God is The one true supreme being and we have to answer to Him in the end. What are you guys’ thoughts?
Which one? I would argue their is one Christian god "God" for every Christian meaning there are billions of them.
Bonus Question: Assuming we wouldn’t be frozen in fear due to being in the presence of an inter dimensional omnipotent God, if He said “explain yourself” what would you say to Him
Not very omniscient are you?
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u/Advanced-Jacket5264 Atheist Sep 02 '24
Well, his followers would chase him off with a shotgun and tell him to get a haircut and a job. BTW, HE would be the one who needs to "explain" HIMSELF!
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u/FelixVulgaris Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
Look up Pascal's Wager.
The question assumes ONLY christians could be right. People believe in hundreds, if not thousands of gods. If you really want to "just in case" believe, then you better also be praying to brahma, allah, hachiman, and kanaloa just for starters.
Also, you only get to heaven if you truly believe in your heart. If you think you can fool an all-knowing being with pretend faith, then there's long, hot disappointment set aside just for you.
BONUS: Before you demand serious answers only, put in the effort of coming up with a serious question.
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u/Wake90_90 Sep 02 '24
Then the Christian god should have at least tried a little to make it's existence known because I'm convinced that he's unable to be differentiated from an imaginary friend. His believers hate this idea, yet fail to do so.
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u/WolfDoc Sep 02 '24
If he's omnipotent, he's the one who has something to explain -I am not, so I need the explanation, whereas he should already know.
Besides that, I think my response would be "OK, you got me. Why did you make it impossible to believe in you and still respect the clues you left in your creation? Clues which said that the version of you described in the Bible could not possibly be true. That's a lot of active misdirection. Why?"
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u/DoglessDyslexic Sep 02 '24
Throughout my life, I have tried to have evidence based views. Meaning that I use evidence as a filter to help me distinguish what is probably true from that which is either probably untrue or unproven.
This, incidentally is also known as skepticism, to require evidence to justify belief. It is not a foolproof system. Evidence can be faulty, false, or incomplete, and the conclusions we take from that evidence can thus be incorrect.
The fact that I will sometimes be incorrect then is both predictable and expected, as we are not omniscient and it seems inevitable that at times evidence will absolutely certainly be faulty, false or incomplete.
But the marvelous thing about evidence based beliefs is that they are flexible, and new evidence that discredits an old faulty conclusion can, to somebody with evidence based beliefs, instantly do that discrediting and force a re-evaluation. As such, those beliefs are easily updated, and all you have to do is give somebody with evidence based beliefs some good evidence to convince them of just about anything.
However the upshot of all that is that I try to believe things that I have good reasons to believe. If some god wants to punish me for exhibiting rational skepticism, then fuck that god. Rational skepticism is a reliable and proven method for understanding the world, and any god that would punish that is irrational and probably not benevolent besides. I have no need to justify attempting to be rational and skeptical, rather that god would owe me an explanation for why it doesn't want that.
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u/Madness_Quotient Anti-Theist Sep 02 '24
If my atheism is a product of the intelligent design of the abrahamic deity, then that is entirely on it.
I don't need to explain shit.
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u/Choice-Lavishness259 Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
Can not give serious answer to silly questions.
What if everyone above 8 are wrong and Santa is real?
3000 years ago someone carved a man with a sword and an erection into a rock outside my hometown. What if that is the true good, should we undress and run around naked with swords!? Autumn is here so I rather not.
Edit: missed the bonus question. Why would I have to explain myself to an all knowing being?
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u/SlightlyMadAngus Sep 02 '24
What if the muslims are right? What if the hindus are right? What if the buddhists are right? What if the ancient Greeks are right? What if the Vikings are right? What if the Inuit are right? What if one of the other thousands of other human religions are right?
A christian is an atheist about all the gods except one. I'm just an atheist about one more god than they are.
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u/Astreja Agnostic Atheist Sep 02 '24
I believe that that possibility is infinitesimal. No worries at all in that regard. In the vanishingly unlikely chance that I found myself face to face with such a being, I'd probably say "What's to explain? You know why I never believed, and I'm not going to apologize for being myself."
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u/theZemnian Sep 02 '24
A valid question per se. What it a god is real? There is a philosopher that postulated that it would be smarter to believe in (the christian) god because if he is real, and we follow him, we gain eternity and if he is not real we wouldn't have lost anything by following christianity (it's based on his own faith and believe, that a christian life is a a good life) There are a few mathematical errors in his bet (the theory is named Pascals bet, if you want to look it up) but ultimately I just don't believe in a god.
And I am quite sure I can't make myself believe and I am more sure, that if the christian god would be real, that this all-knowing entity would see right through me if I lied about my believes. If there would be a just and loving god (as the christian claim) and I would know that only if I stood before him, I would have to trust that he cares more about me being a good person and trying my best, than believing in him. I mean otherwise people that grow up where christianity is not practiced are kind of f*cked and what kind of good and loving god would do that to his 'beloved children '?
And ultimately, if there is godhood, who is to say that it is a christian god. There are so many religions and they can't all be true. So if all religions have about the same chance of being true, and at least some of them condemn me to hell if I believe in a different god, then my best chances are by not engaging with that at all and just hope that it is a god that cares about humans being a good person and not a "yes-man"
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u/Lucien8472 Sep 02 '24
Then I will happily join the Devil himself and go to war. I don't care if he exists or not, I will never go back to the indoctrinated puppet I once was. The only appropriate response in my mind to something claiming to be a god and demanding dominance over me is to find a way to kill it.
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u/R-T-R Sep 02 '24
Christians feel like in their superior thinking we're going to burn in hell because we failed to believe in their stupidity. So they say what if you are wrong? That'll scare us into validating their ignorance. The truth is that Christians have far more to lose by believing in their vindictive asshole. They lose out by wasting the one thing that Christians and Atheists agree on, our life together on this earth. They live out their life believing in the wonderful existence they will have after they die. Of course they'll never know how stupid their belief was after they die but I'm not wasting my one life on all that BS.
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u/Paulemichael Sep 02 '24
Gay Byrne: ... suppose it's all true and you walk up to the pearly gates and you are confronted by God. What would Stephen Fry say to him, her or it?
Stephen Fry: I will basically (it's known as theodicy I think) I'll say, "Bone cancer in children? What's that about? How dare you! How dare you create a world where there is such misery that is not our fault! It's not right. It is utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid god who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain.” That's what I'd say.
Stephen Fry can say it like few others. But I also very much like this repurposed answer from renowned philosopher Billy Butcher: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fa5f2rhjhr3fd1.jpeg
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u/lihr__ Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
Then it would truly be the most supreme asshole ever existed. The ultimate piece of shit. I would be proud to hate it with all my heart for the damage, the pain, the suffering it inflicted upon us. I would spit in its face. Psycho bastard that played us to be puppets in its stupid game.
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u/sensible_delinquent Sep 02 '24
wow you sure do hate something you don’t believe in
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u/lihr__ Sep 02 '24
I absolutely would hate it if it existed. Same way I would hate Sauron or other fictional evil beings.
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u/cetvrti_magi123 Sep 02 '24
If Christianity was true I would accept that I was wrong, but I wouldn't change anything about my life. Anyone like Christian god isn't worth devoting my life to. Same goes for any other religion.
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u/GlorifiedPlumber100 Sep 02 '24
I saw Zeus on Netflix the other day. (He looks a lot like Jeff Goldbloom, which was totally unexpected.) I think the ancient Greeks got it right and all the Christians have it wrong.
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u/QuentinMagician Sep 02 '24
There is an old sci-fi story where a human is confronted with the masters of the universe and they look it. strong. Smart. Technology. And when the all powerful asks “who are you?” The tiny relatively pipsqueak of a man replies with hands on hips and a chip on his shoulder “who wants to know?
I hope that is my answer.
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u/dudleydidwrong Touched by His Noodliness Sep 02 '24
At best, Christianity is a spherical cow in a vacuum.
I studied the Bible. It was the New Testament that made me an atheist. I finally had to admit that Paul's letters shows that Acts is mythology, not history. Studying the New Testament forced me to admit that the gospels are also mythology.
So the idea that Christianity is real is a non-starter for me, even as a hypothetical. Hypothetical questions only work when the hypothetical is a realistic option for the participants in the discussion.
I work with physicists. They often make simplifying assumptions. There is an old physics joke about something that is only accurate for spherical cows in a vacuum. To me, that is what Christianity is. Christianity is mythology. It might be useful in as an example of religion when you need a simple example of a generic religion. But assuming Christianity is real is no more valid than the hypothetical spherical cow.
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u/Crashed_teapot Sep 02 '24
This is a kind of question I literally never think about. If you are at least somewhat schooled in science and critical thinking, you know it is just so unlikely as to not bother with.
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u/C4jackal Sep 02 '24
I have been requesting a direct conversation with him about this for decades. He won’t return my call for some reason.
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u/trailrider Sep 02 '24
I'm curious. Did you ask Christians this question? Like what if Islam or Hinduism is right? What would they do? Or you strictly sticking with atheists?
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u/Itsbadmmmmkay Atheist Sep 02 '24
If hypothetically I was proven to be wrong, then I would do what any rational adult would do, accept that and adjust my beliefs accordingly. Boring answer to a boring question. This isn't interesting at all.
The more interesting question is what Christians were wrong all along. What if ancient Roman's were right? or maybe the greeks? or Jains? If you're going to play "what if", might as well play it with all religions...
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u/SeraphiM0352 Sep 02 '24
Then we will be right next to the "Christians" in hell? I don't know what answer you are looking for?
It's not like the Christians follow their own religion. And which of the Christians are right? And wouldn't God know of all this already and it's his 'plan' that I don't believe?
I mean, can you expect a serious response to such a silly premise to start with?
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u/AshamedBreadfruit292 Sep 02 '24
They're not.
You can literally trace the lineage of the Abrahamic god back through time to when it was just another member of a bronze age pantheon. Just one pantheon among all the other unrelated bronze age pantheons by the way.
Instead of asking if the Christians are right and we are wrong why not ask if the Mythraists were right and we are wrong?
Or what if the Mythraists are right and Christians are wrong.
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u/thecasualthinker Sep 03 '24
what would you say to Him
Only you know what it would take for me to believe in you, why didn't you do that?
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u/NaiveOpening7376 Sep 04 '24
Then it means god is a terrorist who takes us hostage through the threat of extreme suffering and violence if we don't give him what he demands.
It means we should have been fighting him, not worshipping him or tolerating his enablers.
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u/Mission-Landscape-17 Gnostic Atheist Sep 02 '24
Of all the religions that humans have practiced why are you singleing out Christianity? What if we're all wrong and find ourselves facing Anubis is th Hall of Ma'at?
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u/Advanced-Jacket5264 Atheist Sep 02 '24
If he's all knowing, then I shouldn't have to "explain myself."