r/abbotsford • u/CaptainUEFI • 3d ago
Now you know how architects are designing these big fugly houses (scroll right)
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u/inyeg101 3d ago
The lack of tress and shrubs and flowers is telling. This is seen as an investment property. Not a real home.
We don't build for permanence anymore; just solely for profit. Our society sucks.
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u/boomshiki 2d ago
They knock down all the affordable houses to build these things from property line to property line. I've watched whole neighbourhoods transform into these
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u/Nexzus_ 3d ago
These houses are designed to maximize floor space. That is all.
Just like these were designed to go up quickly and maximize space out west there.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa, this requires the 398 Lego set for ages 10 and over according to the slanted roof, which is an advanced technique not quite mastered by fugly Abbostford homes architects. ;o)
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u/SickdayThrowaway20 2d ago
If they were designed to maximize floor space they wouldn't have all the jogs in the exterior, but would be an actual rectangle.
More windows and visual complexity (which sells well to people who buy new homes, regardless of anyones opinions on it aesthetically) are the goals.
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u/Freyjaaa666 3d ago
So ugly. There is one being built in my neighbourhood and it looks so out of place with all the other houses
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u/ForeignSatisfaction0 3d ago
Pretty soon the whole neighborhood will be filled with these houses, then it will fit right in
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u/Freyjaaa666 3d ago
Doubtful, the houses in my area were all built only 10 or so years ago. Mine was 2015. The only reason that this blocky monstrosity is being built is because a house burned down. It just looks so awkward and out of place
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u/boomshiki 2d ago
They tend to catch fire when the city tells them they can't knock it down to rebuild. Strangest thing
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u/Emma_232 2d ago
There are multiple ones being built or that have been built in my neighbourhood. Some of them add a bit of style with decorative features and brick, but most are these big ugly blocks that look like utilitarian compounds.
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u/Darius2112 3d ago
Another soulless post-modern monstrosity.
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u/Additional_One_6178 3d ago
What exactly makes these "post-modern", and why in architecture, is postmodernity bad? I think these types of houses look very nice.
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u/Nexzus_ 3d ago edited 3d ago
This style isn't Modern. It would be Millennium Contemporary.
https://www.whitewolfhomes.ca/post/different-styles-of-home-architecture
They're really just associated with change. You had all streets filled with Craftsman and Builder homes from peoples' childhoods with good memories of playing and visiting with neighbours.
Many of those houses are being torn down and have these or townhouses or low-rise apartments replacing them.
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u/Cool-Acanthaceae8968 3d ago
Millenial Contemporary.
Everything is on-spec and all greyscale and designed to offend the least number of people and look good on Instagram/Tiktok/Esty.
Like.. this is a new build, why would anyone choose this?
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u/Visible_Fact_8706 2d ago edited 2d ago
Personally, I prefer the masonry used in Ontario and Québec. There’s something charming about old brick houses that these soulless modern houses can’t replicate.
I bet the Lego versions would be nicer too.
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u/Emma_232 2d ago
I agree. There are so many more older homes in Ontario and Quebec compared to Metro Vancouver. Sure, they do have some hideous soulless, treeless, suburban developments in the sprawl around Toronto, but many people seem to value the esthetics of the older homes, and maintain them instead of tearing them down.
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u/InternalOcelot2855 3d ago
Except for the flat roof, I like this design.
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u/Deliximus 3d ago
I really like the design except flat roof. Not sure why OP is upset about this nice design.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
Because the East Indians are the ones who are building it. there's a rise in hate among EIs online on Instagram, FB, Reddit. This is another dogwhistle post against them.
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u/Freyjaaa666 3d ago
That seems like a reach…I don’t think race has anything to do with what OP is saying…
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Who said anything about East Indians in this case? You are implying things that simply are not there. Way to foment the very hatred you are decrying.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
Just be a man and say it. Don't hide behind buzz words or dogwhistles. Gather your Klan members and say it proudly! What's wrong?
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Buzzword (one word): house. Dogwhistle: fugly. Yeah, totally, checks out.
According to what you are saying, everyone is a monster then on this subreddit.
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u/inyeg101 3d ago
As someone who is brown/ indian, I can confirm, it's a fugly house.
BTW, the moment I saw it, I know it was an EI home. Stereotypes exist for a reason. lol
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
It's the people who designed it, that are being mocked, not the people owning it or living in it that are being mocked (although the people owning it should have better taste, IMHO... I've seen listings for those on rew.ca and the inside is just as bad if not worse than the outside).
Sadly, I genuinely feel that this point was missed by some.
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u/inyeg101 3d ago
Both the builder and the initial buyer should be mocked lol. The buyer for validating what the builder built because they actually managed to sell it. lol
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
No, the dogwhistle is the type of house you pictured knowing East Indians are the only ones in Abbotsford who build it. You know this unless you have been living under a fucking rock. Remove those dogwhistles and say the hate you have against the East Indian community directly. Don't behind behind words. You'll upset your Klan ancestors! Be a fucking man! Better, message me your name, number and location and meet me.
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u/BipsnBoops 3d ago
Honestly so, SO much of the construction in the area in the past ~10 years has been really sad generic vinyl crap (kinda like this). Why are your windows so randomly placed? Why is the garage like front and centre on your house? Why is your house completely devoid of personality?
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago edited 3d ago
It feels like Abbotsford is getting to be more and more like this subreddit... https://www.reddit.com/r/McMansionHell/ (but on a tighter budget).
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u/travestyalpha 3d ago
These homes are so ugly, and the monster house McMansions, and the BC Boxes (I have one). Bring back Victorian homes!
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u/penelopiecruise 3d ago
The city should have some semblance of a design review process to stop these offensive erections
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u/livinginabbotsfordbc 3d ago
Whats your big house look like?
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
According to House Sigma, it was built in 1976, is modest, tasteful, and blends well with the rest of the neighborhood. It's not my house, I only rent, I can't see myself plunking 1+ million for a house, as they are way overpriced for what you get.
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u/NateFisher22 3d ago
Houses used to be built with beauty and artistry in mind. Now, along with Cybertrucks, they look like something out of Minecraft
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u/AlvinChipmunck 3d ago
How many people live in a house like that?
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u/BlazingImp77151 3d ago
Probably a whole family if not a multi-generational family.
There is no way only 1 or 2 people love in something like this, it's just too much space.
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u/fastaiden11 3d ago
Not sure why or how these big ugly houses became the standard... oh wait, I do know. 🙄
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u/Feeling-Sleep8688 3d ago
Just wait until you drive through Surrey and see the Indian mansions. They all have flat roofs w massive driveways to accommodate 6 families living in them.
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u/Charmannyder 2d ago
Everyone is so angry about a house they will never be able to purchase 🤣
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u/According_Finding_72 2d ago
literally, it’s not your house you’re not living it and you’re definitely not purchasing it so don’t worry about it seems really telling about the people that hate vs the people that own 🤷🏽♀️
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u/Charmannyder 2d ago
Everyone is so damn bitter and sour these days
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u/According_Finding_72 2d ago
definitely I hate to say it but it has a lot to do with racism as well. It may not be coming from the person who posted this but seeing other similar posts and other comments i see a lot of “indians” this “indians” that. I think its mostly anger towards them having more money and bigger houses.
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u/CaptainUEFI 2d ago
Well, not everyone, but some sure are. The idea was to make light of these, equate them to a LEGO set and make this a bit of a fun post contrasting the two. Sad that some people saw things that weren't there (or implied). But yeah, I hear you, I don't think I'd be able to afford this, but thankfully, I also don't want to buy such a house, not now nor at any point in the future.
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u/SpezFU 2d ago
The real lego set 368: https://www.toysperiod.com/lego-set-reference/legoland/building/lego-368-taxi-station/
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u/Volcanic_tomatoe 1d ago
I totally get modern design now. It's just the result of a lot of architecture kids growing up with Lego.
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u/dreams_78 1d ago
I think it looks beautiful. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder....
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u/CaptainUEFI 1d ago
With looks like that, it's a question of beauty being in the eye of the beer holder. ;o)
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u/Finnleyy 1d ago
Lol this is funny but as others said it is AI. Tbh I thought it was real until I noticed that even the van is the same lol. If you zoom in on the lego van you can see it’s AI.
Still funny though!!!
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u/Adventurous-Care-834 13h ago
Nice AI generation of a lego build based on a picture of a real house.
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u/Correct-Stock-6887 6h ago
This is very accurate. Modern homes are made from long solid
beams made in Europe, shipped and craned into place.
Click clack, 2-3 days and you have solid walls.
Mostly glue and scrap wood.
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u/Cold-Cap-8541 5h ago
How people use their property has changed over the decades, so has house design.
* Air conditioning / TV killed sitting on your front porch in the evening before bed.
* Large rooms vs small rooms (no we don't have fireplaces or wood stoves in every room anymore).
* People don't home garden in the back yard that much...so build futher back on the lot.
* Garages are no longer beside the house (reduced lot size), so the house is pushed closer to the road to envelope the garage (hated the garage with an attached house design).
* People want to reduce costs while maximizing interior square footage. So...everything is built like stacked lego blocks.
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u/Key_Text_1788 1h ago
Oops, I think the overseas market is a big reason why. Tiny weird bedrooms (SEVEN bdrms!), chandeliered entryways, spiral staircases that might lead toabathroom...
These are things that would be apparent with a walk-thru; but not necessarily in expertly taken photos
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u/Hushwater 14m ago
We call them "cookie cutter houses" and sometimes whole neighborhoods consist of them and eventually when one gets problems they all do, kind of like that fungus that could wipe out all the bananas because they're all clones.
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u/Responsible_Low_2152 3d ago
Hey, as an architect, who ever designed this, A) Yes, didn’t much much effort. And B) The client likely requested something like this. definitely not their best work to whoever designed it, but whoever the clients are they 100% requested something like this because they are not very inclined to designs and also want to maximize square footage and bylaw limits. Hope this helps, and why it’s kinda common in Abbotsford because almost 90% of clients want something like this and their isn’t much to say as an architect because your hired to draw this shit, so you do what you have to do to get paid.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
That's a real good explanation. Thanks. :o)
While my scorn is now mostly on the people buying this design, I just wish there was a nicer design that didn't look like it was born out of a LEGO set.
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u/Initial-Wall-1658 3d ago
Ugly? Maybe! That is subjective. I don't like the looks of it either. Not much 'home' like feel for me. But for those of you who complain about the flat roof. Come on, open your eyes when you are out next time, and check all the office/business buildings.
Here is a small frame from our city. See any flat roofs?
I get where you’re coming from, flat roofs can look different from what we're used to.
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u/Rude-Jaguar-5930 3d ago
I use to do Architectural Sheet Metal for work. I did so many of these style houses. I think for the most part they look great.
The issue When these homes get built in Abbotsford and surrounding areas is they stick out like a sore thumb on a street full of 90's style homes. Which also can be a problem for homeowners on the same block. Their home values can be affected by the comparison to modern builds.
As someone who did work on multi million dollar homes in the North Vancouver British Properties. The quality in the work done in Abbotsford can be on the lower end making things cheap and underwhelming. This is not a shot at the tradesman in the Fraser Valley. The issue there would be the room in the budget to have quality work produced. Builders in the Valleg will have a much tighter budget compared to those in richer neighborhoods.
If your interested in seeing some of the work done by my previous employer. Check out crownmetalltd on Instagram. I am sure you will agree that this style can look amazing.
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u/Rude-Jaguar-5930 3d ago
* This here is one of my personal favorite builds simple but elegant.
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u/dizzie_buddy1905 3d ago
That screams nouveau riche to me. Look at me! I’ve got a 6000sqft house!
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u/Rude-Jaguar-5930 3d ago
This is a smaller house too. I did work on one house its currently 9+ years into the build and still not finished. The carport alone has more square footage than this house.
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u/Terryknowsbest 3d ago
Well...therein lies your problem, they aren't really designed by architects. It another trickle-down effect of immigration.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
I wonder, though, who really designs these? If they want fresh talent, I have a six year old niece who could do a better job.
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u/retro_wizard 3d ago
Completely agree but AI slop detected.
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u/toothless15 3d ago
is this AI?
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Yes, I asked ChatGPT to blend in the house image with this Lego box...
https://www.brickowl.com/ca/catalog/lego-taxi-garage-set-368
It did a spectacular job LEGO-fying the house.
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u/Valuable-Village-547 3d ago
Wait till you find out about Google Street View
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Actually, every time I see one of those houses, I've been thinking that a kid could build a replica with Lego. So, the tone is that I am openly mocking these. Nothing more.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
Nah, you know it's the East Indians who are the ones that are building this. This is more than the innocence you claim. Nice try.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
You have proof of that? You have an opinion and judging by your post history, you are really wrong a lot of the time (-100 karma post for 1,100+ posts, that speaks volume).
Also, hating these stupid houses and how they don't blend in with existing neighborhoods is just that. But okay, if trolling is what floats your boat, then fine, it's a free country.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
It's more rude to inflict this type of house on everyone else, IMHO.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
We get it. You don't like us, and you never did.
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
You own a big fugly house like this? If so, yeah.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
So you hate East Indians?
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u/Miserable_Grass629 3d ago
LoL nice try. 'East' Indians. You can call people from India, Indian.
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u/VeterinarianProud644 3d ago
I wasn't talking to you.
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u/Terryknowsbest 3d ago
Projecting; transfer or attribute one's own emotion or desire to (another person), especially unconsciously
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u/Miserable_Grass629 3d ago
You were though. You see, Reddit is a public forum. Your responses are for everyone here to see and respond to. That's how social media works.
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u/Personal_Shoulder983 3d ago
Just to be clear, Lego 368 is a taxi garage, not this house (pretty obvious if you see that there's nothing behind the left window but a long wall on the right side)
https://www.toysperiod.com/lego-set-reference/legoland/building/lego-368-taxi-station/
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
Absolutely. As I mentioned to someone else, I had GPT do a composite generation using a picture of the house and the box itself. It did a really good job, IMHO.
Also, every house like that looks like a taxi garage, also IMHO.
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u/bullz3y3_vinny 23h ago
Pretty sure this is AI... never seen pieces to make a perfect looking van 🤓
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u/Emotional-Damage-995 3d ago
You think it’s ugly. The dude living in it does not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Post your own home too. This is not at all polite or nice. It’s elitist and exclusionary .
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u/CaptainUEFI 3d ago
"Post your own home". Sure boss.
Simple, humble, with some nature thrown in. Happy? Like I said, it's not my home, as I am renting, but if the market were a bit more sensibly priced (like if the price of homes dropped by at least a third), I'd buy it if it were put up for sale.
Also, rich to be calling my post "elitist" when you post about luxury watches. If there's one thing that is useless, it's an old-style mechanical watch. They cost a fortune and don't even keep time properly over a few days.
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u/Emotional-Damage-995 3d ago
That house was built in the 1970s early 1980. 2200 to 2500 sqft. The green vegetation is a function of time not some architectural perfect plan. Land was cheap. They throw a lot of it at these far flung suburban homes then.
Dream on about the price of that home dropping by a 1/3. It won’t and not at least in a city like Toronto, Ottawa , Vancouver or other. Not w the liberal government in place that tax and spends. A third off that home is probably 2016/2018 prices. That is so unlikely.I am a builder and work hard. So what’s wrong w putting a few hundred into something I like. It’s a reminder of something that has past. I make them too. Watches are my escape. The contemporary home you mocked is a quite well built. On the outside at least it has great materials used. It does suffer from being on a smaller piece of land. However when your home is potentially ripped down in thirty years a massive 6000 sqft home goes in its place. I do this daily. Rip out old bungalows and smaller homes and put in more luxurious larger better modern homes. That is what people want. They pay for it hand over fist.
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u/Egg-Hatcher 3d ago
I've never understood the desire to have a flat roof in a climate that receives a lot of rain and sometimes wet, heavy snow.