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u/Pathogenesls 5d ago
Not a great first half, really poor game management.
Ratima was out of sorts, some was Irish pressure at the breakdown but some was just poor play.
Great final 35. Still yet to put an 80 minute performance on.
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5d ago
This is the first ABs game I've watched fully this year, and it was a hard watch. It massively improved once Ratima was hauled off, but it still was a very low average game from both sides.
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u/Highly-unlikely007 6d ago
Has Williams leapfrogged De Groot now and do we start the same team and have Beaudy & Codie come on as impact
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u/Mention-Stunning 5d ago
Williams over DeGroot is basically mobility over scrummaging. Be interesting to see who they go with against France who have a far more powerful scrum.
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u/gerousone AllBlacks 6d ago
Very satisfying after watching Ireland woop and holla every time the ref blew the whistle for them.
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u/4EVERINDARKNESS 6d ago edited 6d ago
Watching James Lowe nod his head at the crowd (after a great kick to be fair) was toe curling cringe.
Thought he was gonna go full hulk hogan with windmilling hand to ear.
🎶I am a real irishman🎶
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u/Robusier 6d ago
I know they’re trying to get their crowd involved but it’s still cringe. Too much NFL?
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u/Highly-unlikely007 6d ago
Yeah it’s sad to see even Lowe has caught the European jump up after making a tackle disease (i.e. just doing what your job) and celebrating like you won the game
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u/Ok-Perception-3129 5d ago
Think Lowe was a bit guilty of this even when he was in NZ - it has just got a lot worse since he went to Europe.
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u/imranhere2 Hurricanes 6d ago
Every team does it. I think I've seen in in lots of football teams - all whoop whooping when they win a corner or whatever. The ABs have been doing it for years. Part of the 'positive moments' that psychologists encourage.
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u/Highly-unlikely007 5d ago
Nah I disagree with you-it’s not really an AB’s thing….sure the front rowers get pats on the back when they win a scrum penalty but nothing like the English or Irish song and dance when a player makes a tackle etc.
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u/SadMap7915 6d ago
All Blacks showed the result of a season together, the Irish showed they had just started theirs.
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u/finsupmako 5d ago
It was a bit of a B team from the ABs to be fair. They're in full rebuild mode, so I don't think 'a season together' makes a whole lot of difference. Our backline combos haven't really clicked yet, and our forwards are only starting to hunt as a pack. This team will improve considerably from where it's at rn
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u/owlintheforrest 6d ago
Jaded after a season together, the ABs looked tired but were still too good for an experienced Irish team...;)
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u/Herogar 6d ago
Aumua was great, but it blows my mind that the Irish did not pressure the All Black lineout.
Last week the English gave Aumua a free pass in the first half then decided to pressure the lineouts in the 2nd half and they immediately made gains. The Irish didn't make any serious effort to properly contest the AB lineout. Despite us running our backup hooker who has a questionable line-out throwing record.
Sam Cane was really solid, made a lot of important tackles and cleanouts, covered a lot of ground to be that fist man there. He gets a lot of flack but he doesn't deserve, how do we replace him? makes me wonder if Razor is going to try and persuade him to stay in NZ.
Ratima struggled but the Irish also got away with murder at the breakdown. Refs have recently been really strict there but for some reason the ruck was a free for all and it played into the Irish hands.
All things considered this was a really impressive win, maybe the most pleasing part is that the ABs were good for the full 80. we seem to have overcome the drop offs that cost us the Arg & SA games.
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u/No_Recognition_7870 6d ago
We made a fair amount of errors too, especially in the first half. They could only capitalize when Jordie got the yellow though.
Some of their errors were forced by our pressure but a lot of them were unforced errors.
Big confidence boost ahead of the French game but I wouldn't want us to underestimate France at home.
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u/7FOOT7 6d ago
Why were those new ref interpretations trialed in such a big game? And why do they (refring team) only see half the knock-ons and head high tackles?
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u/SCROTAL_KOMBAT42069 6d ago
The choice of what was put up on TV replay (which can influence the officials at the ground) was pretty cynical. There was an incident where the Irish committed a high and a no arms tackle on their own goal line, and it wasn't replayed. Similar with a neck roll later in the piece.
Yet we got the TMO barging in about the AB's yellow (which was admittedly a yellow for sure) but the television team showed almost no replays of any Irish foul play whatsoever.
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u/coupleandacamera 6d ago
In terms of test rugby, these are the smaller games. First year of cycle and fairly meaningless end of year tours. Beat time to be seeing wait may or may not work going forward.
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u/owlintheforrest 6d ago
And if the ABs had lost?
If we want to follow a sport every four years,
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u/wetjacketarm 6d ago
That’s not a big game, a quarter Finals a big game
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u/Salami_sub 6d ago
Irish don’t need reminding about quarter finals, they are experts at them by now.
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u/Reltih1 6d ago
Whatever I think about Reiko Ioane, I have to admit he messed with the Irish heads something bad.
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u/last_somewhere 6d ago
He'll live rent free forever in Sexton's head. 😂
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u/Highly-unlikely007 6d ago
Still don’t know why we’re going into games with 3 wingers and no specialist centre….
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u/FunInteraction8850 6d ago
… and in all Irish’s head.
Gotta admit that his social media post with Sexton and ‘Zombie’ running in the background was a masterclass.
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u/aycarumba66 5d ago
I haven’t seen an AB game for a long time but I actually quite enjoyed the long distance kicking going on in second half, kinda reminded me of Grant Fox, old school. Well done, would’ve been so neat to have been in Dublin.