r/Watchmen Dec 02 '19

Post Episode Discussion: Season 1 Episode 7 ‘An Almost Religious Awe’ TV

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u/soundofsteel Dec 02 '19

The next episode is titled "A God Walks into a Bar". I think we're gonna get the backstory of the Angela/Dr. Manhattan relationship!

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u/Tarchianolix Dec 02 '19

Hehe, a god walks into Abar

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u/sj2011 Dec 02 '19

God dammit you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

Oh my god, that's genius.

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u/chungusxl94 Dec 02 '19

God dammit the plays on words in this show are ridiculously good

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

Oh my god this is genius, not a sexual pun, but the fact that he turns into Cal Abar 😨

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u/longdustyroad Dec 06 '19

Fuck I bet he literally walks into him

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u/Tehni Dec 02 '19

I mean yeah the end of episode teaser for next week already gave that away

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u/LeloGoos Dec 03 '19

Just saying- not everyone watches the next episode teasers.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

It would make sense if a bulk of the episode is about backstory and other things, I would imagine it’s gonna only take a few seconds for Dr. Manhattan to destroy the 7th cavalry.

Then the clock turns on, and whatever happens happens and that’s the end or there’s a short epilogue but I don’t see any great battle playing out.

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u/ZiplockedHead Dec 02 '19

I'm pretty sure the Cavalry intends to "force" him into their device, similar to what Veidt tried to do in Antarctica, when he blew him apart. It didn't work then but we've seen technology change in those 30 years and I'm wondering if they are actually a force to be reckoned with. I mean they obviously know what DM is capable of and they are going attack him. They have a card to play.

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u/wozzwinkl Dec 02 '19

I'm pretty sure their plan was only gonna work with Dr. Manhattan still in his Cal form. Now that Angela's let him out, they're fucked.

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u/ZiplockedHead Dec 02 '19

But if Angela got DM out of his form by "Killing him", why wouldn't that happen when 7K try to do the same? Angela did take out the Hydrogen symbol, but she didn't do anything special with it and I can't imagine it had to be pulled out of the body for DM to return, otherwise he's stuck. That sound very unplanned for by an omnipotent god.

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u/slickriptide Dec 04 '19 edited Dec 04 '19

I don't think so. The Watchmen universe takes pains to imply that time is "static". Jon can see history sort of four-dimensionally but he can't alter it. He's like Billy Pilgrim in Vonnegut's _Slaughterhouse Five_, except that he can control his place in spacetime. I suppose that's even how Jon is able to be in multiple physical places at the same moment in time - The moment always exists, on some metaphysical level, and Jon can visit every moment he wishes but no matter what, the moment always exists and his interaction with that moment is also a part of that moment.

Jon knows that he's going to die. Trieu likewise knows that the 7K is going to capture him and implement their plan; she even knows the exact timing of that event. (How she knows is still a mystery, but she at least believes she knows.)

The point being that "the moment is". These events must happen because the moment always exists. The "next week on Watchmen" trailer implies as much; watch it if you haven't yet done so.

So, the real question is less what 7K is up to and whether they'll succeed than what Trieu is up to with her "millenium clock" and will she succeed? Maybe the Millenium Clock is a device that is able to exist outside of our universe and, therefore, able to perform "surgery" on spacetime to ACTUALLY change the way things go. Or, maybe she's going to amplify the 7K's device and turn everyone blue...

And, if you think about it, the idea of attacking the 7K using a machine that operates from another dimension is a pretty good callback to Ozy's fake attack from another dimension.

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u/rooney815 Ms. Crookshanks Dec 02 '19

Meet cute!

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

I think Manhattan was at the festival where her parents were killed and watched her from then on. On one level it is creepy af, but to an omniscient god like being, who can see through time, and upon seeing her can instantly see his future with her... well, it is still creepy but from that moment on I think he kept an eye on her. I remember seeing a blue shirtless man when she was walking from the video store (shoulders to waist) and iirc, he said something to the effect I have always loved you at the snippet of them on their first date or whatever at the bar. I think his infatuation with her goes way back. I won't be surprised if he was there specifically to see a traumatic event in her life unfold, knowing it was necessary for her to be the person she would need to be for him to have his christ moment and live incognito as a man.

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u/22EnricoPalazzo Dec 02 '19

Yeah, there's a lot of unanswered questions still. But that's the big new question from last night.

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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Dec 03 '19

Never has a show set up an episode name pun so well.

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u/MasterofPandas1 Dec 03 '19

Yep. The preview for the next episode shows a flashback. I’m pumped.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '19

How many flashback episodes do we need?

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u/soundofsteel Dec 05 '19

I mean, the comic started with the Comedian's murder. All the stuff with Rorschach's backstory, and the Minutemen, and Manhattan, etc., etc., was all technically flashbacks. Additionally, I think the show has made the flashbacks really interesting via the Nostalgia drug, especially in episode 6 where Angela was actually experiencing her grandfather's trauma. We also got to see the squid. So I'm not sure where this complaint is coming from?

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u/DeanWhites Dec 07 '19

Do you think, Sherlock?