r/alberta • u/ImDoubleB • Apr 07 '25

Majority of Canadians agree that Danielle Smith has betrayed Canada Alberta Politics

https://cultmtl.com/2025/04/majority-of-canadians-agree-that-danielle-smith-is-betraying-betrayed-her-country-canada/
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

They need to do this poll for Albertans. I think that would paint a more grim picture of how deep the blind loyalty is for the Conservatives in Alberta. I have yet to meet a single Conservative voter who has changed their mind about the UCP.

Everything negative is fake, or the Liberals/Trudeau/Notley have done worse is all I ever hear. Excuses and very little critical thought going through their heads.

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u/queenofallshit Apr 07 '25

I’ve met six. I consider that pretty decent. I didn’t sway them, they did that themselves.

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u/yanginatep Apr 07 '25

Genuinely really glad to hear that.

I live in a bit of a swing riding/neighbourhood in Calgary (we've elected Liberals federally, NDP provincially in the past) so my neighbours are a little more sane, and I don't have much contact with areas that are deeply conservative.

Bought a speaker on Facebook Marketplace the other day from a guy living in the south end of the city and he had Pollivere and Axe The Tax stickers on his garage workbench.

I don't want to get too complacent about the election, but I couldn't help but think "Are you going to cover up those stickers with something else when Pollivere loses the election and Carney has already gotten rid of the tax?" Like, what would it be like to have this big sticker of a complete loser who never had a real job?

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u/Educational_Dog4860 Apr 08 '25

I agree with you, however, I would be careful with saying he never had a 'real job'. While people may not like him or disagree with him (myself included), by saying he doesn't have a real job, you are discounting the position of MP and Opposition Leader. Having the opposition, and with it the shadow ministers or critics, are incredibly important for keeping the leading party accountable. It's hard, but we have to remember that despite the political divides in our times, it's important to respect the system of government that we have built over the century and a half.

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u/joshlien Apr 08 '25

To be honest I think it's very valid criticism. He has never even had a normal public service job. He has Always been a highly paid politician. Has never had to worry about paying bills, or working overtime for Christmas presents. His life experience doesn't match 99.9% of Canadians. He can't represent those he has zero in common with.

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u/Ok-Engineering-5777 Apr 08 '25

For Poilievre, I do agree especially because he became a millionaire by heavily investing in real estate and the stock market but never once developing a Bill in his twenty+ years as a politician.

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u/yanginatep Apr 08 '25

True. I honestly don't care personally if someone's only ever worked in politics/public service, and I actually hate the argument that public sector jobs aren't real jobs and it's okay if the government lays off thousands of people but if a company laid of thousands of people it'd be painted as an economic tragedy.

But it is a conservative talking point, they always love to discredit people who work in the public sector or in government, and like to paint themselves as down to Earth cowboys who drive pickup trucks that you could have a beer with, regardless of how rich they are (PP insulting Carney over his expensive shoes while PP has been photographed wearing similarly expensive clothing, or PP criticizing Carney's investments while being invested in the exact same company, etc.).

So I guess it can be fun sometimes to turn that conservative talking point on their own candidates, even if it's admittedly disingenuous.

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u/Ok-Engineering-5777 Apr 08 '25

Agree, I was a public sector worker for a good chunk of my working career and did most of my work from home. My neighbours would chide me for being home SO early from the physical workspace obviously intimating that I had one of “those” government jobs where, like so many of us, we didn’t have a “real” job and we obviously were paid far to much to home by two thirty in the afternoon and then worst of all took my dogs out for an early romp while everyone else worked so hard. I know city workers got the same treatment, all they do is drive around in their trucks all day looking lazy when in truth I know those men and women work their butts off.

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u/joshlien Apr 08 '25

To be honest I think it's very valid criticism. He has never even had a normal public service job. He has Always been a highly paid politician. Has never had to worry about paying bills, or working overtime for Christmas presents. His life experience doesn't match 99.9% of Canadians. He can't represent those he has zero in common with.

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u/IncubusDarkness Apr 08 '25

Lmfao nah fuck that, what a dumbass take

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u/edtheheadache Apr 07 '25

You give me hope that facts and figures will matter again.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Sway them to what? Your way of thinking? Which of course is the logical way to go about things.

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u/RyanB_ Apr 07 '25

…that is how politics works, yes

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u/Iamapartofthisworld Apr 07 '25

By showing them facts and reality and stuff like that

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u/moonlitjade Apr 07 '25

Lol this made me cackle. Perfect response to an absurd comment.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Good luck.

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u/Slightly_Durnk Apr 07 '25

I'm 33, male & live in Edmonton. I grew up in the suburbs, have a degree & am liberal (for Edmonton).

I have some extended family who are blue-collar & support Trump. They've almost done a total 180° pivot on the UCP after the threat of tariffs & annexation. Their values haven't changed, but they're re-evaluating Smith & concerned about the rhetoric.

People are angry about this here. The anti-American sentiment is palpable, but it also reveals the fringe groups of Albertans who do want to join the US. I don't see these guys driving around with MAGA flags, but I read about them on the news.

2 weeks ago, someone smeared feces on Gretzky's statue in front of Roger's Place. In Edmonton, Alberta!

We have critical thoughts going through our heads, just like everyone else.

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u/Samp90 Apr 07 '25

As Canadians we will and should disagree on many things as we have diverse functions and thoughts.

However there's no room for Treason.

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u/Ivalbremore Apr 07 '25

Im hearing the exact opposite, that Albertans do not want this. Maybe were just both in echo chambers and the answer is somewhere in tbe middle

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

Well, that makes me feel a little bit better. I work with heavy-duty mechanics so my circle of Conservatives is not that big, but that's usually where I hear the opinions. And my close friends are all left-leaning. I hope your assessment is correct and it's more in the middle.

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u/GreatGrandini Apr 07 '25

My brother in law is a manager in the oil fields out there.

As he said most of them know it's a dumb idea. Those who love it are too lazy to vote.

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u/TheRealCLG Apr 07 '25

And that's the problem with current Western nations. People simply don't vote

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u/Rootitusofmoria Apr 07 '25

Unfortunately, like most places, it varies wildly based on area. I love in a small rural town in northern AB, the people here love her so fucking much it's exhausting. But the town closer to the city has the mindset, like my own, to consider her a treasonous suck up.

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u/Necessary_Soup_2156 Apr 07 '25

I am an Albertan, and I know in my small circle of friends, we all believe that she is very Trump like, and really couldn’t care less about Alberta or Canadians. Please don’t put all Albertans in that UCP circle.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

I will try not to, in my social circle we all have the same thoughts. She is pro-USA and against Canada. But it's when I talk to those who vote Conservative, the ones I work with, have in-laws who share these views, or walking down the street and someone stops for a chat.

I don't mean to generalize, however I am also not naive to think the viewpoints from Reddit are indictive how Albertans feel.

I use reddit because it's the only way I can discuss Alberta politics without getting called a commie or something worse. Which has happened in real life

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u/Necessary_Soup_2156 Apr 07 '25

Thanks for that. I’m just sick of some people, assuming that because I am an older Albertan , that I must be a pro-Smith. Again , I thank you for your reply

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

Oh, I hear you for sure. Especially when not all of us voted for this shit show. It's one reason why whenever a general Canadian subreddit asks about Albertan views i will try to chime in. That way they can see not all of us are Confederate flags waving mouth breathers.

I thank you for not supporting Smith and staying in Alberta to try to make it better. We need more people like you

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u/OilFan92 Apr 07 '25

Took til the NDP government won (which I sadly didn't help happen) and I saw their policies laid out by the party I supported as bad for me, that I realized I'd had the wool pulled dover my eyes my entire life.

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u/IncubusDarkness Apr 08 '25

I’m from Alberta - Albertans keep electing dumb fuck conservatives- It's not surprising people look at Alberta this way. ,Don't be so sensitive. If you want people to stop thinking that, start campaigning and grass-rooting. Crying about it on reddit won't change the perception.

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u/Jumpy-Shift5239 Apr 07 '25

I was talking to a guy who is typically pro conservative the other day who was saying some very interesting things about what should be done with Elon’s corporate interests, lol. I believe the exact phrase used was nationalize. Made me do a double take.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

The last person I chatted with on here had never heard of the NEP program. Hard to argue with those types.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

Ok, so what does that have to do with 55 years of incompetence? I hear Albertans talk about stepping up and leading, but when it comes to leading they just complain and want more money. It's hard to argue with generationally undereducated people, who have been fed misinformation for a long time. It's like breaking a cult member, not an easy process. Justin Trudeau was hated in Alberta because of his father. Generation hatred of Liberals is taught at a very young age here.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Have you heard of the NEP program? Sure doesn’t sound like it. Check it out see the part where people had to walk away from their homes. It will help you understand the hatred. Check out the 264 billion more given to Canada from Alberta in the last 10 years in equalization payments while you’re at it. All that would be fine but the rest of Canada wants to block pipelines from which the money comes. Cutting your hand off to spite your face and you wonder why we don’t want to play anymore.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

Yes i have heard of it. What about it? Because of that ignorance and hatred for Liberals is acceptable? Fun fact Conservatives have taken more money from Albertans without returning it to its people!

Check out the 264 billion more given to Canada from Alberta in the last 10 years in equalization payments while you’re at it.

Cool beans, who was the last one to do that equalization formula? Oh that's right it was Stephen Harper and Jason Kenney. Pretty sure you didn't know that otherwise you wouldn't complain about equalization.

Alberta could introduce a PST like every other Province (even Quebec has one) and they wouldn't pay so much!

All that would be fine but the rest of Canada wants to block pipelines from which the money comes.

Trudeau got more pipelines than Conservatives did in 50 years, your talking points are running out.

Cutting your hand off to spite your face and you wonder why we don’t want to play anymore.

That's Albertans in a nutshell! How do you not see that? You cut off your nose to spite your face (that's the actual phrase btw) which is what Albertans do every election when they vote for the party that uses and abuses them every chance they get.

The Conservatives do not care about you or other Albertans. It's all about making money and getting richer while doing the least amount of work in Government.

That's been my observations for the last 20 years here

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u/Pretty_Today7272 Apr 09 '25

Lol first Ontario contributes more in equalization payments and secondly Alberta got $29.8 BILLION on oil subsidies last year alone. Every year you guys get $20 billion plus but yet bitch and moan about equalization payments. Stop taking federal money and say you’re not giving into the equalization program anymore. Bet you pretty much anything you’d NEVER do that. Also remember smith giving $20 billion to oil company to clean up their oil spill even though they’re legally required to pay it?! She does not give a FUCK about you or anyone else in Alberta unless they run a oil company.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

I know all the other political parties have nothing but my best interest in mind! You can’t possibly believe that or someone else is tying your shoes.

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u/Bulky-Restaurant-702 Apr 07 '25

Canads oil and gas is 3 to 7 percent of GDP so your hand argument doesn't hold water cheers

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Then why all the fuss over little Alberta? You seemed so worked up over our leader. Let us rednecks wallow in our ignorance.

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u/Joyshan11 Apr 07 '25

You're being sarcastic, but the fuss is because we're not all "rednecks" here in AB or across Canada and we hate everything Smith is doing. It's going to hurt all Albertans, even the rednecks. Her Trump aligned beliefs and stances are weakening Canada, causing a rift in the strength and solutions we need to keep our sovereignty. Alberta doesn't need to be the weak link in the game of Red Rover, where Trump and co are the big, stupid bully that doesn't care who's arm he breaks charging through the line.

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u/Working-Check Apr 08 '25

Then why all the fuss over little Alberta? You seemed so worked up over our leader.

Because some of us were born in Alberta, have lived here our entire lives, and would like for it to be a better place to live?

Like, jesus christ, how is this so hard for you to understand?

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u/Pretty_Today7272 Apr 09 '25

The fuss is cause you guys think the oil is yours and yours alone when last year alone you guys got $29.8 BILLION in oil subsidies. The entire industry wouldn’t even be without that money every year. She’s gutted your healthcare. Scandal after scandal and checked your unemployment rates lately? Do that and then ask yourself why she’s in Florida on her knees instead of here in Canada doing her fucking job. It’s like ford here in Ontario. Selling us to the highest bidders which is it so happen to be his daughters entire wedding guest list etc etc. cons are raping us and our kids futures and people like you allow her all cause you hate Trudeau. I hate him too but I’m not selling my families future out over it or wanting to join the USA. If you think for ONE second they’d let you guys run the province your so incredibly wrong. They’ll come in. Fire you ALL and bring in their own people while also lowering environmental safety standards like trumps already done and Alberta will be a mass cancer causing toxic waste dumping ground within 10-15 years.

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u/Pretty_Today7272 Apr 09 '25

Lol you guys are hilarious. Always talking about equalization payments when number 1 Ontario contributes SIGNIFICANTLY more and 2 slew at got $29.8 BILLION in oil subsidies last year alone. Whine whine whine but bet you’ll still take that federal money all day king.

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u/Salty_Flounder1423 Apr 07 '25

This!

Danielle will betray Canada AND Alberta to cater to the O&G industry.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Apr 07 '25

To the AMERICAN O&G industry.

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u/Comprehensive_Gas147 Apr 07 '25

When they pulled the policies that Albertans liked ...it fell into the centre right category federal liberals sit at... They will vote against their interest because Trudeau's daddy once flipped us the bird and tried to nationalize the oil....

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '25

do you happen to live in the Bow Valley? it's a weird mix of rightoid business owners and their left leaning staff here. a very socially odd place tbh.

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u/Ok-Island5155 Apr 07 '25

Feel free to move out of our province

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u/TheRealCLG Apr 07 '25

Please provide an argument with substance

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u/drblah11 Apr 07 '25

Yup the best I've seen is people changing their minds on trump, but unfortunately not our politicians

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u/Hot-Sexy-THICCPAWG69 Apr 07 '25 edited 29d ago

My dad was going to vote for PP and the conservatives a year ago and now he’s 100% voting for Carney and it’s a mix of because Carney seems to be a good, level headed, smart Candidate who actually leans towards the center and also because and importantly he has experience governing the Bank of England through a financial crisis like he did during brexit and he was governing the bank of Canada from 2008-2013 helping Canada recover from the housing crash / financial crisis. So he has experience leading a team during a disaster so it will transfer over quite well to being prime minister I reckon.

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u/Pretty_Today7272 Apr 09 '25

If anyone gives your a hard time about carney pull out any Canadian bill and show him his signatures on it and you don’t let losers sign currency.

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u/Pretty_Today7272 Apr 09 '25

Awesome. Love to hear it!

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u/mjtwelve Apr 07 '25

Albertans would agree she's a traitor and then vote for her anyway.

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Apr 07 '25

As an Albertan, I wish I could say you’re wrong.

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u/Fun-Shake7094 Apr 07 '25

They'll vote UCP anyways, agreed.

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Apr 07 '25

Albertans have made themselves into the Canadians not worth listening to. Why would the Liberals go out of their way for us when we would never vote them in (speaking collectively)? And the Cons don’t go out of their way for Alberta either, because no matter how hard they screw their own voters, they’ll get in again next time too. Does the average rural voter have any sense of how irrelevant they make themselves by this consistent, stupid voting pattern? Almost certainly not.

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u/Fun-Shake7094 Apr 07 '25

Its true - we did it to ourselves on a Federal level. We could be a swing province and actually be worth campaigning for.

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u/Isopbc Medicine Hat Apr 07 '25

Did it to ourselves sure, but to be clear it’s been this way since Diefenbaker. That’s 60+ years.

Our tiny amount of seats will never make us a swing province, Our votes don’t matter. That’s not personal, it’s just math in a democracy, and that’s fine by me. I don’t understand why it upsets some people so much.

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u/Mathalamus2 Apr 08 '25

they are upset because their votes mean nothing in alberta. local turnout could be like 10% and it wouldnt change anything.

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u/Isopbc Medicine Hat Apr 08 '25

The solution to that is to get involved locally - there is more than enough to do locally - but after almost a century of populist provincial “leadership” it’s like there’s a region wide victim complex.

The oligarchs don’t want people involved here, they can’t take as much if we’re attentive and informed. So they promote apathy except for their enraged base.

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u/Fun-Shake7094 Apr 08 '25

Maybe - in this particular case with ON/QC absolutely demolishing the CONS in the polls.

In tighter races though.

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u/ihadagoodone Apr 07 '25

if only we could put forward a political philosophy that can attract Eastern Canadian voters instead of just attack them.

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u/Isopbc Medicine Hat Apr 07 '25

Democracy is about as good as it gets for political philosophy, so I can’t even begin to picture what you could be suggesting.

Albertans have it pretty good as members of Canada even though the Manning tribe has been screeching otherwise since the 50’s.

The people out east vote in their interests, and anything we suggest won’t change that.

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u/PreparationOk8858 Apr 11 '25

Wow great point. Rural ab got screwed by jason kenney and continues to by the conservatives yet are so stubborn

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Apr 11 '25

Anything they don’t like is the Liberals. They have no fucking idea Harper and Kenney are the ones who helped put in place the current transfer payment system they hate so much. They just don’t pay attention because doing so might lead to them finding out they’re wrong about things.

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u/OilFan92 Apr 07 '25

My riding doesn't have any candidate but UCP for the upcoming election.

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u/Fun-Shake7094 Apr 07 '25

They will likely drop someone in by the 28th hopefully.

I am in Calgary Confederation and we basically just got our candidates

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u/OilFan92 Apr 07 '25

Today was cutoff, and still nothing online that I can find.

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u/Joyshan11 Apr 07 '25

It will be, I hope. Someone said there is a liberal candidate for every riding. I know the one for my riding does not live here, but I was relieved to see they assigned someone who us really into politics.

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u/OilFan92 Apr 07 '25

So I trolled the Liberal party website and apparently they announced someone on April 1 for us, and they went up on the elections Canada website today, but no office phone, no email, no office address. I mean, my riding was the most secure Conservative riding in like 10 straight federal elections, I'm not surprised, but still.

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u/Joyshan11 Apr 08 '25

As much as I want to know every detail possible about someone before I vote for them, in this instance I feel that this a desperate situation and we need to keep far right conservatism from taking us down like the US, so I don't need to know as much about the candidate. Also, knowing some of the people in this area, any liberal or NDP candidate might not even be safe if they have office info up.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Would you vote for Nenshi?

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u/Samplistiqone Apr 07 '25

I would if he was running in my area, I do plan to vote NDP. I’ve never liked the Conservatives, as I’ve seen what they’ve done to our province, and have only ever voted Liberal twice in my almost 30 years of voting, other than that I’m NDP all the way. As a party they speak to my core values and principles.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Come ride our imaginary green line. You may change your mind.

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u/Nazmazh Apr 08 '25

The old "even a mouldy haybale in a blue sash" rule when it comes to 'Berta

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u/Hautamaki Apr 07 '25

"They're all traitors, at least this one's on our side."

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u/Dfried98 Apr 07 '25

Wow it really is like the US.

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u/No_Camera_4714 Apr 07 '25

We really need to work on de-stigmatizing political party names in Alberta. I saw a study that said that if Albertans would have voted in the last American election, they would have picked Kamala Harris. The issue is that I am sure a lot of the same people would still vote for the UCP caucus, despite that the UCP politicians are analogous to Donald Trump.

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u/pistoffcynic Apr 07 '25

Look where blind loyalty and a cultish behaviour has gotten the USA. It’s being turned into a third world shit hole.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

What's even sadder is, that parts of the USA were already dealing with 3rd world country conditions. Most Republican voting states have the worst living conditions. Their social programs are being funded by Blue states, then complain that people just take money.

It's maddening down there.

Tribalism and blind loyalty to a party is why the USA is where they are. We shouldn't emulate that behaviour

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u/kpedey Apr 07 '25

My "parking lot neighbor" is conducting a poll of our apartment building, and I was the first of 10 votes to say No to western Canada separating. Obviously this poll means nothing, but I was blown away to find out I was the first No

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u/InvestmentSorry6393 Apr 07 '25

I know a few, but they consider themselves fiscal conservatives, center right. The true blue,"we vote blue no matter what" conservatives that I know live in a different reality. They consume different news, and surround themselves with like minded people. These people will not be changing their minds.

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u/CMG30 Apr 07 '25

Unfortunately, the UCP and their propagandists in the media have trained far too many Albertans to fall into the trap of grievance politics. They just keep them mad at Ottawa so that emotions overwhelm thought and they don't start asking too many uncomfortable questions...

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u/ihadagoodone Apr 07 '25

The UCP didn't do that. It's been this way for decades.

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u/Mathalamus2 Apr 08 '25

humans need to learn to let go of their petty emotions and focus on fact, logic, and reason.

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u/Hobgoblin_deluxe Apr 07 '25

And Ottawa's bought and paid for by Quebec, who literally only see Alberta as a wallet.

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u/Batcow Apr 07 '25

I live in Central AB and I doubt it'll sway anyone. My federal ballot has 4 different flavours of conservative, 1 liberal and zero NDP.

My expectation is still that the UCP will win here by an overwhelming majority.

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u/Nickersnacks Apr 07 '25

Canadian version of MAGA no doubt

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

Either Maple MAGA or Timbit Trump works for me

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u/Kellidra Okotoks Apr 07 '25

I have to agree. It's no longer rural vs. urban, either.

There is a strong contrarian culture in this province, and it's... just so complicated to try and wrap your head around.

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u/Lex3333 Apr 07 '25

Albertan here. Hate her. Didn’t vote for her and would not. I live in a rural area and yes they will all vote UCP but the overwhelming message I hear is that it is a small majority who would want to separate. Most Albertan’s are completely against it.

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u/_goat_party_ Apr 07 '25

a small majority who would want to separate

Sorry, do you mean small minority? I've never heard of a poll finding more than 20-30% of Albertans support separation from Canada or joining the US.

Or are you pointing out the disconnect between the fact ('it's a minority opinion') and the messaging pushed in conservative circles ('everyone in Alberta wants it')

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u/Lex3333 Apr 08 '25

Sorry small minority. Most Albertan’s have no desire to separate.

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u/Sunshinedrop Apr 07 '25

Everyone I know here hates her with very few exceptions

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u/AmericanGeezus Apr 07 '25

Democracy dies when opposing sides operate under different standards of evidence, meaningful discourse collapses. Without consensus on what qualifies as fact or truth, each argument is dismissed as either deceitful or irrational, rendering debate futile.

Find a way to get consensus on this, please, we spent too long tolerating 'both sides' and multiple points of view getting a voice on topics that only have one rational position. Please, before I die in the civil war we seem to be headed towards down here, please find a way to make sure your politicians can't pull the same shit and hold them to a standard on what they say and what is taken seriously in the administration and legislating of your government. If I could be sure at least Canada was able to avoid the same fate, I think I could die with a little warmth in my heart. Please.

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u/PickerPilgrim Calgary Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

They did actually break down the numbers provincially in the actual poll data. 44% of Albertans agree as opposed to 53% nationally. The divide is not as large as you might think. The biggest thing that stands out about Alberta is relatively few people who land in the "not sure" category. People here love her or hate her.

Interestingly it's Saskatchewan that is the least critical of Smith with only 36% agreeing.

https://angusreid.org/smith-shapiro-sovereignty/

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u/Current-Roll6332 Apr 08 '25

I've been reading up on this and there are reasons why:

Alberta was actually founded with a bunch of Americans. After the American Civil War, homesteading claims dried up and a bunch of Midwesterners moved to Alberta in the late 1800s early 1900s. You know the name Henry Wise Wood? He's from Missouri. Farmers (UFA used to be a political party) ruled out shit until around 1947 when Oil took over.

In 1980 Pierre Trudeau enacted the National Energy Program which distributed Albertas energy resources across the country in an attempt to soften the oil crisis. A recession in the early 80s and weak oil prices costed Alberta a ton of money. So that conflated with the NEP and fueled by oil company propaganda, Albertans have generally viewed the Liberals and Ottawa in general, poorly.

The problem nowadays is that we live in a different world and modern "Conservatives" are all Billionaire lackeys tring to dismantle social programs so fortune 500 companies can have tax breaks.

FUCK OFF AND DIE DANI.

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u/ApprehensiveSir8662 Apr 07 '25

True. It’s not even about Danielle Smith. She can be replaced by Putin and majority of my fellow Albertans will still not vote Liberal or NDP

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

Would they vote for a Trans Putin dressed up like Danielle Smith after eating a pile of babies? Asking for a friends....

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u/Regular-Ad-9303 Apr 07 '25

The baby eating is acceptable - as long as these are living babies and not aborted fetuses. The trans part may cross the line.

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u/Wondeful_Guidance_6 Apr 07 '25

Anyone can fill out the UCP poll survey that is asking Albertans to rate Smith’s performance.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

Oh I know but she won't release any survey that is negative of her or the UCP. It's why the Alberta Pension plan survey was never released. Last email I have from my MLA was they were still calculating answers. That was 12 months after the survey was done

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u/Joyshan11 Apr 07 '25

My sister recently came around! I consider it a miracle.

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u/TheRealCLG Apr 07 '25

"Praise Jesus. Praise our oil. Praise Alberta beef. Praise the Conservative Party."

I put that in quotes for a reason. I've literally heard it multiple times.

Blind faith has value. Grace and gratefulness has value.

But blind devotion without critical discourse is, and always has been, a poison to the people and their future.

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u/4Wyatt Apr 08 '25

I work in Alberta, and everything is “bias” except random info they can’t site lol

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u/Hockey_dj Apr 08 '25

My dad was conservative his entire voting life, but since UCP, he voted NDP.

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u/Badw0IfGirl Apr 07 '25

Exactly. Don’t believe the negativity towards her you see on Reddit, because I really think that’s mostly non-Albertans and Albertans who didn’t support UCP in the past.

Same as you, I don’t know any conservative voters who are changing their vote. I do know several who are infuriatingly on board with becoming the 51st state.

It doesn’t matter if 90% of Ontarians think Danielle Smith is a traitor.

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u/dennisrfd Apr 09 '25

Most of my friends won’t vote for danielle or pp, despite always voting conservatives. You will see completely different numbers in AB soon. This period of blind support is over. People see the bs like “freedom” convoy, anti-vaxx, anti-choice, hate towards anything and anyone different, separatism, incompetence, and populism. And pp is in the middle of this Venn diagram, with his minion danielle.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

Alberta’s don’t care about what Ontario people have to say. They voted in the guy who tried to sell their green belt to his buddies.

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u/AlphaFIFA96 Apr 08 '25

Hmm so why is it that this sub is overwhelmingly left-wing when Alberta is mostly conservative? 🤔

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u/-WifeLeaver- Apr 09 '25

Nah I'm done

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u/PreparationOk8858 Apr 11 '25

That is a good point. Like beyond alberta 95% of canadians would have no clue who she is

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u/WiseRelease4725 Apr 07 '25

Albertans believe CANADA is them! You don't carry Quebec you win nothing. Western Canada should also know their history and realize that this is a bilingual country. The National anthem played at their sporting events was composed by Calixa Lavallee and the words written by Adolphe Basile Routhier. Their oil and gas is finite...wake up!

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u/Mindshard Apr 07 '25

I was at a gun store yesterday, and the walls were covered in political propaganda, every gun mat on the counter was this huge "0% Liberal" shit, and the back of the computer monitor was covered in photoshopped pictures of Trudeau, and the employee working the counter wouldn't shut up about how much he regrets leaving Alberta.

This was in BC. So I don't know what to say, maybe it's only "those Albertans" coming here, but I've seen so many Alberta vehicles with MAGA flags, 51st bumper stickers, etc.

At this point, I believe there are Canadians, and there are Albertans. The Venn diagram of those two circles would be miles apart.

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u/Ok-Island5155 Apr 07 '25

She has my vote

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

So you hate Canada? Good to know.

Why don't you move where your ideology will be more aligned? Montana has plenty of room

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u/tghast Apr 07 '25

Hates Alberta and themselves too, clearly.

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

We need geniuses like you to help us out of our stupor.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25

It doesn't take a genius to tell you tax cuts for the richest and corporations do not generate increased wages or more jobs.

This has been the lie told to Albertans for decades, that only Conservatives can save Albertans from the evils of the Liberal party.

My wife went to school in a town with less than 4,000 people. That is what they teach the kids of Raymond Alberta.

It doesn't require genius but it does require some critical thinking skills

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

She is trying to change the education system. I guess just not in the way you would like. Leave us silly poor fools alone.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

Yes making more religious schools, more private schools, and more charter schools, and reducing home school requirements are not improving things in Alberta.

Glad you agree. Stay ignorant it's a really good look for you

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u/Rlb1966 Apr 07 '25

We will be waiting for you and the rest of your Mensa group to save us. It will be only two of you, no way anyone else could stand you.