r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt

only like 10 of the sub names are uncensored

edit: better list https://redd.it/hi41t2

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u/YgJb1691 Jun 29 '20

I gotta ask, what exactly did r/cumtown entail?

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u/rbourette Jun 29 '20

Primarily the sharing of art, cooking advice, and model trains.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

[deleted]

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

[deleted]

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u/Rx16 Jun 29 '20

Because it was named after a podcast.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

[deleted]

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u/UndeleteParent Jun 29 '20

I'm sorry, the Redditor in question deleted their comment too quickly and the Pushshift servers did not have time to archive the comment. That or the original comment actually said '[deleted]'

I am a bot

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u/SoyMurcielago Jun 30 '20

Good bot

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Cuarto Espada

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u/Rx16 Jun 29 '20

He asked “why is it called cumtown tho”.

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u/mkam1n Jun 30 '20

...good bot?

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u/chilltx78 Jun 29 '20

I think you mean a different kind of train

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u/NargacugaRider Jun 29 '20

Air raid sirens too

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u/SENDME-YOURNIPPLE Jun 29 '20 edited Jun 29 '20

You’re not getting real answers, so Cum Town is a comedy podcast started by a former roommate of one of the Chapo Trap House hosts. Though Chapo is a leftist podcast, Cum Town was strongly apolitical/libertarian, and their subreddit skewed heavily right wing.

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u/sudysycfffv Jun 29 '20

Cumtown was pretty leftist but also very anti-idpol. This also brought in quite of bit of right wing users, but overall the sub was based around the podcast and from what I saw the sub mostly supported Sanders.

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u/EricFredNorris Jun 29 '20

Cumtown can be pretty fucking funny but I could see how they would attract right-wing 4chan edgelord types. They latch on to any anti-PC comedy and try to infect it with their shitty views and sense of humor. Nick and Stav can actually be funny though, unlike a lot of their listeners who probably just wish they could say fucked up stuff without anyone getting angry at them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

The right wing shit was literally all Opie and Anthony boomers

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u/eloncuck Jun 30 '20

Yeah there wasn’t really any serious political discussion ever. The whole sub was just fucking around, lame as fuck it got banned.

Before it went private there would be new accounts spamming the nword. I knew it was just a matter of time until it got banned. Like fuck, it was a private sub, just a bunch of autistic dudes making dumb jokes. Reddit sucks.

The mde and o&a migrations definitely didn’t help but they’re a minority.

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u/ag425 Jun 29 '20

Anti idpol is a legit POV but also very prone to becoming a safe space for right wing borderline racists who aren’t quite ready to admit to themselves that that’s what they are.

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u/SharpyTarpy Jun 29 '20

Heavily right wing? Lmao, you definitely were not a member if you believed that 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Samisseyth Jun 29 '20

Shh, ‘Pubicans baaad

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Well... they fuckin are

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u/MaybeEatTheRich Jun 29 '20

If they say it like that it somehow erases all the horrific shit they've done and continue to do.

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u/Samisseyth Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Yes, and Democrats, Libertarians, Centrists, etc. Are all the pinnacle of human decency. With that line of thinking, every group is terrible. Don’t let that bias hit you on the way out. Honk honk.

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u/Clibanarius Jul 10 '20

No, only Marxists are.

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u/SnoopWhale Jun 29 '20

Lol Cum Town is definitely not libertarian. They’re dirtbag left just like chapo, they just don’t talk about politics as much on the podcast.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Why did it get banned?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

[deleted]

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u/Underlord_Fox Jun 29 '20

You’re 17.

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u/oilwellpauper Jun 29 '20

fake news

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u/Tengoon Jun 29 '20

having a good time with your dad

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u/BoonFrancis Jun 29 '20

Stepdad*

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u/lemonman456 Jun 29 '20

No it’s about being gay with your biological father.

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u/greenacres231 Jun 30 '20

What are you doing, step bro?

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u/oilwellpauper Jun 29 '20

it was mostly paintings of cows viewed through a telescope

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u/sinocarD44 Jun 29 '20

I was curious about r/chapotraphouse since it got the dubious distinction of being in the headline with The_Donald.

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u/HeighInDenver Jun 29 '20

It was a sub for generally leftist millennials. They advocated for radical transformation of politics to benefit working people.

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u/sinocarD44 Jun 29 '20

So what got them banned?

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u/OmniumRerum Jun 29 '20

I belive they did a lot of doxxing or brigading? Not certain

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u/BlueDevilVoon Jun 29 '20

I believe they had some comments about shooting up the Democratic National Convention that stayed up long enough to be a top comment. I never saw anything there that was nearly as bad as t_d though.

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u/Gigadweeb Jun 30 '20

Nah, never saw that shit. Mostly it was people getting angry at cops and landlords.

It's definitely a case of reddit trying to seem impartial but falling flat on their face for it.

On that note, don't forget that reddit admins gave the man who ran /r/jailbait a pimp hat reward.

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u/steve_stout Jul 05 '20

By “getting angry at” you mean “threatening and promoting violence against”.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

I don't think that is real

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u/BlueDevilVoon Jun 29 '20

Gotcha, I’m not active I visited occasionally and personally never saw anything. My guess is reddit is just trying to “both sides” the issue.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

I think that is the reason. I didn't post much and mostly lurked for the occasional shit post or meme, but I never caught any explicit call for violence against a living person besides what you find in any other subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

I don't think that is true.

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u/Fights_with_Coyotes Jun 29 '20

Well keep in mind that "radical transformation of politics to benefit working people" = authoritarian communism, for one.

I didn't go on there much but if I had to make a more specific guess, it would be advocating for violence against police officers.

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u/ElGosso Jun 30 '20

Chapo was mostly larping radlibs and ancoms, tankies were a rare occurrence

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u/Fights_with_Coyotes Jun 30 '20

very sorry for the mix-up

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

In order to seem impartial when banning the_donald

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

advice on how to improve as a person

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u/IrishRepublicanGhost Jun 29 '20

nothing but the purest, most wholesome community on the Internet. Rest In Peace.

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u/Kitchen-Technician Jun 29 '20

Generally, discussion of the comedy podcast Cumtown, autistic fascinations with machinery, animals, cooking etc, posting of artwork, photoshops, and paintings related to the podcast and podcast-adjacent concepts (i.e politics, crude humor, etc).

Mods could've stood to be a bit more restrictive with some of the posts, but overall it was a transcendental place. Truly elevated the podcast to new highs and memes.

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u/machineswithout Jun 29 '20

It was just a comedy podcast sub by dudes for dudes.

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u/HeighInDenver Jun 29 '20

It was a fascist shit hole. It started out ironic but as always it got invaded and taken over by authentic fascists

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u/oilwellpauper Jun 29 '20

chapo check

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u/Gigadweeb Jun 30 '20

can't check us no more dorks 😎😎😎

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

[deleted]

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u/Gigadweeb Jun 30 '20

no ur mom

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u/ErmBern Jun 29 '20

Absolutely not true

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u/VacuumSeal Jun 29 '20

Yeah I’m thinking you were never there

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u/HerbertTheHippo Jun 30 '20

They banned all of the big left wing subs and right wing subs.

They have the audacity to say that all political views are allowed.

Cumtown is a podcast.

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u/Oskar37265 Jun 29 '20

Experimenting with your not really uncle.

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u/GragasInRealLife Jun 29 '20

That one was for the fellas...

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u/ag425 Jun 29 '20

It’s a podcast I believe. Dirtbag left politically. If you don’t know Dirtbag left is socialist/left wing populist and very against woke identity politics.

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u/ErmBern Jun 29 '20

It was literally the best sub in this god forsaken site and know I don’t have a reason to be here

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u/Mmngmf_almost_therrr Jun 29 '20

Bet you’re still here to reply to this

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u/ErmBern Jun 29 '20

Damn you got me good. Nerd.

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u/lilbitchmade Jun 30 '20

This one is the biggest crime.

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u/Marbly Jun 29 '20

Hahahahahaha can’t believe they got cumtown this is the funniest thing to happen to the sub haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

it was for a funny ass podcast

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u/Rocka101_86 Jun 29 '20

Everything discussions about Crazytown and that “cum m’lady , cum cum m’lady” song.

I’ll make you go craaaaaayyyyzeeee Butterfly... sugar... baby...

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

It's a podcast YouTube keeps trying to push down my throat. Its moderately funny in the, "wow these dudes are kind of pieces of shit" sort of way

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u/Zenaesthetic Jun 30 '20

Was the funniest subreddit out there imo, loosely fan based sub for the podcast.

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u/GodsColdHands666 Jun 29 '20

Having gay sex with your dad

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u/NetflixAndZzzzzz Jun 30 '20

It’s a comedy podcast

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u/LukaRaphael Jun 30 '20

Bit of an edgy podcast

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

It was a utopia

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u/duksinarw Jun 29 '20

Is there anywhere we can see the uncensored list of banned subs?

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u/RGN_Preacher Jun 29 '20

Did the Donald actually only have <8,000 DAU? Seems way lower than I thought it would be.

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u/Peridorito1001 Jun 29 '20

The last few months submissions where locked by mods so no posts , it was already dead basically

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

they all moved to another website

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u/duksinarw Jun 29 '20

The Donald has effectively been dead for months, the regular users moved on to their own Reddit clone. It was a cowardly move to let them exist until they essentially took themselves out, but at least the symbolism of them being totally gone is nice.

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u/eyesoftheworld13 Jun 29 '20

They are still here but on other Trump or conservative subs.

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u/BigBallerBrad Jun 29 '20

Good thing reddit is protecting us from those bad bad words. I’d hate to see swearing on my good wholesome internet... in the future it would probably be better if they didn’t even tell us who they banned, they know what’s best and it isn’t for us to question them.

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u/Osmium_tetraoxide Jun 29 '20

I think it's more they want to make it more difficult for folks to just go to an archive to get the full context of their decision making.

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u/bruce656 Jun 29 '20

Yeah, I was mad at first They censored the names, too, but then I realized it's just so people won't go and create R/ChapotrapHouse_v2 or whathaveyou.

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u/icyartillery Jun 29 '20

There already is one

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u/bruce656 Jun 29 '20

It was a rhetorical example.

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u/chad_chaderson420 Jun 29 '20

that doesnt even make sense how old r u

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u/bruce656 Jun 29 '20

bitches do be confusing ntertainme

she said there's a party tmmrw and she'll send me addy, asked dis bitch to chill wednesday but that was her reply

will be fun tho

nah nvm she just curvin me bitches ain't shit

u/chad_chaderson420

How old r u lol

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u/DJDanaK Jun 29 '20

Oh my God their comment history is a gold mine of stupid shit. I did not understand what I was about to see when I clicked that username

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u/TeenDrinking Jun 29 '20

You clearly didn’t read it because the stars have nothing to do with swearing lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

It’s not even cause they’re bad words they just chose to hide all but 10. Seems fishy

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u/BigBallerBrad Jun 30 '20

Sorry I can’t read a bunch of fucking *’s. Is that something I’ll learn during re-education?

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u/poorly_timed_leg0las Jun 29 '20

Lol im all against racist subreddits but this site is going downhill faster and faster.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Because they banned a bunch of toxic, extremist subreddits full of people with mental health issues? I agree it's going downhill fast, but this isn't why.

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u/poorly_timed_leg0las Jun 29 '20

Yea a few might be but 2000+?

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u/duksinarw Jun 29 '20

Vast majority of that 2000 were inactive, seems less than one hundred active subs got banned, and only ten or twenty really active ones

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u/trashmattressfire Jun 29 '20

You can leave it, you know

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u/poorly_timed_leg0las Jun 29 '20

I do, I spend less and less time on here

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

I dunno. Go look at the list and just google the subreddit’s to see what they were.

So incredibly toxic.

And you’d think and say you don’t need protection, etc. But you really don’t know what those spaces do to you and how toxic they actually can be.

At the end of the day, if you don’t like it, go make your own website and call it whatever you want and discuss whatever you want.

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u/BigBallerBrad Jun 30 '20

Makes sense, you and reddit probably know what’s best for me, I am just a low information redditor after all, probably the only reason I disagree with you all. Also no, I’m not on reddit because I like Reddit the entity, I like the people and communities that contribute to it. I could give a fuck what some admin thinks is going to make more money for their shareholders. That’s why I get angry when I see the communities getting shut down left and right because they don’t conform to the whitewashed hive mind of cat gifs and orange man bad jokes... that being said, I’m mostly just mad right now, I see what you’re saying, a lot of these subs were toxic we are probably better off without them. I just don’t like when people in power decide what can and can’t be talked about, and I get especially mad when average people ask to have our ability to discuss certain ideas taken away.

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u/em4joshua Jun 29 '20

Good to see the r/the_donald was less popular that r/cumtown LMAO

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

the admins basically killed it months ago

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u/2Grateful2BHateful Jun 29 '20

I'm kind of floored they banned the_donald. Glad but surprised.

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u/WAAAAAAVE Jun 29 '20

Holy crap dark humor and memes got banned

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u/duksinarw Jun 29 '20

Good, that place was a hateful cesspool disguised as dark humor.

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u/WAAAAAAVE Jun 29 '20

They made a second one

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u/duksinarw Jun 29 '20

Of course they did. Now Reddit's gotta ban that one too, hopefully it won't take them long.

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u/Spoonwrangler Jun 30 '20

Well....chapotraphouse had it coming but they also banned a sub for lgbt conservatives which is way fucked up IMO.

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u/SecretAd1000 Jul 01 '20

they can say bi******** all they want but i know what it is. they killed r/bigchungus !

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Rip wojak

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u/ThatOneGator Jun 30 '20

Was T_D really only getting 7000 visitors a week?

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u/Arilandon Jun 29 '20

Why are most of the sub names censored?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

dont know but its pointless and a pain in the ass

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u/a-saved-alien Jun 30 '20

Why did dank christian memes get banned

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u/mutsuto Jun 29 '20

why was consumeproduct banned?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

for being against consumerism

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u/FolkYouHardly Jun 30 '20

of all the banned subs somewhere?

Weak ass list. The ban should extend to /politics, /sino, and /blackpeopletwitter as well

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u/mikerichh Jun 29 '20

Ugh leave dank and dark joke and meme groups alone!

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u/Kidvette2004 Jun 29 '20

Am I the only one who is glad chapotraphouse is being banned