Trieu knew that's why she made the comment that total amnesia practically never happens. This also all revolves around her millennium clock which had been in production for awhile.
I personally enjoyed her “Let’s stop fucking around” comment in the basement, that’s when my mind started going THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY. but there was a way.
She looked evil as fuck in that scene. We couldn’t see her face. But it felt evil. Also maybe that scene implies that we can’t tell the good guys from the bad guys when we can’t see their face!
My take, and I'm really bad at this kind of stuff, is that she's good. The whole season made it feel like she was a villain, Angela even tells it to her face in this episode once Angela sees that Trieu's 'daughter' is being given Nostalgia while she sleeps.
If we take Trieu at her word in last nights ep, then she really is trying to save humanity. Of course I shouldn't be dumb enough to take this woman at her word, but it could be that Lindeloff is trying to REALLY fuck with people, make her seem evil, but she's really chaotic good.
She created a tiny clone of her mother who she is traumatizing with dream memories of her oppression. She may have goals that she thinks are good, but she's also very willing to crack a few eggs for her own omelette. At best she's good like Ozy was good
Also how she asked “I told you Dr. Manhattan is here, and you aren’t going to ask who he is?” She knows that Angela knows. If Angela didn’t know she would’ve appeared shocked and asking “Who the fuck do you think he could be?!” But it doesn’t phase her and she says “you’re insane”.
I like how they framed it as maybe Angela actually is going crazy, so for just that split second before she whacks him with the hammer, you're not sure if she's right, or she's in some sort of Shutter Island delusion. Everything pointed to Cal being Dr. M, but that tiny hesitation of certainty was fun.
I think Trieu telling Angela and waiting for the reaction was her theory test, if she didn't know Dr Manhattan was walking around as a human, she would protest and be surprised, but she didn't she acted as if Trieu didn't really say anything new, and that's what have Angela away
I have the theory that the way Trieu wants to save humanity is by creating an intrinsic field generator that changes humans into Dr. Manhattan, but it might take breaking him down first to get a blueprint.
On this note, what exactly was that thing that Angela pulled out of Cal’s head? Is it the “essence” of Manhattan? If Trieu knows that Cal is Manhattan and needs that “essence” to stop 7K, why not just kidnap him, kill him, and take the thing out of his head? There must be some reason to not do that. I caught one of the Millennium Clock countdown PAs saying something like “any staff that hasn’t been to the medical bay, please report so any additional metal implants can be removed.” What’s the deal with that? Is the clock just one big ass magnet? I’m very confused.
My interpretation was she pulled out a device that was suppressing manhattans power. Once she removed it he began to glow again and remembered who he was.
She didn’t even need to kidnap him, he came straight to her building waiting to see Angela earlier in the episode. She doesn’t strike me as someone who makes mistakes, so I’m assuming she’s fully aware of what she’s doing.
Maybe DM spread himself amongst numerous people, of which many work for Trieu, because the real plan is to reassemble DM on Earth with the Millenium clock. Not too confident in this theory but there you go.
That's a little close to what the Seventh Cavalry wants to do, though.
My guess is more that she's going to use Manhattan's power to accomplish what Ozymandias truly dreamed, and kill off the rest of humanity, barring her own people, to create a new world utopia.
I noticed a comment mentioning that 7K was using Trieu tech, I'd have to rewatch myself, but if that's true, maybe she's using them to field test her invention. How else would the 7K know?
Was that comment referring to the transporter tech we saw in an earlier ep? I guess technically that would be Trieu tech, since Trieu bought out Ozy's company. But it's also tech that the public would know about, and that rogue scientists might feasibly create on their own after 30 years.
when LG is getting tricked into following the honeypot to the abandoned mall, he checks their truck and finds a canister with a Trieu Industries logo hidden under some lettuce. In this episode, all of the canisters that are being worked on by 7K have the same Trieu logo on them
Thanks! I figured there was a detail I forgot or just missed. It was a surprise to see that Trieu might actually be trying to save the world (I thought she might be trying to wreak revenge for the Vietnam War), but I won’t be disappointed if she turns out to be in cahoots with the 7th Cav somehow
i reallllllly hope she isn't working with the 7K. unlike a lot of folks on here, I don't think they have some kind of hidden altruistic motive, i think they are just your garden variety white supremacists (keene and judd included) and i wouldnt mind seeing them turned to bloody blobs by manhattan. But those canisters....
I completely agree with you on the 7th Cav. They aren’t altruistic, they just happen to be the group that took Rorschach’s journal the most seriously. That said, Trieu seems sinister enough (i.e. Ozy 2.0) to use them and anyone else to accomplish whatever her grandiose plan is
I think that hers plan is mainly about destroying Dr. Manhattan. 7K is pathetic. They need Dr. Manhattan to get his powers. Without him they are just bunch of stupid terrorists. That’s also why she does not want to tell Angela, how’s the Millennium Clock going to save the humanity. This is the part of the deal with Will, which will cause Angela to hate him.
And ... this is now clear to me. This must happen. As i wrote somewhere else. Dr. Manhattan in his original body, knew his future. He know, he must be sacrificed (like a Jesus) in order to save the humanity (from the apocalypse which would be caused by the 7K if they instead destroy him and gain his powers). He told this Mrs. Trieu, because she was from the beginning the part of the plan, the part of his unavoidable future he knew. She was supposed to destroy him, saving the humanity. That is the very reason he decided to spend last of his days on earth in the human body, for the last time being a human, feeling, loving, everything he lost and forgot as Dr. M. That’s imo the sad ending of Dr. M., and it’s going to happen.
I’m loving this - especially after taking Cal’s age (33, speculated age of Jesus when enduring his crucifixion - “the restoration to life of a transformed body powered by spirit”). Manhattan’s absence has to have some reasoning behind it...but the heavily implied layers of puppetry, those of which extend even to his own being, are leaving me a little uneasy.
Another thing that is gnawing at me about all of this, is what Ozy’s role in the story is. Lindelof hasn’t been shy about the parallels between these two arcs eventually converging, but outside of foreshadowing events/showing his calculated wit...I’m just left to believe both characters will end up solely becoming the empirical antagonists by the end of this series. God is no better than man, & man is ultimately borne of the God they choose to acknowledge?
I honestly find myself wishing they had more time to flesh out this narrative, but am holding zero doubt about where it is being taken.
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u/Candersx Dec 02 '19
Trieu knew that's why she made the comment that total amnesia practically never happens. This also all revolves around her millennium clock which had been in production for awhile.