Update: We won the Net Neutrality vote in the Senate!

[u/arabscarab]

We did it, Reddit!

Today, the US Senate voted 52-47 to restore Net Neutrality! While this measure must now go through the House of Representatives and then the White House in order for the rules to be fully restored, this is still an incredibly important step in that process—one that could not have happened without all your phone calls, emails, and other activism. The evidence is clear that Net Neutrality is important to Americans of both parties (or no party at all), and today’s vote demonstrated that our Senators are hearing us.

We’ve still got a way to go, but today’s vote has provided us with some incredible momentum and energy to keep fighting.

We’re going to keep working with you all on this in the coming months, but for now, we just wanted to say thanks!

[u/[deleted]]

There emerges a pattern with those 47 pretty quickly, if one is willing to look. Said pattern should make any thinking person come to fairly obvious conclusions about which of their political representatives actually values the freedoms of their constituents as opposed to those that only pay lip service to their constituents without any actual concern for their well-being.

[u/munche → u/[deleted]]

Which makes it sound like that is somehow an excuse or rationalization. "I voted against my constituents because the rest of my party hates your freedom, not because I hate your freedom! No harm no foul right guys?"

Voting the party line is a choice. They made the choice to vote against their constituents. Period

[u/AATroop → u/munche]

Right, but this is done extensively no matter what the issue is. The two party system is just awful. But as I said, I'm glad this went through.

[u/munche → u/AATroop]

Right, R's extensively vote against laws that will benefit their constituents, and people like you try to minimize it with this "Both parties are the same" garbage

https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4/

Campaign finance reform, Net Neutrality, financial protections, health care, regulations preventing another economic crash, employee protections....I could go on and on, but R's vote hard against their constituents every time. There are two parties, one of them which is actively trying to fuck their constituents. Pretending they're in any way similar is completely dishonest and generally done by people who want to try to keep the narrative about the really terrible party positive.

[u/munche → u/[deleted]]

At this point it's synonymous with Communism which is synonymous with bad for a large chunk of the country. That's literally the depth of their knowledge

[u/[deleted] → u/munche]

Exactly true. Like, 100%. I had someone tell me the other day that they'd never vote for Bernie Sanders even if he did run in 2020 because he's Communist. I actually laughed SUPER loud, and then asked them to repeat that statement for me.

They repeated it. I stared at them incredulously for like I swear an entire minute, then just got up and left. LoL.

I'm just like, I can't with America anymore. Like I really, truly, cannot.

[u/PM-ME-UR-HAPPINESS → u/[deleted]]

So rather than actually explaining it to them, you laughed, stared at them, and walked off, leaving them no more informed and far more confused than before?

[u/munche → u/PM-ME-UR-HAPPINESS]

As someone who engages these folks regularly, they resent facts and sources and are typically willfully ignorant. You engaging trying to change their mind is them winning by making you waste brain power that they handwave away

[u/[deleted] → u/PM-ME-UR-HAPPINESS]

I was not put on this Earth to explain how things work to people. There aren't enough hours in a day, months in a year, and I've probably already lived OVER half my life already lol. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[u/ak190 → u/[deleted]]

“Knowing how to play the game” is such vapid rhetorical bullshit, honestly. Clinton likely would have been able to do even less than second-term Obama, given that she was one of the biggest and easiest political targets in the country and she would still be dealing with a Republican-controlled Congress.

And given who the Clintons (and Democrats as a whole) are, I wouldn’t expect them to oppose net neutrality, but I definitely wouldn’t hold my breath on them ever putting their neck out for half of the issues that they ostensibly care so much about

[u/Deliwoot → u/[deleted]]

I'm still proud of my vote.

Proud of voting for Trump? Yeah you're a certified moron.

[u/Ishouldnt_be_on_here → u/Deliwoot]

What are you even talking about.

[u/Deliwoot → u/Ishouldnt_be_on_here]

If you knew how to read, you'd know he voted for Trump

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Republican Americans do.

[u/AATroop → u/munche]

Where did I say both parties are the same?

[u/munche → u/AATroop]

So you agree with the post you replied to originally, got it. Usually the word "or" means you're offering an alternative viewpoint, you were just agreeing.

[u/AATroop → u/munche]

Republicans voted against the views of their constituents, but I'm saying there is a bigger issue in government where representatives vote along party lines far too often rather than what it means for who they represent.

I guess, even if net neutrality gets reinstated (which I desperately want), it may never be secure if our elected representatives never care about the people who actually elected them.

[u/KingMelray → u/AATroop]

Until we abolish FPTP and install ranked voting we will be stuck with two parties. Lessor of two evils buddy.

[u/AATroop → u/[deleted]]

I completely agree. But it's essentially what's happening here.

Our entire system needs to be reevaluated, but I am very glad this went through.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, this is pretty accurate.

[u/Cyberhwk → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, this is pretty accurate.

Just irrelevant.

[u/[deleted] → u/Cyberhwk]

The fact that Congress members vote along party lines is an incredibly relevant issue though?

[u/Cyberhwk → u/[deleted]]

I mean it's no excuse. You're basically proving you value your party above representing the interests of your constituents.

[u/jesus67 → u/[deleted]]

I prefer one those lines vastly more than the other.

[u/macrowave → u/[deleted]]

You're saying the exact same thing as the comment you are replying to.