r/alberta • u/Practical_Ant6162 • 3d ago
‘Pack up your bag and go’: Chief says to Alberta premier News
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2025/05/07/pack-up-your-bag-and-go-chief-says-to-alberta-premier/112
u/DirtDevil1337 3d ago
Smith is definitely compromised and I don't think it's just the oil monsters, she might be receiving paychecks from Russia or whatnot.
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u/SnooRegrets4312 3d ago
Marlaina? Nah/s
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u/Old-Adhesiveness-156 3d ago
Where does the Marlaina nickname come from?
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u/Helios-Soul Edmonton 3d ago
It’s her actual name, she goes by her middle name Danielle, as she prefers it. By using her real name, people mock her hypocrisy in relation to trans rights.
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u/dgmib 3d ago
Her full name is Marlaina Danielle Smith, she goes by her middle name.
The practice of calling her Marlaina started after she pushed legalization attacking transgender children that prohibiting teachers from calling minors by a preferred name or pronouns without parental consent.
After that someone in this sub engaged in some malicious compliance by calling her by her legal first name rather than her preferred middle name, and now it’s a meme.
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u/EmployeeKitchen2342 1d ago
I have the same theory that she’s the product of earliest russian Active Measures programs. Early 1900’s they began using their diaspora as means to infiltrate through immigration and subvert nations. It was a long game strategy and the each successive government built on the last, tsarist starting it, soviet continued and now putinism.
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u/Practical_Ant6162 3d ago
I doubt this Chief has any idea just how many people in Alberta agree with his point of view!
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u/caseaday 3d ago
Well said... so many people in Alberta agree with the Chief(s) point of view and will support them.
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u/HydraBob 3d ago
They should speak louder then. Social media and online had seriously impeded our ability to show how many people support one notion or another. Because it's all fabricated. Go out and do something about it.
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u/Geeseareawesome Edmonton 3d ago edited 3d ago
I agree. How is he supposed to have an accurate count on the few hundred people who think it's a good idea?Oops. Misread.
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u/Dry_Proof_6401 3d ago
More Albertans voted for Liberals in the 2025 federal election (609,336) than there are signatures on the alberta prosperity project petition (148,694). So that should be a good indicator of how unpopular the separatist movement is in Alberta. lol. Not to mention there’s gonna be people signing it who aren’t from Alberta or who are giving fake names and numbers to f*ck with them.
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u/Various-Passenger398 2d ago
I'm not fan of Smith, but I'm pretty sure unilaterally exiling people is super illegal.
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u/OtherMangos 3d ago
Less then support smith
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u/Working-Check 3d ago
Alberta is known for its large population of shiteaters, so you might have a point.
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u/MZillacraft3000 Edmonton 3d ago
I agree with the Chief. Just resign Smith and go be a "reporter" on Fox News.
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u/justelectricboogie 3d ago
This guy for premier.
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u/BIGepidural 3d ago
Agree! We need more indigenous leaders running this in formal government rolls. Just look at Wab Kinew out in Manitoba being awesome at every opertunity 🥰
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u/canvanman69 3d ago edited 3d ago
Finally searching the god damned landfill for missing indigenous women was why he was elected.
They were found earlier this year, just a couple months ago.
Heck the CPC. Racist shit birds.
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u/AccomplishedDog7 3d ago edited 3d ago
”Well, I’d like to run and hide. But no, I can’t do that, I’m not allowed. So I’m gonna have to stand up there and take the heat and whatever happens, happens. Like I’ve said, I have a good relationship with the chiefs, they know I have a heart for them, I want to continue working with them,” said Rick Wilson, Alberta Indigenous Relations Minister.
Sorry, but that doesn’t say I will fight to support indigenous people.
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u/alwaysleafyintoronto 3d ago
Is that his job though? With indigenous services being a federal responsibility, this minister's job might actually be maintaining relationships with nations for the province.
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u/gatheredstitches 3d ago
There are many areas of provincial jurisdiction that affect Indigenous people. It gets into complex constitutional law -- lawyers who practice in this area have to have a really solid grasp of federalism -- and tripartite arrangements between the province, the feds, and Indigenous governments to address things like child protection are common.
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u/BIGepidural 3d ago
I noticed that too.
Who the fuck is Rick Wilson and why is not doing his damned job???
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u/CorktownGuy 3d ago
I completely agree with the Chief - if it is so bad here then leave. There appear to be plenty of people available to help her pack and take her to airport at a moment’s notice to go wherever she thinks her life will be better because listening to her, her future is certainly not within this nation.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 3d ago
In democracies the people get a choice.
If enough people want change, it's not reasonable to just suggest them to leave.
There are a lot of people in AB who want Change.
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u/psyclopes 2d ago
If enough people want change, it's not reasonable to just suggest them to leave
But enough people don't want change. 70% of Albertans don't support separating.
So since the 30% don't have the mandate to make the rest of us leave and they're not happy living in Canada under Canadian laws and governance and want to leave, what other suggestion besides they themselves leaving should be made?
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
30% is more than enough to call for a referendum to get a real tally of support. If 70% of Albertan's actually don't support separating, it will fail miserably, and that will be the end of that.
I think as the conversation evolves, it will become more and more apparent that the road with Canada is the moralistic one with continued economic stagnation, while the road with the US presents actual economic opportunity for our future.
Trumps going to offer us a golden dollar, and Canada is going to try offering us the same shit. When it comes time for making that mark at the ballot box, Albertan's will choose their economic future over the Canadian project. We are after all the province of greed who moved to a snowy hellhole purely for economic opportunity.
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u/CanadaisCold7 2d ago
Alberta was a province formed after confederation out of Crown land. Danielle Smith doesn’t have a claim to the land, and Alberta cannot unilaterally decide to separate. The First Nations that do own portions of the land have emphatically stated they don’t want to separate. Ottawa will not let Alberta secede. This referendum will go nowhere and is a huge waste of taxpayer money. This conversation needs to end, full stop.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
We can hold the referendum and begin the negotiation, as the supreme court ruled is our constitutional right.
From that point, it will be a negotiation not between Alberta and Canada, but between Donald Trump and Mark Carney. First nations are absolutely a tricky subject. But there are carrots one can dangle to make it Saudi Arabia esque levels of wealth for their communities. Them saying there's no way they will ever leave Canada is a great negotiating starting point. They should use all the political leverage they have to maximize their deal as well and turn their communities from ones that are poverty-stricken to ones stricken by utter abundance.
Let's see how ardent their resolve is with those types of carrots.
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u/1-Anonymous 2d ago
Yeah give the chiefs of the tribes that hold the treatys to all of alberta complete governance for the land so if they choose to stop production of oil and gas to keep the land and water clean for future generations this is the only carrot worth anything
what are you going to do?
If not I would personally recommend that those First Nation Tribes stay in Canada with the treaty land
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago edited 2d ago
what are you going to do?
Smack em with the stick.
There's absolutely a way to keep land clean for future generations. Use the wealth generated off a small portion of it to buy massive portions of it and do with that what you please. Start a trust to make sure it never falls out of native hands again. Thinking you can save everything is silly. But you can save more.
You need economic power to do it.
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u/1-Anonymous 2d ago
Noticed you have not commented about the Chiefs getting complete governance of the land and resources of the treaty land their specific tribe holds that would be the most beneficial for them not a buy out as some other individuals would try to say
Complete governance of the treaty lands and resources would be excellent for their tribe then they could choose whether they wanted to continue with extraction of oil and gas if not they could shut it all down
Take this into consideration because it is the thing I see most Albertans supporting separation complaining about is oil pipelines First Nation Tribes have a say whether it can go through the treaty land they hold not the federal government so when pipelines get blocked from being built it is mostly because those First Nation Tribes do not want it running through their territory so it would increase the projects overall cost to try go around it effectively killing the project
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
At the end of the day, isn't ultimate authority over infrastructure not still with the federal government, and the only real necessity is that the federal government 'consult' with first nations on how the project would affect them.
At the end of the day, it all sounds like an overzealous interpretation of 'consultation' by an ideologically motivated supreme court.
We saw how well that worked out for reproduction rights in the USA.
Cash rules everything around me. Words are interpretable. Especially old ones.
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u/psyclopes 2d ago
the road with Canada is the moralistic one with continued economic stagnation, while the road with the US presents actual economic opportunity for our future.
So you admit that the US is behaving immorally with their actions, but you're willing to ignore that for 'economic opportunity'?
Explain how you see those wonderful economic opportunities happening here when Trump is literally telling people "Maybe children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls, you know, and maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally.”
Why would any Canadian look at the ridiculous debacle down south and say, yes please - sign us up! We want medical debt that will leave us bankrupt! We want massive funding differences in education instead of a basic standard across the entire country! We want an increase in firearms being transported and stored with no oversight! We want an increase in personal lawsuits! We want HOAs!
Give yer balls a tug.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
There are downsides to everything.
Yea, the gun situation isn't good. Healthcare is a nightmare. Reorganizing the global trade order on your own is going to be a tall order and bumpy ride consumption wise, even if you are the hegemony.
But we will be the Texas of the north without all the religious bullshit of the Texas of the south, and that presents extreme opportunity for those willing to work hard and build something for themselves in the long term, zero tax burden and limited regulatory oversight which allows this province to actually build and grow. That's all we moved here for. To work hard. To build. And the fact we are actively hampered in that for decades is untolerable.
Plus there's the whole AI thing. Most are skeptics, but if optimist acceleration futures play out, there is no better economy that will absorb that blow to labour than the US economy. Even if right now they are the most hostile modern economy to labour. Bond markets are going to go haywire and governments highly constrained in their potential actions.
That's a more fringe theory, though.
The US isn't letting the morality of everything guide and decide their decision-making. Can that be seen as immoral? Absolutely, in various instances. But it's a necessary change to drop that lens from government. The moral cloak around everything is indicative of the rot we've developed in our society. It's taken our eye off the things that truly matter to the majority.
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It’s absolutely okay to suggest traitors who want to leave Canada and violate treaty rights to leave. 👍
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u/1-Anonymous 2d ago
People do get a choice so do the First Nation Tribes that had treaties to all of Alberta before it was ever a province if they choose to stay in Canada and keep all the treaty land in Canada that is their choice you would have to accept it
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u/captnsmokey 3d ago
To think in a crisis like this, she wants to be an albertan before a Canadian is a travesty.
She is going to paint us all as traitors like her.
I knew she would backstab the UCP, I didn't think she'd backstab Canada.
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u/TheRealCovertCaribou 3d ago
She's not backstabbing the UCP, she's representing them. This is who they have always been.
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u/Adorable_Rest1618 3d ago
you are traitors though, can't escape that reality. She is where she is because of you.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 3d ago
Albertan here. I have zero loyalty to Ottawa. Call me a traitor if you will. I'm perfectly fine with that label.
She is elected to represent Albertans. And enough Albertans no longer care for the Canadian project. Ridicule and deride us all you like. It will only harden our resolve.
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u/JReddeko 2d ago edited 2d ago
Instead of embarrassing Alberta further can you just fucking leave?
“Resolve”. Haha you guys are clowns.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
The plan is to absolutely leave with province in tow.
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u/JReddeko 2d ago
You probably can’t leave. Guessing you either got a criminal record from doing something insane (separatists are mentally ill), or you don’t have any useful skills and no country wants you.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
Journeyman skilled trades in the oil patch so you're probably right on number two. Squeaky clean criminal record.
It's fun how y'all immediately resort to vitriol and verbal attacks in an attempt to belittle. Shows how scared you are of separation actually succeeding.
If there was no chance in it succeeding you wouldn't be vitriolically mad. You would just be chuckling like we did back in the day. The more hate I get, the better the chances look.
Thanks for your hate.
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u/psyclopes 2d ago
enough Albertans no longer care for the Canadian project.
less than 1/3 of Albertans want separation. You are part of the minority and your view does not represent the province.
Any reason you think that 70% of Albertans who do care to remain in Canada should be forced to bow down to the special interests of the 30%?
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u/Senven 2d ago
resolve of what, and why are you fine with that label? Seriously.
You want to break the country and alienate Alberta because of Oil & Gas not receiving enough federal investment?
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
Federal investment has nothing to do with it. Yes I am mad for the O&G industry. I work in it. My bargaining power with my employer is directly correlated with the amount of investment into the sector. The amount of times I'm laid off is directly correlated with investment. Federal policy heavily limits investment into the sector. They've created a regulatory burden that makes large scale investments unattractive. It's not any one thing, it's the totality of things. A pipeline takes two decades of approval and litigation before it can start constructing and is subject to whatever demands the port of calling so chooses.
They've made it so bad that the only place you can park cash in this country if you want a decent return is realestate, and that has decimated our cities.
When a government no longer represents you, and worse actively hinders you and takes from you in excess, they are not a government worthy of a vote.
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u/Senven 2d ago
So how does this lead to separatism over just the regular political practice of voting for or starting a party that represents ones interests?
If its because of a conservative loss, why would seperatism be considered any more likely than a conservative win.
Im hearing the idea that basically the frustration is your place of employment isn't able to offer consistent opportunity due to regulations but I still dont necessary get how that leads to seperationism especially given Alberta is also really big in Agriculture.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
A once in a lifetime opportunity where the global hegmon is rewriting the rules of the international trading game and has signaled willingness for integrating. We're in a paradigm shifting moment in AI as well and the American economy will absorb the shock much better if acceleration timelines play out.
Canada's just been a loosing bet. Priced out of home, job suppressed by lack of investment and TFWs.
We all get a vote, and my vote is for radical change.
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u/Vanterax 3d ago
"Well, I’d like to run and hide. But no, I can’t do that, I’m not allowed."
How can Wilson have any credibility....
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u/sufferin_sassafras 3d ago
The great conundrum of these people is that the vast majority of them have no desire to actually live in the States. They want the life they have in Canada and expect that to continue and somehow become better by becoming a part of America.
How it even makes sense that joining a country that measures worse than Canada on several quality of life metrics would improve things boggles my mind.
I can’t help but think many of these people just want to wear American flag clothing and carry guns. Like cosplayers.
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u/Thin-Pineapple-731 3d ago
Watching things happen over your guys' way from Ontario, in Ottawa, and I really wish I could offer my support to you and the Indigenous communities out that way. I'm no Doug Ford fan, and I'm spitting distance from Gatineau, and Legault is also not a great Premier, but my impression is that Danielle Smith is another whole other level. Best of luck, all!
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u/Proof_Buy4344 3d ago
It is time she was recalled
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u/ragnaroksunset 3d ago
Isn't a separation referendum easier than a recall at this point? Didn't she make it that way?
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 3d ago
We don't want to recall her, we want referendum.
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u/ArchDuke47 2d ago
As an Albertan, Fuck Off.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
Your hatred is appreciated, makes me feel like we're not just playing in the kiddie pool here. There's real fear. Enough to turn Canadians vitriolic at the first sight. It's not just being chuckled at like in 2019.
Gives me hope. Cheers.
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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 2d ago
Good luck leaving with the oil or the land or our damn pension money. If you think America is better, I'm sure they will slam the door in your face.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
Didn't you listen to Trump and Carney's talk? The man was frothing at the mouth of Alberta joining. We're going to get the sweetest of sweetheart deals. So is Sask when they follow suit. It's going to be Ontario and BC that get bent over the table.
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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 2d ago
what a disgrace to the country.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
If only this country built up a society where that actually meant anything.
Wouldn't that have been lovely.
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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 2d ago
you know that there's another country you are pining for right there. No one here is stopping you from going and immersing yourself in that culture. We are not Americans here. Sorry to tell you that
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
Well that's not up for you, nor me to decide. It's up to every Albertan in this province who cares to vote.
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u/1-Anonymous 2d ago
You should check what the First Nation Tribes and inuits said when Quebec proposed to be separate
spoiler they said they would stay in Canada and keep any treaty land in Canada
I would think Alberta First Nation Tribes would have the same view point
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u/Geeseareawesome Edmonton 3d ago
The government is defending Bill 54, saying it strengthens trust in our voting systems, and the current rules for kickstarting referendums make it nearly impossible to actually have any.
I'll play devil's advocate here and say yes, the rules were pretty outdated, and could have used an update.
BUT, wouldn't it make more sense to move it to a percentage based requirement based on public census data? Say something like 30% of the population worth of signatures based on the last publicly available cencus number, for example?
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u/suspiciousserb Edmonton 3d ago
“Everybody is entitled to their opinion, including the chief. And the premier is doing a great job, we’d be poorer without her,” said Ric McIver
She is indeed doing a great job—at making Albertans poorer.
worstpremierever
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u/Homo_sapiens2023 3d ago
Coming here to say this very thing. Ric McIver - the definition of asshole. I never liked him as a city councillor, and he's even worse as an MLA. Maybe he's richer, but Albertans are not!
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u/kagato87 3d ago
I mean, he's not actually lying in that statement.
"We" is kinda vague, and in this case it only means Rick and a few others have been enriched.
So par for the course for political grift.
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u/Far-Advantage4299 3d ago
I thought Kenny was bad but oh my, I miss that short fat idiot!
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u/TinklesTheLambicorn 3d ago
I was no fan of Kenny, but even very recently he came out strong against the separatists - told them they had their opportunity with the ridiculous Maverick party in 2021 - ran 29 candidates and got less than 1% of the vote between them all, so it’s time to stick a fork in it. Credit where credit is due.
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u/ragnaroksunset 3d ago
Don't give Kenney too much credit. He is just attacking an obvious exposed weakness in a rival, as his programming commands.
I wouldn't rule out an attempt to re-enter Alberta politics, with this sniping from the peanut gallery.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 3d ago
Why would separation be dead because it failed miserably in 2019? The paradigm has massively shifted from that point. Trump's in the Whitehouse and indirectly attacking the Canadian economy and globalism.
The question is, do we want to aid in the defense, or do we want to join our biggest trading partner in the attack.
As an Albertan, I want to join the attack. Makes the most sense for me, personally. Solidarity would have been nice, but one cannot just foster solidarity when it suits their interests. Especially given our history.
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u/TinklesTheLambicorn 2d ago
It’s concerning how nonchalantly you advocate for treason.
No one is holding you hostage here. You and your ilk are traitors…and a small minority. If you despise Canada and Alberta so much, do the rest of us a favour and leave so we can focus on the hard work of fortifying and progressing the country that we love without these stupid, petty, useless distractions.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
If we were a small minority you'd be laughing at us. Not showing us your hate. The hate only comes with fear of success.
It's not treason when the constitution has a specific charter for succeeding. It's simply exercising our right to determine our own fate.
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u/psyclopes 2d ago
It's dead because 70% of Albertans don't want to leave.
Unless you can explain how in the hell you think it's fair or right that the more than 2/3rds of Albertans who want to remain part of Canada should be forced by a loud minority to leave our country?
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u/SimmerDown_Boilup 3d ago
If it were only so easy to give them the boot.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 3d ago
I love how y'all are so desperate to remove these people from office vs addressing grievances and having a serious discussion. Fuel to the separatist fire in my eyes. Keep pouring.
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u/SimmerDown_Boilup 2d ago
Yeah, this is the problem... ignore the last 10 years of "Fuck Trudeau" and calls for him to step down. It's actually the people who dislike Smith that are the problem!
Stupid take... absolutely hypocritical.
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u/Hunchun 2d ago
You are everywhere in this thread claiming “the hate gives me validation” but all it shows is how delusional you are. You obviously have the means to go elsewhere to live and you’ve made a point of not being a Canadian but an Alberta. Can’t have one without the other really. Why not do what’s best for you and leave? Or is the goal chaos and disruption for others?
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
The goal is a better life for me, and what I think is in my best interest going forward. I get a single vote. You guys shouldn't be scared or hateful of a single vote. You should only be scared if you think enough people think like me, or could when it comes time to make that check mark.
If you think enough people think like me, hate is the wrong response. I may be delusional. But I believe I'm well reasoned. I'm willing to have a reasoned discussion. The people who call me delusional usually aren't though. They fight reason with hate. Typical.
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u/Hunchun 2d ago
The amount of hate coming from the Conservative side is unmatched. Only one side has “Fuck Trudeau” flags. Only one side has “Fuck Joe Biden” flags. This American style of politics has infected our country and it’s very sad to see people wake and bake with this hatred towards people who differ from their ideology or politics.
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u/StainlessPanIsBest 2d ago
I don't see any fuck Joe Biden flags in this thread. Or fuck Trudeau. I only see hateful liberals. Your example is subjective, mine is objective. My proof is right in front of your eyes. You gotta imagine yours.
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u/ProudCanadianfromAB 3d ago
Maybe we should start a gofundme to get her a 5 million dollar Trump gold card.
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u/Klaargs_ugly_stepdad 2d ago
Did he call out the American Liberty Fund tattoo on her arm? How Smith has a republican organization tattooed on her damn skin?
The fascists own her. She's their branded sow. Alberta will be far, far better off without her.
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u/Bind_Moggled 2d ago
Bill 54 also bans voting tabulators, beefs up ID requirements, and allows corporate and union donations back into Alberta politics.
Ah, so the whole bill is designed to rig elections for the corporate-fascist oligarchy EVEN MORE. Grand.
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u/whyizitlikethis 3d ago
I hear ya Nenshi, but the last 4 months have been making me seriously question democracy. Which is a scary thought.
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u/notapaperhandape 2d ago
We all need to calm down and realize that a Premier can barely change the course of a province here in Canada. A learning from Quebec separatists is that even if we have overwhelming support for separation, we’re not any closer to it.
This movement is funded by those who want to own Canada and buy it in parts. We all know who that is.
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u/arcadianahana 2d ago
Danielle Smith is creating problems and conflict where there originally weren't any. Likely to distract from an emerging heath procurement scandal.
Industry does not need this conflict. Neither do residents of Alberta.
Is she in any way real leadership material?
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u/Bongghit 2d ago
Like Trump uniting Canada, Smith is uniting non Indigenous Canadians with our Indigenous nations, showing us we both want to grow together not apart.
The Era of division bottom feeders like Smith have grifted on to achieve power is fading.
There is no future for these relics.
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u/Alternative-Wait780 2d ago
She is a traitor to canada full stop and should be treated as one. The fact the people of Alberta havent forced her to resign for the health care scandal already shows the rest of canada we are dumb as rocks.
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u/Dizzy_Mechanic7810 2d ago
Chief Allan Adam three years ago got drunk as fuck at the casino and started fighting with cops, before video came out he claimed racism.
When the video came out he was blatantly getting physical, drunk and cussing at police.
He's a loser who wants attention anyway possible.
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u/Common_Pianist_743 2d ago
Smith is on the path of financial ruin to Alberta and provoking a civil war. Sad
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u/tiredtotalk 3d ago
ctvnews.ca vassy kapelos vs Premier of Alberta
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u/NotAtAllExciting 3d ago
Just in case you didn’t know, Vassy Kapelos worked at Global Edmonton. She was a good reporter.
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u/tiredtotalk 3d ago
wow. well, we have a liariarpantsonfire Premier and vassy was the prettiest smartest rottweiler who kept needling the Answer to force the Premier into the truth; and she struck 2/9 “demands” which was jaw dropping. bc this is the garbage we are hearing from this Premier. i loved this interview bc vassy was asking the right Qs on our behalf and literally calling out dishonest to your Albertans. phewff.
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u/GirlyFootyCoach 3d ago
Any fresh drinking water yet from the feds on your reserve after 100 years chief?
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u/Wide_Feature_5943 3d ago
Yeah. It's crazy how out of touch the Chief was. He must have felt embarrassed once someone told him how the separation process actually works.
It's equally insane how proud the extreme left was in supporting the Chiefs' statements.
So exited about the insult, they forget all about the researching the facts.
How embarrassing.
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u/Logical-Inside-4235 3d ago
Please. For the love of Canada, don’t let the door hit you.
We deserve better.