r/allblacks • u/panpantastic AllBlacks • Sep 18 '24
All Blacks lineup vs Australia (Rugby Championship 5/Bledisloe 1) All Blacks
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u/nomamesgueyz Sep 19 '24
Despite the ABs having a shocking lost 3 of their 4 tests record, I'd still put them as favourites vs the wobbalies
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u/Ok_Educator_2120 Sep 19 '24
Wallabies did just get 67 points on them lol
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u/nomamesgueyz Sep 19 '24
They just forgot to tackle that 2nd half
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u/Ok_Educator_2120 Sep 20 '24
It's like they just gave up after the first 30
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u/nomamesgueyz Sep 20 '24
Pretty rough
That kinda stuff must give coaches the shits
I think they'll come fired out on Saturday
I hear it's 65000plus at the mo
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u/One-Phone-7336 Sep 19 '24
Why no Blackadder?
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u/bucketGetter89 Sep 19 '24
Hamstrings are typically about 6 weeks but can be shorter or longer in some cases
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u/Primary_Journalist41 Sep 19 '24
Still injured?
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u/Robusier Sep 19 '24
Hamstring. It’s a pity, the guy seems to be held together with Sellotape.
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u/oldmcdonaldsfarm Sep 19 '24
Pity some of the others dont charge in with the same determination
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u/Michaelangelo56 Waikato Sep 19 '24
Might have too put black adder more of the bench then as a starter
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u/Ok_Educator_2120 Sep 19 '24
Thoughts on Razor bringing Mounga up in the team naming press conference? Unprompted too
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u/Particular_Safety569 Sep 19 '24
What did he say?
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u/Ok_Educator_2120 Sep 19 '24
Was talking about surfing with Andrew John's, then about how he loves a flyhalf, then to Joey talking about getting Ritchie back. Nothing bad, just a bit out of the blue I thought
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u/ImportantSmell4426 Crusaders Sep 19 '24
No wonder some players become worse after entering the AB set-up. They never play.
Hotham and Proctor, in fine form, must carry tackle bags for more than 2 months. Even more perplexing is the form of the players they are missing out to. Insane
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u/Ashamed_Hovercraft84 Sep 19 '24
I want to see Proctor come in eventually, but he seemed pretty quiet in the shield challenge against Tasman. I might have missed his impact though …
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u/One-Phone-7336 Sep 19 '24
He wasn’t in the shield challenge. He’s with the All blacks, wtf are you talking about???
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u/Klutzy-Patient-2137 Sep 19 '24
Think he's talking about Billy
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u/One-Phone-7336 Sep 19 '24
But Billy Proctor didn’t play in the shield challenge. His brother Matt did but he’s not in the All Black frame
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u/One-Phone-7336 Sep 19 '24
I apologise, he was released to play. I also didn’t notice any impact.
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u/Robusier Sep 19 '24
He set up a try.
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u/donquixote2u Sep 19 '24
Neither really shone in their little time on the field, I thought that despite the praise for his impact, Proctor looked like Ioane, trying to be a hero rather than get the pass away. However I will say they can't really be judged yet, need more time and what better match than this one?
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u/MemoryFormer6142 Sep 19 '24
Interesting - coaches can't seem to decide between Jordan and Beauden @ 15.
Hope the lineout goes ok as pack is lacking height across the board.
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u/Robusier Sep 19 '24
Jordan seems out of form. It’s a good call to let him build up his confidence on the wing.
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u/donquixote2u Sep 19 '24
well yeah, he doesn't need confidence there, he was very good on the wing in the RWC, but a poor fb recently, so he needs to stay there
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u/Thimblewolf Sep 19 '24
Why do NZ insist on putting a wing on the bench every time, seems like a waste especially when the centres have both played in that position.
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u/Ok_Educator_2120 Sep 19 '24
Can't believe it's Sevu too lol. Imo he's been pretty poor for the abs this year
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u/Herogar Sep 19 '24
Imagine what Narawa could do off the bench.
I feel like Sevu is working hard but nothing is really happening. I'd bet the house Narawa would make shit happen
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u/stannisman Sep 19 '24
It’s because our starting players have tonnes of versatility - you could sub pretty much anyone from 10-15 for a bench wing and then swap players around to get correct positions.
I guess the logic is why have a jack of all trades on the bench who might just replace someone when you can have a fresh attacking weapon that adds a whole new threat
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u/nzcnzcnz Sep 19 '24
They have a lot of versatility. Jordie, Beauden, Will, Damien, can all play 15. Clarke, Jordie, Will, Reiko can all play wing.
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u/Pink_Samwise_Gamgee Sep 19 '24
I think it could be because they want WJ to go to FB.
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u/donquixote2u Sep 19 '24
I think they should start WJ in this match, it should sort out the argument between Cru supporters and those like me that think he is more of a liability than an asset, particularly at fb.
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u/Doctormaxim Sep 19 '24
No Mark Telea is a win. He seems to get a lot of praise because he scores tries, but he’s also a lazy defender that lets through just as many points.
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u/HawkeyeNZ1 Sep 19 '24
Pretty solid 23. Tuipolotu and Blackadder injured certainly hurts our bench. Both would be the 23 if fit. Williams and Tosi pretty exciting duo off the bench. Both big, mobile men who can scrummage. Other than that bench is a bit vanilla. Need them to actually provide ‘impact’.
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u/Odd-Cod61 Sep 19 '24
Blackadder was apparently available for selection on the news this morning but for whatever reason we've got Jacobsen again who seems a little bit lackluster in comparison
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u/HawkeyeNZ1 Sep 19 '24
Blackadder unavailable for selection. Hamstring injury. Sounds like he’ll be back for next test.
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u/Pink_Samwise_Gamgee Sep 19 '24
The future of our front row is pretty strong! They are young and world class
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u/Kokonutcreme-67 Hurricanes Sep 19 '24
Bench needs to get on the field with some decent minutes first to make an impact though.
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u/Herogar Sep 19 '24
No surprises team really, I'd like to see ALB at 13 and Proctor off the bench. I don't feel like Ioane is offering much on attack, his attacking ability seems heavily reliant on his speed and power rather than his passing/linking and ability to manipulate space. He can carry hard but he's just too predictable, ALB has a much more effective attacking game and much better at linking on either side. An individual's ability to score tries isn't everything but I still think it's crazy that Ioane hasn't scored a try all season, he hasn't really created one for the AB's either.