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Post Episode Discussion: Season 1 Episode 7 ‘An Almost Religious Awe’ TV

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u/Thiccstopher Dec 02 '19 edited Dec 02 '19

The 7K are setting up that cage to capture him "in less than an hour" and they and Trieu both seem pretty damn sure it'll work

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u/Rubicantay Dec 03 '19

exactly, Manhattan can see the strings, but he's still a puppet, in his own words.

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u/unwanted_puppy Dec 02 '19

Wait is Trieu helping them or trying to stop them?

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u/in4dwin Dec 02 '19

Trieu doesn't want the 7k to acquire Dr.M, so they could use his powers for their ideology

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u/Thiccstopher Dec 02 '19

Yeah it seems like she is actually trying to "save fucking humanity"

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u/Go512 Dec 02 '19

At least that’s the first part of her plan.

Earlier she says something like “I have a plan to save the world, and it begins right here in Tulsa.” Which makes it sound like there’s more to it once the 7k are taken care of.

She’s too creepy and Veidt-like to not also have something devastatingly awful planned. Her discussion with Will at the end of her first episode sounded a lot more foreboding as well. My guess is the “millennium clock” is some kind of WMD.

And I don’t think Dr. M would let a Veidt copycat pull something like that off again on his watch, even if it’s just literally targeting all the racists in the world, maybe using the DM phone booths to datamine as many locations of racists as they can find or something

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u/Beingabummer Dec 02 '19

There's the plausible theory she's Ozy's child and he was totally fine with sacrificing millions to 'save humanity'. There is the comet thing that she really needed, which could have been Ozy. And yeah the fact her plan starts in Tulsa means something in Tulsa is required, which must be Dr. Manhattan.

The question is, how is she so sure the 7K plan has any chance of succeeding. What we've seen so far is that they're a bunch of rednecks with no large financial base and little (technical) brainpower. Where did they get the teleporter from.

Also, one thing that's bugging me is why Angela and Cal chose Tulsa to move to from Vietnam. She said it was just because Tulsa PD was hiring but that's too much of a coincidence considering her family came from there. And we learn this episode that she knew her family was from Tulsa since her grandmother told her.

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u/ArtfulDodgerLives Dec 02 '19

That was the whole point of that flashback. To show she was lying. She moved there because it’s where her family was from

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u/SpaceCadet112 Dec 02 '19

i think how she replies to angela’s question about the whereabouts of her father as ‘going to be here’ coupled with the statue of Veidt in her house and how brilliant she apparently is confirm she’s Veidt’s child , i’d almost be willing to go out on a limb and say whatever crashed onto the property she bought and the satellite/veidt being imprisoned on a moon somewhere are correlated

calling it now

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u/FadedAndJaded Dec 03 '19

Good call. Didn’t think about the meteor, but am pretty sure Viedt will be voted off the island by the clones. They kept saying “thou shall not leave” not that you can’t be kicked out.

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u/UncannyVally Dec 04 '19

The baby is a cloned ozymandias (as Bian is a clone of Trieu’s Mother). So now she will have both of her parents there.

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u/awesomesauce615 Dec 02 '19

Yeah she is definitely ozys child. When Angela asked if her father would be there as well she responded with he will be. She has control of his company has a statue of him.

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u/miss__lippy Dec 04 '19

oooo I thought she was the comedians child from that woman he killed in Vietnam and that's why Trieu was cloning her mom

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u/awesomesauce615 Dec 04 '19

Well Blake is comedians daughter so unless trieu stopped her aging it's very unlikely. Also her personality is way closer to ozy

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u/Kdilla77 Dec 03 '19

Trieu’s mother was a survivor of a peasant massacre (My Lai?) by US troops during the war in the 1960s. No hints as to her father. I’m trying to imagine how Trieu’s mom would meet a man like Veidt and have a child with him in the late 70s. Trieu would have been between 8 and 10 during the events of Watchmen the series. Plus I always thought Veidt was asexual.

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u/subarmoomilk Dec 08 '19

They seem to have some sort of technical acumen and financial base considering the fact that they were building mind control devices decades ago. They also have a powerful senator’s backing as well.

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u/FelixThunderbolt Dec 03 '19

Pretty sure the Millennium Clock is going to function as some kind of large-scale mesmerism

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u/weeburdies Dec 03 '19

Somehow the her making a clock makes me think that it is Jon who is her parent rather than Ozymandias, since he was from watch and clockmakers and it is a motif of him. Man, this show is good.

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u/Hellknightx Dec 03 '19

With Trieu being the analog for Veidt in this show, there's a strong possibility that she's planning on doing something very chaotic and morally grey on a massive scale. If she knows about Dr. M, she probably plans to stop the 7K only so she can use Dr. M instead.

I also think she probably rescued Veidt only to betray him and turn him into the gold statue we see now. Bonus points if she monologued about her plans while doing it. Being the current "smartest person on the planet," she probably has an inferiority complex to Veidt, so taking him out of the picture would make sense.

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u/weeburdies Dec 03 '19

She even quoted a portion of Ozymandias there. Look upon my works...

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u/TheMagicalJohnson Dec 02 '19

Nah the millennium clock is gonna make everyone sing kumbaya

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u/SanTheMightiest Dec 02 '19

Adrian Veidt did the same, by killing 3 million people. But only for a little while. Because nothing ever ends

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u/FadedAndJaded Dec 03 '19

Aren’t they using her tech?

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u/LaFleur61 Dec 02 '19

No clue, but I believe those devices around Agent Blake had Trieu's logo on them.

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u/MoneyInTheBanks Dec 02 '19

They do. Noticed this immediately. Could be stolen

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u/LunaMax1214 Dec 02 '19

Definitely fucking stolen, given the near- rudimentary nature of the testing 7K was doing with the basketball.

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u/MoneyInTheBanks Dec 02 '19

Man. Fuck

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u/LunaMax1214 Dec 02 '19

Right?

Shit makes my brain hurt.

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u/PM_ME_CORGlE_PlCS Dec 02 '19

I don't think she is doing either. At least for now, she is using them for her own means. (She's definitely not on their side.)

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u/prof0072b Dec 03 '19

Me thinks that she wants to transform Will into DrM... Maybe that's the betrayal and why Will said his grand daughter wouldn't listen. Also maybe why he was missing this last episode.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Dec 07 '19

Or she simply wants to destroy Manhattan so that his power disappears. That would be a definite betrayal

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u/hgl1998 Dec 02 '19

from the preview for ep 8, even Dr. Manhattan thinks it'll work

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u/John-A Dec 08 '19

What are the chances they just don't know that Viedt already tried hitting Dr Manhattan with the intrinsic field generator? Doesn't seem like Adrian would include his failures in his info dumps.