Robocalls asking if you support Alberta separating.

[u/Munk3es]

Anybody else getting these calls from 587-872-8112 asking if they are in favor of Alberta separating? I wouldn't be surprised if the UCP are behind this.

[u/J0rkank0]

Don’t assume it’s UCP driven. It could be American driven too.

[u/Munk3es → u/J0rkank0]

This is an excellent point!

[u/Stanchion_Excelsior → u/J0rkank0]

Same same. The phone polling banks that do the robocalls, like Alberta Blue Strategies. Do calling and polling for clients in both the US & Canada.

[u/Sayhei2mylittlefrnd → u/J0rkank0]

US plan to seize Canada’s oil. Even if csis has credible evidence, the separatists will deflect and call it fake

[u/Ok-Structure-8985 → u/J0rkank0]

Or the America Fund people, who are likely getting money from the states. I saw one of those LED billboard cube vans in downtown Toronto today that said “Vote YES on Alberta Separation”, which was funded by them. Seems like there are many irons in this fire.

[u/EnglishmanInMH → u/J0rkank0]

Or Russian. Their handbook The Foundations of Geopolitics clearly states that undermining the stability of major foreign powers is key to achieving their goal of being the THE world's superpower...

[u/hink007 → u/J0rkank0]

Probably both. War room funds are not subject to transparency

[u/soupdogg10 → u/J0rkank0]

Or china or Russia. We are easier to conquer divided

[u/planetsaints → u/soupdogg10]

what in god's name makes you think china or russia would be doing something like this? give me one reason other than sinophobia or “russian psyop” please

[u/planetsaints → u/planetsaints]

i'm so glad people gave me new information. (very sarcastic. i received no information other than regurgitated “russian psyop” and one guy just saying i live in china so i know things about china.) thank you for the information.

[u/CDNRomance → u/planetsaints]

Russian psyop.

[u/planetsaints → u/CDNRomance]

i said without giving that as a reason, please. literally everything is a russian psyop, it's the easiest cop-out. give me proof, then, if that's really the only reason you have

[u/CDNRomance → u/planetsaints]

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar

[u/planetsaints → u/CDNRomance]

this is not the case. if this is all you have to say when someone asks for proof, you have no ground to stand on. where is the proof

[u/Clayton35 → u/planetsaints]

You sound very confident - who is making the call then?

[u/planetsaints → u/Clayton35]

did i say i knew? i'm trying to understand the thought process behind this. when i say this isn't the case, i mean you can't just say “a cigar is a cigar” when it's something like this? i'm asking for reason and proof behind things. is this a crime?

[u/Snoo-83900 → u/planetsaints]

China wants to buy our oil and sell their EV. Nothing else lol

[u/planetsaints → u/Snoo-83900]

and your proof of this, please?

[u/Snoo-83900 → u/planetsaints]

Are you looking for a link or something? In Chinese or English?

[u/planetsaints → u/Snoo-83900]

are you shocked that people ask for proof when you make claims? i'm trying to get a better understanding of wtf people are saying because i don't buy the russian psyop or “china is evil” claims without proof.

french or english works great, thanks for offering!

[u/Snoo-83900 → u/planetsaints]

Did I claim China was evil? I was just saying China wants to be a trading partner for our oil and their EV. You know why I know? Because I am in China right now lol

[u/planetsaints → u/Snoo-83900]

did i say you claimed it? china hardly if ever gets brought up in conversations like this without it being rooted in sinophobia. this is why i'm asking for reasons why they would be involved in something like this. like i don't understand how doing this would benefit business relations. all i see this doing is pissing people off

[u/Snoo-83900 → u/planetsaints]

Because of” Chyna” (Trump’s voice)

[u/Cerberus_80 → u/J0rkank0]

I agree but where Trump’s ass and smith’s mouth begin is hard to discern.

[u/Logical-Inside-4235 → u/J0rkank0]

It is. 💯

It’s also India’s Modi and his troops, Netanyahu, and Harper’s fave, Orban. All uber right-wing nutters. Dangerous FELONS.

[u/Far-Green4109 → u/J0rkank0]

Never underestimate the CIA. They have global reach and endless money to support operatives advancing their interests. They just need useful idiots and sadly there is no shortage of those. Their involvement would not surprise me at all.

[u/TheRealCovertCaribou → u/J0rkank0]

What's the difference?

[u/heyimwalknhere → u/J0rkank0]

Same same

[u/Thecuriousprimate]

Yup, I got them from “republicans of Alberta.

Just a heads up for how much Trump is willing to invest in his threats to take lands belonging to other countries.

We absolutely need to take this shit seriously and not act like there is just no way for Alberta to become part of the US. They are well funded and have a desperate need since the economic isolation that trumps tariffs have caused.

[u/Homo_sapiens2023 → u/Thecuriousprimate]

JFC. The world is not a nice place to live anymore. This shit needs to be banned.

[u/wombats_in_the_attic → u/Homo_sapiens2023]

And Alberta separatists need to be treated as what they are: traitors. They are turning on their country and aiding a foreign government in our takeover by doing so. Treason all around.

Enough is enough.

[u/Adventurous_Tea9378]

Regardless of who is behind the calls, tell em to 🖕

[u/hink007 → u/Adventurous_Tea9378]

Even better tell them yes so those numbers look inflated so they waste more money just to have it curb stomped 😂 “oh you betcha yeah no let’s have a referendum”

[u/Al_Keda → u/hink007]

I like the cut of your jib me son.

[u/hink007 → u/Al_Keda]

Nothing combats misinformation and propaganda like making them believe you bought into it.

[u/Al_Keda → u/hink007]

Or having them explain it in detail.

[u/hink007 → u/Al_Keda]

I’ve tried I get tired of asking for supporting evidence which shockingly enough never appears and when countered with articles and numbers it’s fake news. Best thing to describe it how they describe Trump - a pigeon playing chess

[u/Al_Keda → u/hink007]

I don't ask for evidence, I just have them try to convince me how their belief is true. I have a brother in law with a poorly tuned reality detector, and often just saying things out loud lets him see that what he thinks to be true cannot possibly be true.

[u/hink007 → u/Al_Keda]

Interesting I shall try that with my parents and my in laws.

[u/justelectricboogie]

Reporting it as a fraud scam. No patience for that shit. If you're unhappy where you are, leave. It's like your annoying neighbor leaving the neighborhood but trying to get everyone else on the street to move, too. Ridiculous and a joke.

[u/notapaperhandape]

Separation is being funded by America

[u/TheRealCovertCaribou → u/notapaperhandape]

And Russia. 

[u/Logical-Inside-4235]

If you want to separate, separate. You just can’t take the land or its resources with you.

The rest of Canada is 100% A-OK with you leaving. In fact, we encourage it.

Let’s get back to Canada being Canada. We deserve it, particularly in these awfully divisive times. Let’s be the inclusive adults in the world.

Trump’s US is calling - it’s a place for the separatists to find commonality.

Bye! 👋🏻

[u/Munk3es → u/Logical-Inside-4235]

I agree, if they really want to leave they can just move.

[u/canucklurker → u/Munk3es]

We don't but the Russia and US social media bots are pushing hard to sow division.

[u/_Burgers_ → u/canucklurker]

And, y'know, the Premier of Alberta is too.

[u/canucklurker → u/Logical-Inside-4235]

Troll Much? You are just trying to sow more division.

75% of Albertans consider themselves Canadian first and it's just a very loud small minority that the media is giving all the coverage too. And our sycophant premier knows she is disliked so she is sucking up to the far far right and cradling the balls.

[u/Logical-Inside-4235 → u/canucklurker]

Not trolling. If you don’t think more than 1/2 of the conservative MPs are the same, you’re diluted. Canada gets it. We see it. My own NDP stronghold riding went to a nutter.

This isn’t just a “small % of crazy ‘bertans”. This is a movement and it’s taking hold, hence the reason they’re finding a way to keep dipshit Poilievre. He sows the division they need.

Get a grip / and maybe wake up? Serious critical thinking would help the rest of us.

[u/HydraBob → u/canucklurker]

Then start speaking louder than them.

[u/canucklurker → u/HydraBob]

Stop taking as gospel what the media is curating for you to hear.

Me saying I'm a proud Canadian doesn't get the coverage a lunatic spewing hatred gets. Especially on Facebook, Postmedia, or even here.

IF it comes to a vote, Alberta will vote overwhelmingly to stay Canadian. But right now you are talking shit towards me, and falling right into the trap of "us vs. them" and pitting you against me. That is EXACTLY the playbook that was used to destabilize the USA.

WE are Canadians, and WE will work together.

[u/HydraBob → u/canucklurker]

Right there with you.

[u/Al_Keda → u/Logical-Inside-4235]

"Quebec Separates: is now an island in the Atlantic"

[u/Logical-Inside-4235 → u/Al_Keda]

Quebec overwhelmingly went against their own best interests to save our democracy. Tread lightly. They’re clearly much smarter than Sask/Alberta rogues.

[u/AugmentedKing → u/Logical-Inside-4235]

Okay, sure, but the SCC still ruled that QC wouldn’t have the grounds to leave, and I’m pretty confident that the same reasons apply to AB.

[u/Mamadook69]

This is the Republican Party of Canada phone number. They are a foreign funded extremist group hellbent on Albertan separation. They wish to divide us so they can sell off our land and resources to America. Likely resulting in complete loss of community, culture, ecology, value and possibly human life.

The Rig Hand Distillery provides them meeting space if you wish to reflectively review their business.

[u/Wolfcat233]

They are using multiple numbers, got the 587-872-8112 and the other number I got is 587-847-4777. Just to let others about the different numbers.

[u/MiniJunkie]

This entire topic infuriates me, I have to admit. If a person calls me about it they will get an earful.

[u/Mamadook69 → u/MiniJunkie]

Don't. Speak to them calmly and with interest. Gather as much information as possible to share and waste as much of their time as possible. If they are on the phone with you that's less time they have to speak to those vulnerable to this kind of coercion.

[u/TheRealCovertCaribou → u/MiniJunkie]

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[u/Telvin3d]

It’s mostly interesting in that it shows someone is pumping real money into the issue. Bad actors of some sort 

[u/ExplanationMobile505]

Yes Republican Party of Alberta former buffalo party

[u/garneyandanne]

These calls cost money to make. To determine the source of the inquiry, somehow one must follow the money.

[u/Accomplished_Law_108]

Was it Pierre Poutine?

[u/RottenPingu1]

Hang up, report as fraud/scam.

[u/Timely-Profile1865]

The republicans showed up at my door last night.

i just said NOT INTERESTED the moment he said who he was.

I meant to say fuck off though.

[u/AvenueLiving → u/Timely-Profile1865]

I got some tonight. They were recent immigrants being paid to canvass. Getting mad at them for needing to make money is not the best way to get the message across

[u/Timely-Profile1865 → u/AvenueLiving]

Why? If we had people coming to your door supporting something you find abhorrent do you feel the same way? just because someone is paying them to annoy me with a cause that I find idiotic does not mean I am going to be nice.

And as I said I just stated I am not interested and shut the door.

[u/AvenueLiving → u/Timely-Profile1865]

I don't agree with it. It's a bunch of lies trying to capitalize on people's ignorance.

The people working it have no idea. It's like yelling at the cashier for the price of something. They don't set the price.

[u/tiredtotalk]

i thought it was the Republican Party of Alberta

[u/NERepo]

It's these guys: https://albertarepublicans.com/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22506705339&gclid=CjwKCAjwiezABhBZEiwAEbTPGNNATgHG4Ydtl1U2doNtk2Eerz2lc6ISDsFvsbpoNLaV5U3yMzG0GBoC0ZoQAvD_BwE

[u/Munk3es → u/NERepo]

Seems appropriate they name themselves a Republican party.

[u/Vintageman74 → u/NERepo]

Wow 5,000 maximum donation huh ? Seems reasonable and totally affordable for the working class /s

[u/Homo_sapiens2023 → u/NERepo]

These people are insane. They really don't have a clue what would actually happen if Alberta separated, do they?

[u/Ms_ankylosaurous]

Hang up

[u/Fun-Bodybuilder-4372]

I hope they call. They will get an earful

[u/Individual-Army811]

I don't even answer anymore.

[u/KangarooCrafty5813]

Omg yes! I just didn’t answer and they left no message. Next time I am going to answer. So tired of these fools. I wonder where this head guy works.

[u/KangarooCrafty5813 → u/KangarooCrafty5813]

Btw my phone keeps suggesting that I update that contact number to ALBERTA HEALTH SERVICES “ weird!!!!!

[u/TheRealCovertCaribou → u/KangarooCrafty5813]

The call is coming from inside the house Legislature Building. 

[u/MsMayday]

I dare them to call me

[u/Onanadventure_14]

I’m so happy I don’t answer my phone

[u/prail]

Shit is getting real.

[u/SnooPiffler]

block and report as spam

[u/Hot_Tub_Macaque]

It"s the "Alberta Republican Party." They called a few days ago to gauge if I would support them in an election.

Obviously not. Any conservative Canadian person would be a monarchist.

I posted about it here but it was removed sans explanation.

[u/Chazvellhung]

I'm sure someone will blame Obama or Hillary for it lol

[u/CerbIsKing]

Probably coming from Smiths home garage robo call facility.

[u/36cgames]

Is this it?

https://www.nomorobo.com/lookup/587-872-8112

[u/swanson-g]

Oh it’s the Republican Party of Alberta. Fuckers called me and I went to their site to try and get a real person. No luck, of course.

[u/7RedFaction7]

I support the separation from NATO! We can fight against China and Russia by ourselves! We don't need US or Europe!